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Post Post #750 (ISO) » Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:51 am

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In post 747, Klick wrote: I'm down to try something new but we'd likely need specifically ActionDan's explicit approval to make something like that happen and also have it land on Kira
ActionDan is currently voting Gimli so if you're convinced Gimli is town you can basically make that argument for every push ever and Hu Tao is very clearly a compromise lim that I do think scum is fine with and would be very surprised if it ands on Kira

Additionally, experience proves flashwagons are better than not and giving up because "what would a flashwagon achieve" sucks. For example in Open 902: Frienemies Blitz there were like a bunch of people who expressed willingness to flashwagon Black (who was scum) and then didn't because deadline and ended up on town instead.

Also you can always go back to voting Hu Tao or Gimli if there are not enough votes but you should at least TRY.

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Post Post #751 (ISO) » Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:52 am

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Vote Count


Official Vote Count 1.10Time is like sand.


ExecutionWith
10
votes in play, it takes
6
to execute someone.

Hu Tao
(4): Aureal, HighPrincessErinys, Klick, Little Will o' Wisp
Gimli
(2): ActionDan, Hu Tao
ActionDan
(1): Gimli
Klick
(1): Radical Rat
Little Will o' Wisp
(1): CUDDLENTIME

Not Voting
(1): Freedom

Deadline:
(expired on 2024-02-27 17:44:05).

Grace Period: No one can be hammered for (expired on 2024-02-18 17:44:05)


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Post Post #752 (ISO) » Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:52 am

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In post 738, CUDDLE TIME wrote:
In post 725, Aureal wrote:
In post 712, CUDDLE TIME wrote:
Then stop pocketing people and start working with me to solve.

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And this is pretty freaking rich from someone who was last seen throwing his hands up in the air in confusion and leaving things to be sorted by others. You suddenly seem desperate to do something other than what's happening.
I... Wha?

This has got to be the wildest accusation I've been accused of this game. Or actually since the start of the year probably.

I did throw my hands in the air BECAUSE no one I was townreading seemed remotely interested in working with me and they all just did their own thing, namely pushing other people I was townreading and providing very little rationale for that and refusing to consolidate etc.

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Post Post #753 (ISO) » Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:53 am

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In post 750, CUDDLE TIME wrote:
In post 747, Klick wrote: I'm down to try something new but we'd likely need specifically ActionDan's explicit approval to make something like that happen and also have it land on Kira
ActionDan is currently voting Gimli so if you're convinced Gimli is town you can basically make that argument for every push ever and Hu Tao is very clearly a compromise lim that I do think scum is fine with and would be very surprised if it ands on Kira

Additionally, experience proves flashwagons are better than not and giving up because "what would a flashwagon achieve" sucks. For example in Open 902: Frienemies Blitz there were like a bunch of people who expressed willingness to flashwagon Black (who was scum) and then didn't because deadline and ended up on town instead.

Also you can always go back to voting Hu Tao or Gimli if there are not enough votes but you should at least TRY.

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The difference between this and Open 902 and who the hell is willing to flash Willow in the first place?
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Post Post #754 (ISO) » Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:53 am

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In post 749, Klick wrote: I thought she wasn't a bad shot in the dark at Kira?
I think Hu Tao is a very good scum player and the quality of her posting has been pretty bad and while this could get into WIFOM or something I just don't think Kira!Tao plays like this and I also don't really see anyone defending her or even looking for a counterwagon except me, and I am town.

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Post Post #755 (ISO) » Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:53 am

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I agree that in concept this vote is most likely to land on scum with a flashwagon. But if we were going to flashwagon, I'd prefer the target at least be ActionDan-approved to be achievable
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Post Post #756 (ISO) » Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:53 am

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There is like zero pre-existing appetite for a Willow wagon let alone a close-to-deadline Willow flashwagon.
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Post Post #757 (ISO) » Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:54 am

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VOTE: Little Will o' Wisp
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Post Post #758 (ISO) » Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:54 am

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gah damn
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Post Post #759 (ISO) » Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:55 am

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In post 752, Aureal wrote:
In post 738, CUDDLE TIME wrote:
In post 725, Aureal wrote:
In post 712, CUDDLE TIME wrote:
Then stop pocketing people and start working with me to solve.

- Dragon
And this is pretty freaking rich from someone who was last seen throwing his hands up in the air in confusion and leaving things to be sorted by others. You suddenly seem desperate to do something other than what's happening.
I... Wha?

This has got to be the wildest accusation I've been accused of this game. Or actually since the start of the year probably.

I did throw my hands in the air BECAUSE no one I was townreading seemed remotely interested in working with me and they all just did their own thing, namely pushing other people I was townreading and providing very little rationale for that and refusing to consolidate etc.

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Cool so you think that's not what
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I'm really annoyed with this approach from you Aureal because I don't think you've ever been correct in scumreading me for this kind of behavior and you should know better than having this change your read of my slot

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Post Post #760 (ISO) » Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:56 am

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In post 755, Klick wrote: I agree that in concept this vote is most likely to land on scum with a flashwagon. But if we were going to flashwagon, I'd prefer the target at least be ActionDan-approved to be achievable
ActionDan is scumreading your townreads so like, good luck?

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Post Post #761 (ISO) » Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:57 am

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In post 760, CUDDLE TIME wrote:
In post 755, Klick wrote: I agree that in concept this vote is most likely to land on scum with a flashwagon. But if we were going to flashwagon, I'd prefer the target at least be ActionDan-approved to be achievable
ActionDan is scumreading your townreads so like, good luck?

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It's more likely that I'm wrong in my reads than that we'll get a good flashwagon elimination without ActionDan on-board
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Post Post #762 (ISO) » Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:57 am

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In post 753, HighPrincessErinys wrote: The difference between this and Open 902 and who the hell is willing to flash Willow in the first place?
In post 756, HighPrincessErinys wrote: There is like zero pre-existing appetite for a Willow wagon let alone a close-to-deadline Willow flashwagon.
Very perceptive of you
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Post Post #763 (ISO) » Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:58 am

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In post 762, CUDDLE TIME wrote:
In post 753, HighPrincessErinys wrote: The difference between this and Open 902 and who the hell is willing to flash Willow in the first place?
In post 756, HighPrincessErinys wrote: There is like zero pre-existing appetite for a Willow wagon let alone a close-to-deadline Willow flashwagon.
Very perceptive of you
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Post Post #764 (ISO) » Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:59 am

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In post 761, Klick wrote: It's more likely that I'm wrong in my reads than that we'll get a good flashwagon elimination without ActionDan on-board
I'll consolidate on anyone except you if I MUST, but I'd rather at least try to flashwagon the PoE and go back to voting whoever Dan wants if it fails.

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Post Post #765 (ISO) » Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:00 am

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Also I will be definitely sleeping before the deadline so I'm banking on Thomith/Black/Adorable moving the vote if needed.
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Post Post #766 (ISO) » Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:02 am

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To make Dragon's point more explicit: the wagons that don't have an appetite are paradoxically the ones that are more likely to contain Kira

If ActionDan specifically is on-board with that concept on a theoretical level then I see a world where we can make a flashwagon work

If not we probably need to just aim for most likely scum of any variety between Gimli and Hu
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Post Post #767 (ISO) » Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:03 am

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In post 758, HighPrincessErinys wrote: gah damn
Wanna join in?

Also
In post 741, Gimli wrote:
Wanna join in too?

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Post Post #768 (ISO) » Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:04 am

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uhgghhh FINE if we're an hour and a half away from deadline and noone wants HT
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Post Post #769 (ISO) » Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:04 am

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VOTE: Little Will o' Wisp
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Post Post #770 (ISO) » Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:12 am

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In post 736, Gimli wrote: if we're flipping hu tao then who are his followers?

its not in (hpe, aureal, klick) cause they're pushing for it.

it had to be in (rr, cuddle, wisp, freedom) at first. I'll try to see if this checks out but I'm also gonna take my few minutes of healthy non painful brain to go grocery shopping, so idk how much of that I could do.

my wagon is cleaner since the now confirmed town is pushing for it, I am not a power role so I think taking me down is reasonable. when my flip does not end the game though, you should note that klick is clear and you should follow his instincts

anyway I'll try to work something out
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Post Post #771 (ISO) » Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:12 am

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In post 737, Klick wrote: At several points I think Gimli's goals have basically been to think through the game and find what seems to him like a plausible solution
It feels natural
Why am I scum?
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Post Post #772 (ISO) » Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:13 am

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In post 743, Aureal wrote:
In post 718, Hu Tao wrote: Aureal leading the wagon on me because they know I'm the only one that sees them for the scum they are this game. I'm also sus on HPE because of that whole trying to get rid of Dan yesterday when Kira will have to do it regardless of alignment of Dan
Yup that's definitely it.

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Post Post #773 (ISO) » Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:14 am

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In post 749, Klick wrote: I thought she wasn't a bad shot in the dark at Kira?
Klick might be a bit sus
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Post Post #774 (ISO) » Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:15 am

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Oh wisp is tbone. I'm ok with that

VOTE: wisp

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