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Post Post #1250 (ISO) » Mon Mar 04, 2024 8:48 am

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Also
V/LA until the 13th, we should be able to post during that time except for the 5th and 13th
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Post Post #1251 (ISO) » Mon Mar 04, 2024 8:54 am

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In post 1249, usesPython wrote:
In post 1248, JacksonVirgo wrote: I doubt it's truly a Ganski/Ranger/PC solve but it sure feels like it
Sometimes it really is that easy

VOTE: PC
Also there is no chance that I as scum(unless you are my buddy) would claim an inno on you, the person who tends to read me the best here.
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Post Post #1252 (ISO) » Mon Mar 04, 2024 8:56 am

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In post 1245, usesPython wrote:Ranger our problem with you this game is that we can't track your progression on a few key players. How is Hu Tao's early game different enough from her later posting to go from vibing scummiest to vibing genuine and town? Why is PC town?
Political Clout feels identical to the game we just played where he was town. Additionally, despite his take being wrong, we genuinely believe he thinks it’s true, which would spew him town.

Hu Tao's early game had a more stilted forced feeling; we thought she was trying too hard. Her later posts felt more natural. I saw more light-hearted content and a sense of casual solving. Not strongly enough to lock her as town; strong enough to not push her. On D2, I just haven’t felt she’s shown the trait I’m looking for; scum who knew about the cop-heavy nature of the game. It’s far from impossible to mask said trait, or for me to miss it, yet I get neutral to positive vibes from what I’ve seen.

Why ask this now rather than D1?
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Post Post #1253 (ISO) » Mon Mar 04, 2024 8:59 am

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In post 1246, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 1242, Ranger wrote:yet gut pings as possibly not uninformed Cop.
Clarify this please
With the Cop reveal D2, we now know that there’s presumably 1-3 Godfathers among a slough of Cops.

Every Town Cop on D1 believed they were the only cop. As Uninformed, they didn’t know.

Every scum on D1 knew. On D1, they would have to fake believing they are the only Cop.

Not-Uninformed-Cop is thus the sign of scum.
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Post Post #1254 (ISO) » Mon Mar 04, 2024 9:02 am

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I fail to see how that answers my question
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Post Post #1255 (ISO) » Mon Mar 04, 2024 9:02 am

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For everybody you're calling likely informed, can you elaborate on
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Post Post #1256 (ISO) » Mon Mar 04, 2024 9:12 am

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In post 1224, Ranger wrote: VOTE: Titus
Gut.
I believe a town-Titus would handle my slot nearly identically to how Titus did if planning to investigate me. A Ranger N1 copcheck fits her mindset perfectly.

However, pending review, my mental memory of Titus's D1 has a slight mistake from a pre-planned scum narrative to mimic her townplay.

A scum-Titus would know she would need to mimic her town-cop mindset and would be playing attempting to mimic it.

I believe she made a slight mistake, and did something she wouldn’t have if actually town.

It’s weak, and she could just be a cop. I want to place the vote for now, pending review and investigation.
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Post Post #1257 (ISO) » Mon Mar 04, 2024 9:18 am

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In post 1252, Ranger wrote: Why ask this now rather than D1?
Lap got quickhammered, why do you think?
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Post Post #1258 (ISO) » Mon Mar 04, 2024 9:20 am

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And you've already explained Hu Tao before I think we just can't see the change in vibes in those posts which is our issue cause you're normally decently trackable even when we disagree
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Post Post #1259 (ISO) » Mon Mar 04, 2024 9:21 am

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In post 1242, Ranger wrote: Hipgun firing a team of
{Titus, Doctor Drew, +1}, with the final being among {usesPython, light_ganski, JacksonVirgo}.

Titus I believe slipped not being a genuine uninformed cop.
Doctor Drew, I believe slipped not being a genuine uninformed cop around his earlypage Koba Miller claim interactions.

The third is Gut guesswork.
UsesPython looks town to me yet they always do even when scum; objectively they
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JacksonVirgo has been town to me, yet gut pings as possibly not uninformed Cop.

Enchant is town.
Political Clout I’m fairly sure is town.

{Black, ketchup777, Hu Tao} are technically unsorted, yet vibe as genuine and town to me.

All of this is pending review.
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Post Post #1260 (ISO) » Mon Mar 04, 2024 9:21 am

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In post 1250, usesPython wrote: Also
V/LA until the 13th, we should be able to post during that time except for the
5th
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Post Post #1261 (ISO) » Mon Mar 04, 2024 9:37 am

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After consideration, I’ve moved Titus from gut scum off a possible scum indicator to definitive scum from a smoking gun.

Look here.
In post 1076, Titus wrote:Ranger's not scum.

There's got to be a catch. No fewer than 3 cops in a game. Wtf
Read every post prior on D2. It’s the page before.

Read every day two post,
closely
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Notice something?
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Post Post #1262 (ISO) » Mon Mar 04, 2024 9:39 am

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In post 1261, Ranger wrote:After consideration, I’ve moved Titus from gut scum off a possible scum indicator to definitive scum from a smoking gun.

Look here.
In post 1076, Titus wrote:Ranger's not scum.

There's got to be a catch. No fewer than 3 cops in a game. Wtf
Read every post prior on D2. It’s the page before.

Read every day two post,
closely
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Notice something?
I’ll let you figure it out for a bit.

It’s a separate giveaway to the prior, and builds on top of the other slip, yet this one is by far the bigger.

Think about it for a while.

Think what a town cop would be thinking.
With two flipped cops, yet no indication there’s more than three.

Can you see what I saw?
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Post Post #1263 (ISO) » Mon Mar 04, 2024 9:45 am

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In post 1254, JacksonVirgo wrote:I fail to see how that answers my question
Every actual town Cop believed they were the only Cop on D1.

The scum clearly knew there was more than one Cop in the game, because they clearly have pre-planned Cop fakeclaims heading into D2. They had information we didn’t.

This information would be reflected in play, because every town player plays differently as a Cop thinking they’re the only Cop compared to how they would knowing the truth.

I believe it will be easy to inadvertently spot the scum TMI, where their cover slipped, and instead of playing as if they’re the only Cop, they accidentally showed they knew there were multiple cops.

I found a gigantic sign from Titus of this, as well as suspected signs elsewhere.
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Post Post #1264 (ISO) » Mon Mar 04, 2024 9:48 am

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In post 1255, JacksonVirgo wrote:For everybody you're calling likely informed, can you elaborate on
Titus was originally her D1 Ranger read. I’ve since spotted something far more condemning.

Drew was Miller interactions with Koba.

You, usesPython, and light_ganski are similarly Maybes, along with your D2 opener potentially being primed for the reveal in advance.

Since I’m working off memory of interactions, all but the Titus tell need to be verified by reading back.
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Post Post #1265 (ISO) » Mon Mar 04, 2024 9:49 am

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In post 1257, usesPython wrote:
In post 1252, Ranger wrote:Why ask this now rather than D1?
Lap got quickhammered, why do you think?
Not until well after my last post. My reads were far from new at my last post, too. Why wait and not immediately ask?
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Post Post #1266 (ISO) » Mon Mar 04, 2024 9:50 am

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In post 1263, Ranger wrote:
In post 1254, JacksonVirgo wrote:I fail to see how that answers my question
Every actual town Cop believed they were the only Cop on D1.

The scum clearly knew there was more than one Cop in the game, because they clearly have pre-planned Cop fakeclaims heading into D2. They had information we didn’t.

This information would be reflected in play, because every town player plays differently as a Cop thinking they’re the only Cop compared to how they would knowing the truth.

I believe it will be easy to inadvertently spot the scum TMI, where their cover slipped, and instead of playing as if they’re the only Cop, they accidentally showed they knew there were multiple cops.

I found a gigantic sign from Titus of this, as well as suspected signs elsewhere.
Counterpoint: scum figured out everyone's a cop after Drew and JV vagueposting/Titus claimed 3rd cop and scum are just people with bad cop equity like PC
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Post Post #1267 (ISO) » Mon Mar 04, 2024 9:50 am

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In post 1265, Ranger wrote:
In post 1257, usesPython wrote:
In post 1252, Ranger wrote:Why ask this now rather than D1?
Lap got quickhammered, why do you think?
Not until well after my last post. My reads were far from new at my last post, too. Why wait and not immediately ask?
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Post Post #1268 (ISO) » Mon Mar 04, 2024 9:51 am

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As for the Titus reveal.

Perhaps ask this.

Why is it we know everyone is a Cop?

We only have two Cop flips.

Yet everyone has claimed Cop, and results.

What started it?
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Post Post #1269 (ISO) » Mon Mar 04, 2024 9:52 am

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light_ganski (2): JacksonVirgo, Black
Ranger (2): Enchant, Political Clout
Titus (1): Ranger
Political Clout (1): usesPython

Not Voting (5): Titus, light_ganski, Hu Tao, Doctor Drew, ketchup777

With 11 players alive, it takes 6 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-03-14 01:04:13).

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Post Post #1270 (ISO) » Mon Mar 04, 2024 9:53 am

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In post 1266, usesPython wrote:Counterpoint: scum figured out everyone's a cop after Drew and JV vagueposting/Titus claimed 3rd cop and scum are just people with bad cop equity like PC
The vagueposting gave no indication of a Cop setup.

Titus was explicitly claiming Cop.

Do you see the issue with an explicitly unprompted third Cop claim?
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Post Post #1271 (ISO) » Mon Mar 04, 2024 9:53 am

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In post 1260, usesPython wrote:
In post 1250, usesPython wrote: Also
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5th
6th and 13th
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Post Post #1272 (ISO) » Mon Mar 04, 2024 9:54 am

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In post 1268, Ranger wrote: What started it?
I started it, technically
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Post Post #1273 (ISO) » Mon Mar 04, 2024 9:55 am

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As soon as Koba flipped I knew what we were dealing with, it's obvious is it not? Drew caught it, as did I and Titus did too hence their claim.
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Post Post #1274 (ISO) » Mon Mar 04, 2024 9:56 am

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Ranger, I don't get at all what you're saying. The goal posts seem to be moving but I can't even track where they were. I am ill so maybe that's part of not seeing it.

Part of me think Ranger may be doing leaps to try and deflect from PC.
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