Micro Theme 1098 — PicoBlitz [ENDGAME]

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Votecount 2-II (Unchanged)

With 3 alive, it takes 2 to hammer.

votes

Not Voting (3):

Enchant, JacksonVirgo, Aureal

notes

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[Aureal]

Hmmm

Enchant and Jackson, how familar are you with each other? Do you have a decent amount of experience with each other or at least theur reputation?I thought Jackson had just started playing again very recently but looking a little closer, maybe that was a wrong impression.

[Enchant]

Jackson attacks me every game.

[JacksonVirgo]

I was about to sleep but then right as I was drifting off I remember this game existed and how short the deadline was so here I am

[JacksonVirgo]

Probably shouldn't presume you could lie about claiming fruits.


... Or mafia knew i am informed from start.

oh lord, I'm glad the Normal Idea thread is closed or else someone would totally go put a role that's Informed about a role that's Informed about a role that's Informed about a role that's Informed about a role that's Informed about a role...

This isn't the same thing but I once ran a normal game where there was a macho cop-enabler miller that was informed the scum knew they existed. So if they claimed, bye bye cop. If they didn't claim, they risk getting red-checked. Hilarious stuff

[JacksonVirgo]

No, I'm not and even if I were I don't know the wolves plans I can only assume based on what I know and what I know insinuates FL planned to go down after I had called him out for his claim.

Well yeah I think you are. You're saying "look, I totally am the one who screwed up Leaf by calling out his fakeclaim so I'm not scum! But also, if you don't believe that, I'm still not scum because the claim was intended to be caught out as fake and I'm not good enough at wolf to dare plan to torpedo Leaf!"

I have issues with this.

I'm saying that from that point of being called out, the focus was to shift to using them as a scapegoat. I never said that they planned that from the start

So you think you're the only one who realized the claim was fake right away?! Just because you conveniently happened to be online at just the right moment and managed to respond faster? I also saw that it was impossible, I just didn't react as fast or make a big point of explaining details of the obvious. So this is really not sitting right with me.

I'm saying that I called it out, and that scum probably spoke about it or mentioned it prior to claiming. I don't care who else could have called it out that is not my point.

????

You think that the wolves talked about the claim beforehand? That would mean that they either didn't know the role was impossible, or

knowingly

had Leaf claim an

obviously

fake role and incur the expected scumreads. I think the three of us would all veto that claim unless making Leaf a target was

the point

- Drew was the only one who might not care enough about the mech to not realize that it was impossible. And we can obviously see now that Drew/Leaf was not the scumteam.

So then, why would the wolves agree to have Leaf draw such heat? He wasn't actually being scumread until then, we were just messing around for lulz and reactions (as far as I was concerned- when I voted I had certainly intended to unvote before the 12 hours were up). I've been struggling with this one, but your proclamations about how

you

got Leaf to crack and openwolf are certainly giving some shape to my thoughts. I need to look more at what you've been up to, I basically just had you in my blind spot all day one because the others were being actively suspicious enough and you worked with me.

And there's also the possibility that they didn't talk about the claim and Leaf just acted on impulse. Which to me sounds like Leaf was genuinely annoyed at the pressure and decided to screw around. Which would indicate that he actually

felt

pressure, which doesn't make much sense but even less if one of the votes on him is his team-mate. Which... would implicate Enchant, hence my still having some concern there. So I was surprised to see that you've pretty much been acting like Enchant is definitely town.

I would assume scum would talk about a claim beforehand, yes. You say that all three of you would, but that's just lip service I got no way of knowing if you would have or not and based on the assumption that scum wouldn't just spit out a claim with that complexity I feel there's a strong chance it was overlooked by both wolves.

[JacksonVirgo]

So Jackson successfully defuses the threat of a wagon on Leaf for the day here.

The logic was perfectly sound, and in fact was the correct move to make considering FL died anyway.

[Enchant]

You unironically want to say that town has 3 VTs in this game, and i am mafia fakeclaiming?

Bruh.

[JacksonVirgo]

If I was a wolf, I would have opted to push FL rather than some random as that would mean I could kill whoever I pleased

[JacksonVirgo]

You unironically want to say that town has 3 VTs in this game, and i am mafia fakeclaiming?

Bruh.

Who are you talking to?

[Enchant]

Both, why you are not voting each other alread.y

[JacksonVirgo]

And then he sees that Drew is making a bad push on me and decides to take my side. Leaf throws suspicion all over all of us but votes me. These actions basically set the day up as Drew vs. Aureal, where I'm reasonably likely to get hammered by Enchant being Enchant (Leaf even tries to bait him into it) or I end up voting Drew (whom I'd already expressed some suspicion of) and then Leaf gets to jump in with a sussy hammer.

What's the point you're making? You're stating things that happened but not why you think it means anything

[JacksonVirgo]

Both, why you are not voting each other alread.y

I'm a little apprehensive, two games just ended where I fucked up severely by jumping to conclusions

[Enchant]

Fuck this i am coinflipping then

[JacksonVirgo]

How the heck can Jackson be acting in 154 like he thinks I wouldn't act that way towards Leaf as a partner and then today it's a partnered link?!? This reeks of pocketing me and then pivoting once the plan to get me to vote Drew worked. And I've already touched on why the talking himself up for his 'serious push' comes off badly. He wants this credit so badly and it's sooooo stupid of a reason, it's like whaaaaaaat. The more he talks about it the more I feel like that's why we had the Leaf breakdown, to make Jackson look like a Serious Anti-Leaf Person as opposed to me.

Reads can evolve based on many different factors, especially given flipped information and my town-read on Enchant. What do I want credit from? I never said anything I meant more than just a throwout "hey this happened, what's ur thoughts on it". If ur referring to the calling out FL it's hard to have super in depth lines of reasoning without asking people things so I asked Enchant about it seeing if that could spark a conversation that benefitted me. They were scum-reading me at the time and I had no real basis to counter it without starting those conversations.

[JacksonVirgo]

Well if ur coinflipping, I just stop trying then

[Enchant]

I joked.

[JacksonVirgo]

Enchant and Jackson, how familar are you with each other? Do you have a decent amount of experience with each other or at least theur reputation?I thought Jackson had just started playing again very recently but looking a little closer, maybe that was a wrong impression.

Not too much, not too little. I reckon I've played like 6 games since coming back, could have that number way off.

[JacksonVirgo]

Jackson attacks me every game.

I really do it seems lmfao, you're super hard to read for me so I tend to just see that as being scummy

[JacksonVirgo]

Hmmm

Enchant and Jackson, how familar are you with each other? Do you have a decent amount of experience with each other or at least theur reputation?I thought Jackson had just started playing again very recently but looking a little closer, maybe that was a wrong impression.

Why?

[Enchant]

VOTE: Aureal

Eh.

[Enchant]

GG?

[JacksonVirgo]

This is me not hammering

[Enchant]

Yeah, good.

[Enchant]

Now you can hammer really.