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Post Post #3200 (ISO) » Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:24 am

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Post Post #3201 (ISO) » Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:32 am

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It's not about blame. It's about likelihood.

Sure there's a Drew/Roden chance where FL was the night 4 convert and FL pocketed Aureal with the flavor cop, but that's unlikely.

Aureal leans Dan, and there are very few mech setups where Aureal is evil.
JV favors Dan.
FL favors Dan.
Theta favors Dan (I think).

Roden hedges.
Hu is absent.
Thomlith (my other group scum suspect with Roden) is largely absent.

Dan just seems to be the play.
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Post Post #3202 (ISO) » Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:40 am

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In post 3196, ActionDan wrote:
In post 681, Doctor Drew wrote: Still prefer DV, will compromise on NK, not much interest in Titus
This is support for that from D1.

But Cakez did vote Titus too D1. Which I thought was critical. I wasn't there for when that went down so the timings of the votes and the risk of the NK and Titus wagons going through at any one moment are not obvious to me. I'll re-research it.
Oh right, Cakez. I did have to call him out to get him to vote Titus, but still yeah, he probably ignores it if he's traitor and she's groupscum. Guess I can scratch her off the nonFG list, leaving me with just Theta and Roden there. And Roden seems pretty tenuous with the Hu investigative stuff.
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Post Post #3203 (ISO) » Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:54 am

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In post 3202, Aureal wrote:
In post 3196, ActionDan wrote:
In post 681, Doctor Drew wrote: Still prefer DV, will compromise on NK, not much interest in Titus
This is support for that from D1.

But Cakez did vote Titus too D1. Which I thought was critical. I wasn't there for when that went down so the timings of the votes and the risk of the NK and Titus wagons going through at any one moment are not obvious to me. I'll re-research it.
Oh right, Cakez. I did have to call him out to get him to vote Titus, but still yeah, he probably ignores it if he's traitor and she's groupscum. Guess I can scratch her off the nonFG list, leaving me with just Theta and Roden there. And Roden seems pretty tenuous with the Hu investigative stuff.
Theta as group scum doesn't fake a guilty on Roden right here imo.
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Post Post #3204 (ISO) » Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:55 am

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In post 3201, Titus wrote: It's not about blame. It's about likelihood.

Sure there's a Drew/Roden chance where FL was the night 4 convert and FL pocketed Aureal with the flavor cop, but that's unlikely.

Aureal leans Dan, and there are very few mech setups where Aureal is evil.
JV favors Dan.
FL favors Dan.
Theta favors Dan (I think).

Roden hedges.
Hu is absent.
Thomlith (my other group scum suspect with Roden) is largely absent.

Dan just seems to be the play.
Yeah I don't think I'm leaning Dan anymore. Drew's feeling shady and lurky and Dan's trying to solve.

I will be grumpy if it's been my townreads all along :igmeou:
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Post Post #3205 (ISO) » Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:56 am

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You think scum are just going to be obvious wolves?
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Post Post #3206 (ISO) » Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:57 am

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Roden group scum auto forces both Hu and FL to be traitors based on their claims. It's unlikely.

With FL JV and Titus voting me I'm going to proceed with assuming 2 of 3 are scum. JV is all but admitting to that so I'll start there. And because Drew is scum Titus is only town if JV was the N4 convert due to her claimed D3 result. Also unlikely, as that in turn implies Theta is scum since Roden can't be the recruit in this scenario forcing him to be group scum forcing FL and Hu to he traitors and suddenly that's a contradiction with too many traitors. To keep Titus as town the team has to be Drew, Jv, Theta, FL.

Otherwise it's Drew, Titus, Jv, (1 of theta/roden).

And this is all assuming we don't see Drew's vote followed by Hu's followed by Roden/Theta which I'm waiting for.
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Post Post #3207 (ISO) » Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:58 am

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In post 3203, Titus wrote:
In post 3202, Aureal wrote:
In post 3196, ActionDan wrote:
In post 681, Doctor Drew wrote: Still prefer DV, will compromise on NK, not much interest in Titus
This is support for that from D1.

But Cakez did vote Titus too D1. Which I thought was critical. I wasn't there for when that went down so the timings of the votes and the risk of the NK and Titus wagons going through at any one moment are not obvious to me. I'll re-research it.
Oh right, Cakez. I did have to call him out to get him to vote Titus, but still yeah, he probably ignores it if he's traitor and she's groupscum. Guess I can scratch her off the nonFG list, leaving me with just Theta and Roden there. And Roden seems pretty tenuous with the Hu investigative stuff.
Theta as group scum doesn't fake a guilty on Roden right here imo.
Then who?? Thom and JV roles would be pretty wtf as groupscum. Although outguessing the mod doesn't always work great.
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Post Post #3208 (ISO) » Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:04 am

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In post 3207, Aureal wrote:
In post 3203, Titus wrote:
In post 3202, Aureal wrote:
In post 3196, ActionDan wrote:
In post 681, Doctor Drew wrote: Still prefer DV, will compromise on NK, not much interest in Titus
This is support for that from D1.

But Cakez did vote Titus too D1. Which I thought was critical. I wasn't there for when that went down so the timings of the votes and the risk of the NK and Titus wagons going through at any one moment are not obvious to me. I'll re-research it.
Oh right, Cakez. I did have to call him out to get him to vote Titus, but still yeah, he probably ignores it if he's traitor and she's groupscum. Guess I can scratch her off the nonFG list, leaving me with just Theta and Roden there. And Roden seems pretty tenuous with the Hu investigative stuff.
Theta as group scum doesn't fake a guilty on Roden right here imo.
Then who?? Thom and JV roles would be pretty wtf as groupscum. Although outguessing the mod doesn't always work great.
Thom's role interrupts everyone's. Why is that inherently town?
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Post Post #3209 (ISO) » Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:07 am

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No it does not. It stops all shared PT actions (aka conversions) and apparently singularly effects your ability to get sleep. Aside from locking PTs and creating the rec room it doesn't do anything else.
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Post Post #3210 (ISO) » Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:09 am

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In post 3209, ActionDan wrote: No it does not. It stops all shared PT actions (aka conversions) and apparently singularly effects your ability to get sleep. Aside from locking PTs and creating the rec room it doesn't do anything else.
And if it was timed on an even night without telling folks?
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Post Post #3211 (ISO) » Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:11 am

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Then as far as I know they would still get results.
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Post Post #3212 (ISO) » Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:13 am

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In post 3211, ActionDan wrote: Then as far as I know they would still get results.
Why would that be the case?
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Post Post #3213 (ISO) » Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:14 am

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If we suppose scum can't convert during the dance party, then we have to assume town can't act as well.
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Post Post #3214 (ISO) » Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:16 am

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Why must we assume that?
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Post Post #3215 (ISO) » Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:18 am

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In post 3214, ActionDan wrote: Why must we assume that?
Because a) my ability was blocked and b) an ability that only blocked conversions seems off and unfair.
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Post Post #3216 (ISO) » Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:21 am

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It's strong yes, and mostly brainless, but conversions are very strong on their own. I don't think its unfair
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Post Post #3217 (ISO) » Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:23 am

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And again, if it was a lie, outside of a conversion being blocked some other way this game, this game would be over right now
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Post Post #3218 (ISO) » Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:25 am

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I got night 3 results, Thom is not a global roleblocker.
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Post Post #3219 (ISO) » Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:27 am

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Probably just Roden then but my gut still screams Thom.
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Post Post #3220 (ISO) » Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:28 am

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The only way that's a scum role is if the conversion blocking is just a lie and they failed a recruit somewhere.
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Post Post #3221 (ISO) » Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:31 am

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Titus, I don't know why you're not suspecting me anymore here. Drew/Aureal should be totally viable from your pov?
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Post Post #3222 (ISO) » Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:31 am

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In post 3220, Aureal wrote: The only way that's a scum role is if the conversion blocking is just a lie and they failed a recruit somewhere.
My biggest nag is where is Thom. The only memorable thing he's done is try to pit me against FL.
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Post Post #3223 (ISO) » Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:32 am

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In post 3221, Aureal wrote: Titus, I don't know why you're not suspecting me anymore here. Drew/Aureal should be totally viable from your pov?
Viable. I think so but it requires FL to be wrong twice or a convert I don't have room for.
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Post Post #3224 (ISO) » Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:03 am

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In post 3221, Aureal wrote: Titus, I don't know why you're not suspecting me anymore here. Drew/Aureal should be totally viable from your pov?
Wait half a day say and this will be disproven if I live
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