Mini 2331 - Touhou UPick: Anonymous Edition (Game Over)

[Clownpiece]

Am I just tunneled on this? Because I just keep seeing people who seem to at least be mildly competent at this game point to the exact same series of posts that I hate, and saying it makes Ichirin town.

[Tenshi Hinanawi]

I agree about this being a hard game. I’m thinking some flips will make this easier, but I doubt any of us expected this game to be a cakewalk.

[Ichirin Kumoi]

i wake up
i check the game
there is 10 new pages

[Tenshi Hinanawi]

Why don’t you like that series of posts, Clownpiece?

[Sanae Kochiya]

I’m not sure they are enough to keep up with the arms race, however you did pick out the few posts of Ichirins I did like. Which bodes well for your alignment, I think?

Fair enough, but it also makes me feel like there's enough here that I can't justify voting for the slot right now either.

I also just read Dai's ISO - I've been kinda vaguely skimming her posts as they've come in as I don't really understand most of the flavor context. Rereading now, actually understanding who she's talking about, and I'm not loving it

[Yuuka Kazami]

Not sure how I feel about Sanae reading into Ichirin and making assumptions about their state of mind.

Ichirin never said they were being tongue in cheek, sarcastic, or silly on purpose.

[Daiyousei]

as long as ichirin is going to continue to be a focal point of this game it would be nice if everyone could use the correct pronouns for hir tia <3

I like the reporter bit, maybe the one off commentary isn’t a good format for the game though.

The news is modernizing.

Yeahhhh, I was starting to hit that too. I'll have to think on how to, uh, keep up with the Times no pun intended.

sounds like this reporter needs to get some new roamin' in! lol ^_^

2) what makes a tenshi vote more interesting than a vote for me? maybe this is the self-loathing from generations of fairy hatred kicking in but i see myself as more likely to get exterminated than tenshi at this point in the game, so i don't understand why you'd vote tenshi ahead of me while thinking i'm more likely to be mafia

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Can you write me an expose on what makes Ichirin so town? Maybe I just struggle to see it as I haven’t read all about it.

This reporter has said all she needs say on the topic, and is quite frankly sort of over this game. Three different slots have now taken bad faith arguments with her and she's lost quite literally all motivation to try. This is an anonymous game which means users cannot rely on their repuation to be able to save themselves, which means a user

coming out and being aggressively mediocre in a game like this will frequently lead to their elimination.

This is not the tactic scum normally takes, nor does this reporter think Ichirin is giving anything but the straight truth in how she is behaving. That's all you're getting from me.

So umm, not saying i read your alignement based on that but are you implying you're being intentionally mediocre?

wow! this is by far the worst post i've seen all game! @_@ it contributes nothing to the hunting process and is obviously designed just to kick a clearly hurting player while they're down

in an iso vacuum i'm still not thrilled with aya's body of work but this post and sanae co-signing it in 598 makes me want absolutely nothing to do with voting aya for the foreseeable future and everything to do with exterminating the kagerou/sanae mafpair asap

2) I'm more interested in seeing people's stances on Tenshi than you, i feel like the general avoidance around this slot could come from a place of more well inserted scumbuddies uneasy with the idea of drawing the light to their weak like

Aya answer) Yeah this one is totally my bad, i completely misunderstood what the post was saying be assured that even if i was scum, i would not deliberately abuse / take advantage of someone being sad to try to "kick them" that's just like... straight up abusive

2) assuming your interest in seeing people's stances on tenshi is honest, what effort did you make to draw those stances out between the tenshi vote and the post i am responding to with this question? (this actually ties pretty neatly into what yuuka and piece have been saying about you lately)

a(yayaya)) on a personal/player level, i'm perfectly happy to grant the comment was a mistake that you regret in retrospect...but on a gameplay level, in the moment you thought that comment was a good idea, and i can only see a mafia-aligned player thinking in the moment that comment was a good idea because there were plenty of possible reactions that would be pro-mafia but basically no plausible reactions that would be pro-town

my expectation of a confused town response would to be to realize that aya very likely isn't saying those things about herself, try to figure out who she might be talking about instead, and ask for clarification, e.g. "just to be sure, is this post about

unknown

player x?"

in an iso vacuum i'm still not thrilled with aya's body of work but this post and sanae co-signing it in 598 makes me want absolutely nothing to do with voting aya for the foreseeable future and everything to do with exterminating the kagerou/sanae mafpair asap

Looking at the two posts, I felt like Sanae's 598 was a demonstrably different point, not just "co-signing" the original

mmm...in rereading it i guess it is pretty less bad, yeah v_v point withdrawn there

I’m curious of a lot of player’s thoughts on dai’s post.

me too! sadly we don't seem to be getting too many ;_;

newkoi saying they like kagerou's body of work gives me the sads in light of my post on the matter ;_; fairies are used to being ignored but that doesn't make it suck any less!

I read the post, I just don't fully (or mostly, actually) agree with your conclusions.

;_; why not? i tried so hard.......

also i was re-reading and like, why this reaction?

the question of "why not" was a genuine one because koishi is the first person i can remember publicly disagreeing with what i wrote in that post

the rest is roleplay @_@

[Sanae Kochiya]

Hmmmm? I feel like you can get that vibe pretty clearly from their posts?

[Sanae Kochiya]

*hir posts apologies

[Yuuka Kazami]

It was a private set of jokes that they were happy to keep behind their doors at best.

It shows pragmatism and duplicity. Ichi’d rather keep the misunderstanding going if that gets sir town read than clarify which posts of hir’s are jokes.

[Sanae Kochiya]

Gonna be honest I don't understand what you're saying

[Yuuka Kazami]

Gonna be honest I don't understand what you're saying

“Sie's pretty tongue-in-cheek about it, and aware that it might not look so good“

They never explicitly said this.
Or at least, I can’t find it. So you’re assuming their state of mind based on the context of the posts/what you think is reasonable, but Ichi did not go this route, they played it straight.

[Sanae Kochiya]

why would you be ok with dying if Larva explains what she was doing

It's a nice clear goalpost to pass before I get

unceremoniously mislimmed

D1.

I don't know how else to interpret this post other than 'tongue in cheek'

[Yuuka Kazami]

The assaulted one is the post you’re looking for in exhibit A for” this can’t possibly be real/serious”

[Sanae Kochiya]

I mean that too
We both agree that it can't be real/serious so I'm not sure what this conversation is about

[Yuuka Kazami]

They never said it was a joke.
So, I’m not taking it as one.

[Ichirin Kumoi]

Have you tried taking things a few degrees down the seriousness factor, Yuuka? Like perhaps "being a bit sarcastic/sardonic but still

cares

about the situation"?

[Clownpiece]

Why don’t you like that series of posts, Clownpiece?

The strength in which they threw themselves into questioning Eternity Larva felt performative.

It came immediately after they were being accused of not having content, and then they suddenly have discovered The Thing That Is So Important To Question That They Must Get The Answer Before They Die.

It felt reactionary to the lack of sorting accusations.

[Clownpiece]

I am indifferent to the "Assaulted." post.

[Ichirin Kumoi]

Why don’t you like that series of posts, Clownpiece?

The strength in which they threw themselves into questioning Eternity Larva felt performative.

It came immediately after they were being accused of not having content, and then they suddenly have discovered The Thing That Is So Important To Question That They Must Get The Answer Before They Die.

It felt reactionary to the lack of sorting accusations.

I am indifferent to the "Assaulted." post.

Actual Read.

Gonna be honest I don't understand what you're saying

“Sie's pretty tongue-in-cheek about it, and aware that it might not look so good“

They never explicitly said this.
Or at least, I can’t find it. So you’re assuming their state of mind based on the context of the posts/what you think is reasonable, but Ichi did not go this route, they played it straight.

The assaulted one is the post you’re looking for in exhibit A for” this can’t possibly be real/serious”

They never said it was a joke.
So, I’m not taking it as one.

Nitpicking.

[Sanae Kochiya]

They never said it was a joke.
So, I’m not taking it as one.

I think that people sometimes (often) make jokes without explicitly calling them out, I'm fine reading this as being tongue-in-cheek without hir explicitly saying it was meant in that vein

[Tenshi Hinanawi]

Why don’t you like that series of posts, Clownpiece?

The strength in which they threw themselves into questioning Eternity Larva felt performative.

It came immediately after they were being accused of not having content, and then they suddenly have discovered The Thing That Is So Important To Question That They Must Get The Answer Before They Die.

It felt reactionary to the lack of sorting accusations.

I am indifferent to the "Assaulted." post.

Actual Read.

Gonna be honest I don't understand what you're saying

“Sie's pretty tongue-in-cheek about it, and aware that it might not look so good“

They never explicitly said this.
Or at least, I can’t find it. So you’re assuming their state of mind based on the context of the posts/what you think is reasonable, but Ichi did not go this route, they played it straight.

The assaulted one is the post you’re looking for in exhibit A for” this can’t possibly be real/serious”

They never said it was a joke.
So, I’m not taking it as one.

Nitpicking.

And what does this say for their alignments?

[Sanae Kochiya]

Why don’t you like that series of posts, Clownpiece?

The strength in which they threw themselves into questioning Eternity Larva felt performative.

It came immediately after they were being accused of not having content, and then they suddenly have discovered The Thing That Is So Important To Question That They Must Get The Answer Before They Die.

It felt reactionary to the lack of sorting accusations.

It kind of did, but I also think that sie sort of seems aware of how it was likely to come across, and did it anyways. I do sort of think it was a read they cared about answering

[Yuuka Kazami]

Why don’t you like that series of posts, Clownpiece?

The strength in which they threw themselves into questioning Eternity Larva felt performative.

It came immediately after they were being accused of not having content, and then they suddenly have discovered The Thing That Is So Important To Question That They Must Get The Answer Before They Die.

It felt reactionary to the lack of sorting accusations.

I attribute Aya’s shift into traditional analysis and Kagerou’s read wall in the same vein, albeit they were more sensitive. Did you provide reasoning for why their response is different from those examples?

[Ichirin Kumoi]

Why don’t you like that series of posts, Clownpiece?

The strength in which they threw themselves into questioning Eternity Larva felt performative.

It came immediately after they were being accused of not having content, and then they suddenly have discovered The Thing That Is So Important To Question That They Must Get The Answer Before They Die.

It felt reactionary to the lack of sorting accusations.

I am indifferent to the "Assaulted." post.

Actual Read.

Gonna be honest I don't understand what you're saying

“Sie's pretty tongue-in-cheek about it, and aware that it might not look so good“

They never explicitly said this.
Or at least, I can’t find it. So you’re assuming their state of mind based on the context of the posts/what you think is reasonable, but Ichi did not go this route, they played it straight.

The assaulted one is the post you’re looking for in exhibit A for” this can’t possibly be real/serious”

They never said it was a joke.
So, I’m not taking it as one.

Nitpicking.

And what does this say for their alignments?

I'm not

entirely

sure about Yuuka because I don't want to confbias my way into a "Yuuka is just out to get me in particular for some reason" tinfoil or anything, but I think it's definitely atleast a little -Town. Clownpiece's thinking is just +Town though and I completely get thinking that way about my posts towards Larva.