Mini Theme 2330 - A Questionable Almost-Normal Game - Postgame

[DkKoba]

the thing about finding people town is that no one in the history of mafia has randed mafia and only "slipped" in a single specific interaction or way, its a trackable pattern you can point to at multiple points, not just "this person did this 1 thing and that makes them mafia"

yes im subtly implying things about whats going on currently, but also would like to break down pushes against who i consider in most worlds a likely n1 kill and thus a waste of threadspace to push lol

[JacksonVirgo]

ok

[Black]

If I had a second vote, it would be on Ketchup

You have 2 extra votes, they're called teammates.

Either JV is tunneling town or scum. This "jump" so quick is likely panic.

Why would scum!JV be panicking here?

[ketchup777]

It feels like you're attacking small inconsistencies in specifically my posts, and I think you're tunneling. Whether that's scum or bad play I'm not sure, but between the traitor!Jackson theory and the mafia!Jackson+Ranger theories you can stay at the top for now.

It should feel like I'm doing that, because I am. I am seeing discrepancies in your play and I am calling them out.

I'm not tunnelled, I scum-read you and there's a massive difference.

I've seen many posts of yours that I would deem townie purely by tone but that does not outweigh the reasons I'm scum-reading you by any degree so I'm not harping on about them.

In your head, you cannot seem to see if my play is townie or scummy.

So it's essentially NAI in your head and

yet I'm in your top wolf pile because of random tinfoil theories you have with me and other slots?

Assuming a traitor before anything else

and then throwing me in a scum pool because of it. Right around the time people started pivoting to throwing my name out (and Blacks for that matter), and after you said you had nothing so you seem to be wanting to scum-read me but have nothing because you need to stay consistent and this is what you come up with. It doesn't feel like a genuine thought and

this is a consistent behaviour with you this game.

Being in my 'top wolf pile' shouldn't be too scary. You've seen how wrong I was on some people in the early days last time.

Your playstyle is similar to last time, but I have probably been biased by your being on me. The fact that I am town is info to me that I will use to help base my reads, but I'll try to avoid saying it as much this game

Ok, response attempt 2.

Whether you scumread me or whether you're mafia, you're tunneling me. If you think it's justified, sure you do you (you're wrong tho). But you can't deny you're tunneling me.

Feels like you've got one theory (I'm mafia) and morphing everything to it. I think confbiasing is the appropriate term?

This is true. But the 'unsorted' category was more of a 'not a clue' category, so I have slightly more reasons to put you as mafia than as town, hence the 'top suspects' list which was maybe a bit of a misnomer.

Last time I was only able to really catch OutWorldEr by the fact that he had to be scum in every possible scenario. Obviously there are wayyyyy too many other possible scenarios right now, but, yes, I have 2 theories right now and you're scum in both of them. That's more than 'unsorted'.

I stole the idea off somebody else. Why not go after them?

I thought you said lots of my posts had been townie by tone...(Yes this one's a weak point on my end)

pedit: didn't read any of the posts made after writing this

[Hu Tao]

But this python

wdym

Hu said Lap was town reading her last few games, but Lap(In the JOAT game) targeted Hu because he thought she was scummy

I don't think Lap is scum here

He said I was towny day 1. But he could have been lying. But I also don't think someone would parity cop a scum read

[ketchup777]

But this python

wdym

Hu said Lap was town reading her last few games, but Lap(In the JOAT game) targeted Hu because he thought she was scummy

I don't think Lap is scum here

He said I was towny day 1. But he could have been lying. But I also don't think someone would parity cop a scum read

Why wouldn't they parity cop a scum read

[DkKoba]

If I had a second vote, it would be on Ketchup

You have 2 extra votes, they're called teammates.

Either JV is tunneling town or scum. This "jump" so quick is likely panic.

Why would scum!JV be panicking here?

there's been some level of suspicion tossed around for their approach so far from a few people

I wouldn't call it panicking though but rather just logical inconsistency.

do you think what they're saying about ketchup is reasonable? Do you think what I'm saying wrt ketchups overall play makes ketchup town, or what?

[Hu Tao]

also are we still RVS shitposting or is it tryhard time? want to check before I reread the thread

I think you're scum so far. You seem different even in the limited posts

also are we still RVS shitposting or is it tryhard time? want to check before I reread the thread

I think you're scum so far. You seem different even in the limited posts

Yeah, its because I'm not socialist posting like last day 1. You seem townier than last few games tho

Not liking this response from Laplacian. It feels like he could be trying to get her off of him by saying she's townie

Agreed! I feel the same way

[ketchup777]

the thing about finding people town is that no one in the history of mafia has randed mafia and only "slipped" in a single specific interaction or way, its a trackable pattern you can point to at multiple points, not just "this person did this 1 thing and that makes them mafia"

yes im subtly implying things about whats going on currently, but also would like to break down pushes

against who i consider in most worlds a likely n1 kill

and thus a waste of threadspace to push lol

I don't wanna dieeee ):

[DkKoba]

ok i just had a bit of a revelation. still think ranger is a good vote atm but lol rereading something with town python and town LG in mind after I had changed my mind on those 2 slots was pretty interesting implications for someone elses alignment

[DkKoba]

the thing about finding people town is that no one in the history of mafia has randed mafia and only "slipped" in a single specific interaction or way, its a trackable pattern you can point to at multiple points, not just "this person did this 1 thing and that makes them mafia"

yes im subtly implying things about whats going on currently, but also would like to break down pushes

against who i consider in most worlds a likely n1 kill

and thus a waste of threadspace to push lol

I don't wanna dieeee ):

too bad its for the good of the people (im the people)

[Hu Tao]

VOTE: Koba

Just to get it out of my system lol

nice try but i claim uncc miller VOTE: usespython

koba making this joke in a way that lets people laugh it off as a joke but would get a miller to say something feels kinda bad

no thats a lie you had literally been one of the few to discredit me shortly after the miller claim

VOTE: Koba

It's literally a page 1 vibecheck, feels like you're twisting yourself into circles to scumread us

I think voting the Miller is probably not the play

[ketchup777]

ok i just had a bit of a revelation. still think ranger is a good vote atm but lol rereading something with town python and town LG in mind after I had changed my mind on those 2 slots was pretty interesting implications for someone elses alignment

ooooh sounds good

[Hu Tao]

Could he be lying? Maybe. But I've never seen a fake Miller claim so far when it's been that early

[JacksonVirgo]

It feels like you're attacking small inconsistencies in specifically my posts, and I think you're tunneling. Whether that's scum or bad play I'm not sure, but between the traitor!Jackson theory and the mafia!Jackson+Ranger theories you can stay at the top for now.

It should feel like I'm doing that, because I am. I am seeing discrepancies in your play and I am calling them out.

I'm not tunnelled, I scum-read you and there's a massive difference.

I've seen many posts of yours that I would deem townie purely by tone but that does not outweigh the reasons I'm scum-reading you by any degree so I'm not harping on about them.

In your head, you cannot seem to see if my play is townie or scummy.

So it's essentially NAI in your head and

yet I'm in your top wolf pile because of random tinfoil theories you have with me and other slots?

Assuming a traitor before anything else

and then throwing me in a scum pool because of it. Right around the time people started pivoting to throwing my name out (and Blacks for that matter), and after you said you had nothing so you seem to be wanting to scum-read me but have nothing because you need to stay consistent and this is what you come up with. It doesn't feel like a genuine thought and

this is a consistent behaviour with you this game.

Being in my 'top wolf pile' shouldn't be too scary. You've seen how wrong I was on some people in the early days last time.

Your playstyle is similar to last time, but I have probably been biased by your being on me. The fact that I am town is info to me that I will use to help base my reads, but I'll try to avoid saying it as much this game

Ok, response attempt 2.

Whether you scumread me or whether you're mafia, you're tunneling me. If you think it's justified, sure you do you (you're wrong tho). But you can't deny you're tunneling me.

Feels like you've got one theory (I'm mafia) and morphing everything to it. I think confbiasing is the appropriate term?

This is true. But the 'unsorted' category was more of a 'not a clue' category, so I have slightly more reasons to put you as mafia than as town, hence the 'top suspects' list which was maybe a bit of a misnomer.

Last time I was only able to really catch OutWorldEr by the fact that he had to be scum in every possible scenario. Obviously there are wayyyyy too many other possible scenarios right now, but, yes, I have 2 theories right now and you're scum in both of them. That's more than 'unsorted'.

I stole the idea off somebody else. Why not go after them?

I thought you said lots of my posts had been townie by tone...(Yes this one's a weak point on my end)

pedit: didn't read any of the posts made after writing this

What do you consider the difference? It's easy to label something as a tunnel when you don't like it. Do that for me.

I've been trying to sort you, seeing scummy things from you that outweight the townie things and thus came to the conclusion you're a wolf. Conf-biasing would be the term if I were conf-biasing which I am not doing, the game is still fresh and I'm making my arguments only for you to immediately try and discount them by labelling them as a tunnel or conf-bias instead of actually acknowledging them.

I will come back to this

Give me your whole scum tier, in order and with reasoning for each even if massively simplified.

Because I'm talking about YOUR reads dude, I don't care who came up with them. You're utilising them to the highest degree

I did because it's true, what does that have to do with what I said there?

[DkKoba]

But this python

wdym

Hu said Lap was town reading her last few games, but Lap(In the JOAT game) targeted Hu because he thought she was scummy

I don't think Lap is scum here

He said I was towny day 1. But he could have been lying. But I also don't think someone would parity cop a scum read

Why wouldn't they parity cop a scum read

if i understand correctly, one parity cops someone they think will die night 1 so it turns into a regular cop after that, or at least has a strong belief if it turns up with "same alignment" it is likely to be both town. so yes, one prefers to target a town first with it.

[JacksonVirgo]

If I had a second vote, it would be on Ketchup

You have 2 extra votes, they're called teammates.

Either JV is tunneling town or scum. This "jump" so quick is likely panic.

Why would scum!JV be panicking here?

there's been some level of suspicion tossed around for their approach so far from a few people

I wouldn't call it panicking though but rather just logical inconsistency.

do you think what they're saying about ketchup is reasonable? Do you think what I'm saying wrt ketchups overall play makes ketchup town, or what?

I'm barely being pressured lmfao, if you think this is going to break me then you're insulting my skill

[Hu Tao]

If I had a second vote, it would be on Ketchup

You're tunneling on the wrong person again. I promise.

[ketchup777]

the thing about finding people town is that no one in the history of mafia has randed mafia and only "slipped" in a single specific interaction or way, its a trackable pattern you can point to at multiple points, not just "this person did this 1 thing and that makes them mafia"

yes im subtly implying things about whats going on currently, but also would like to break down pushes

against who i consider in most worlds a likely n1 kill

and thus a waste of threadspace to push lol

I don't wanna dieeee ):

too bad its for the good of the people (im the people)

lucky i got 7-shot bulletproof right

[JacksonVirgo]

What part of what I'm doing is even remotely inconsistent? What kind of asspull is that

[Hu Tao]

If I had a second vote, it would be on Ketchup

You have 2 extra votes, they're called teammates.

BANGER POST

[DkKoba]

Could he be lying? Maybe. But I've never seen a fake Miller claim so far when it's been that early

i have a special wheel of fakeclaims to make during d1 in normal setups to make sure to add variance to play and add plausibility so who knows...maybe i did fake it. heheh :3 but really i am trueclaiming here, since it is important setup info due to the gimmick. (but it is within my meta to claim negative utility as either scum or town while not having it)

[ketchup777]

If I had a second vote, it would be on Ketchup

You have 2 extra votes, they're called teammates.

BANGER POST

THANK YOU

[Hu Tao]

But this python

wdym

Hu said Lap was town reading her last few games, but Lap(In the JOAT game) targeted Hu because he thought she was scummy

I don't think Lap is scum here

He said I was towny day 1. But he could have been lying. But I also don't think someone would parity cop a scum read

Why wouldn't they parity cop a scum read

Cause it was 3 people. I'd assume you'd go for all 3 town. But I could be wrong. I've never been one before

[ketchup777]

But this python

wdym

Hu said Lap was town reading her last few games, but Lap(In the JOAT game) targeted Hu because he thought she was scummy

I don't think Lap is scum here

He said I was towny day 1. But he could have been lying. But I also don't think someone would parity cop a scum read

Why wouldn't they parity cop a scum read

Cause it was 3 people. I'd assume you'd go for all 3 town. But I could be wrong. I've never been one before

Ahh okok i'm with you