Mini Theme 2330 - A Questionable Almost-Normal Game - Postgame

[Alianna]

3.02

Votecount 3.02

Ranger (2): light_ganski, Doctor Drew
light_ganski (2): Hu Tao, Political Clout

Not Voting (5): ketchup777, Black, Ranger, Enchant, usesPython

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-03-21 21:38:01).

Mod Notes: The combined mod ISO is here.

[Ranger]

{Enchant}
{ketchup777}
{Doctor Drew}
{Political Clout}
{Hu Tao}
{UsesPython}
{Black}
---
{Light_ganski}

Approximately where I’m at.

Political Clout is certainly possible scum, yet doesn’t feel like it.

Hu Tao is largely null, and if my solve is off, I'd put her as the replacement scum.

It may actually be {light_ganski, Black, Hu Tao}, as both Hu Tao and Black were late to the copclaim fest on D2, and neither seemed like they were playing as a cop on D1 the way Drew and JV did.

[Hu Tao]

{Enchant}
{ketchup777}
{Doctor Drew}
{Political Clout}
{Hu Tao}
{UsesPython}
{Black}
---
{Light_ganski}

Approximately where I’m at.

Political Clout is certainly possible scum, yet doesn’t feel like it.

Hu Tao is largely null, and if my solve is off, I'd put her as the replacement scum.

It may actually be {light_ganski, Black, Hu Tao}, as both Hu Tao and Black were late to the copclaim fest on D2, and neither seemed like they were playing as a cop on D1 the way Drew and JV did.

Look at literally my first post day 2. It was the most obvious cop soft on PC

[Ranger]

{Enchant}
{ketchup777}
{Doctor Drew}
{Political Clout}
{Hu Tao}
{UsesPython}
{Black}
---
{Light_ganski}

Approximately where I’m at.

Political Clout is certainly possible scum, yet doesn’t feel like it.

Hu Tao is largely null, and if my solve is off, I'd put her as the replacement scum.

I guess you've known all along that Enchant might not be VT and previously might have wanted to pretend Enchant was top townread. Now there's nothing to hide, aren't you even a little bit concerned Enchant is maf?

A little bit? Sure. He's possibly scum. I think his going along with the VT plan strongly indicates he's town, along with his doubts about three players investigating him.

[Hu Tao]

{Enchant}
{ketchup777}
{Doctor Drew}
{Political Clout}
{Hu Tao}
{UsesPython}
{Black}
---
{Light_ganski}

Approximately where I’m at.

Political Clout is certainly possible scum, yet doesn’t feel like it.

Hu Tao is largely null, and if my solve is off, I'd put her as the replacement scum.

It may actually be {light_ganski, Black, Hu Tao}, as both Hu Tao and Black were late to the copclaim fest on D2, and neither seemed like they were playing as a cop on D1 the way Drew and JV did.

I lied it was my 2nd post but still. Before people claimed cop

Man. I was about to come into today upset at koba. Because Lap's claim sounded like it was there to find miller's. But I was also going to say koba was probably town for it because of Lap's role. But now I'm shook. Also why would scum even kill the Miller claim.

Scum is probably somewhere on the wagon. I'd say I like PCs vote the best out of all. So he's prob town.

[ketchup777]

{Enchant}
{ketchup777}
{Doctor Drew}
{Political Clout}
{Hu Tao}
{UsesPython}
{Black}
---
{Light_ganski}

Approximately where I’m at.

Political Clout is certainly possible scum, yet doesn’t feel like it.

Hu Tao is largely null, and if my solve is off, I'd put her as the replacement scum.

It may actually be {light_ganski, Black, Hu Tao}, as both Hu Tao and Black were late to the copclaim fest on D2, and neither seemed like they were playing as a cop on D1 the way Drew and JV did.

Look at literally my first post day 2. It was the most obvious cop soft on PC

You’re referring to 1069?

[ketchup777]

{Enchant}
{ketchup777}
{Doctor Drew}
{Political Clout}
{Hu Tao}
{UsesPython}
{Black}
---
{Light_ganski}

Approximately where I’m at.

Political Clout is certainly possible scum, yet doesn’t feel like it.

Hu Tao is largely null, and if my solve is off, I'd put her as the replacement scum.

It may actually be {light_ganski, Black, Hu Tao}, as both Hu Tao and Black were late to the copclaim fest on D2, and neither seemed like they were playing as a cop on D1 the way Drew and JV did.

light+black are the common factor resurfacing in my pools as well

due to a bout of procrastination my VCA thoughts will be another couple hours tho soz

[ketchup777]

{Enchant}
{ketchup777}
{Doctor Drew}
{Political Clout}
{Hu Tao}
{UsesPython}
{Black}
---
{Light_ganski}

Approximately where I’m at.

Political Clout is certainly possible scum, yet doesn’t feel like it.

Hu Tao is largely null, and if my solve is off, I'd put her as the replacement scum.

It may actually be {light_ganski, Black, Hu Tao}, as both Hu Tao and Black were late to the copclaim fest on D2, and neither seemed like they were playing as a cop on D1 the way Drew and JV did.

I lied it was my 2nd post but still. Before people claimed cop

Man. I was about to come into today upset at koba. Because Lap's claim sounded like it was there to find miller's. But I was also going to say koba was probably town for it because of Lap's role. But now I'm shook. Also why would scum even kill the Miller claim.

Scum is probably somewhere on the wagon. I'd say I like PCs vote the best out of all. So he's prob town.

never mind didn’t see that, cooley

[ketchup777]

if Light is disloyal cop and we managed to make our two Disloyal cops the top 2 day 1 wagons that would be really funny but also a priori that’s so unlikely, it’s more likely we hit a scum who cced

and with no one CCing VT I think Ranger is in the clear


but time to do juicy analysis

[ketchup777]

56 kinda feels like a townie post

is overlooking an RVS vote by mistake alignment indicative?

Not really, but I'm gut townreading his tone and his eagerness to reevaluate

I'm not saying you're wrong, but this feels very premature

How? It's a gut read. I'm not locktowning him

This chain could be an extremely early triple distancing in Black / PC / Light

[ketchup777]

VOTE: ketchup

Interesting, even though I think light could be town so far I'm surprised you took the pressure off so quick

LG not responding to or acknowledging her wagon feels kinda bad

VOTE: LG

Okay i take back what I said

these posts seem quite honest and would be extremely creative if Black / Hu Tao were paired but I think they’re not both scum tbh

[ketchup777]

I do have a slightly tinfoil scum team of Black and JV right now

could you elaborate?

Light might be trying to prepare defenses to Light+Black pairing

[ketchup777]

Ok maybe ketchup is town

I can feel the reluctance to admit this emanating (maybe)

[ketchup777]

56 kinda feels like a townie post

is overlooking an RVS vote by mistake alignment indicative?

Not really, but I'm gut townreading his tone and his eagerness to reevaluate

I'm not saying you're wrong, but this feels very premature

Do scum ever make this kind of post? I think so. Trying to make people doubt their town reads.

56 kinda feels like a townie post

is overlooking an RVS vote by mistake alignment indicative?

Not really, but I'm gut townreading his tone and his eagerness to reevaluate

I'm not saying you're wrong, but this feels very premature

How? It's a gut read. I'm not locktowning him

I see your point then

this is the only slightly interesting thing that happened on page 4 LG pushed black for her read on me then backed off immediately wasn't ready for the smoke.

this might be an interesting post to look at from PC/Light/Black POV. Not sure what to make of it atm

[ketchup777]

Ok well maybe this is where I drop that I think lap/titus/ranger is my current running solve

pls tell me why

because I have thoughts

I don't wanna read tm into activity and I've only played w ranger once as far as I can remember but what she has posted seems surprisingly fluffy (comparing the game I played w her where she was town)

ik light is virtually confscum but I just had another thought; if Light was already having doubts about Ranger, why not cop Ranger night 1?
answer: because that wouldn’t work with her gambit plan (or she hadn’t devised that yet)

[ketchup777]

UNVOTE:

Because I have no idea what’s happened while I’ve been gone

I'm curious about the thought process behind this unvote

could be trying to push me back into voting Lap

[ketchup777]

pedit: hell yeahhh

Are you not curious at all why JV suddenly reversed course on you?

this also feels like a towny post

not to get too locked in but why

[ketchup777]

Page 40 PC+Light team up to attack Lapl‘s readslist, even though I thought Lap’s reads list was not so bad

[ketchup777]

Mhm, wolves probably have Godfathers to any degree and their announcement is probably the thing one thing that isn't normal.

Godfathers are normal now.

Godfathers are normal

if announced beforehand

Wait so it has to be announced that Godfathers are in the game? Does that mean the innos are real?

If town!Black is as good as I think she is, I feel like she would have been more suspicious like 'no way the innos can be real' rather than the potentially hopeful to exploit misapplied rules 'Does this mean [that we can coast to a win because the rules are wrong]?'

[ketchup777]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

disloyal does appear in the thread aliana linked.

UNVOTE:

I'm going to sleep on this.

layed down for bed could not sleep felt all wrong.

VOTE: laplacian

step on the gas.

VOTE: lap

VOTE: ganski

I wanted to see how that felt, not good. This better

The claim was cursed so I wanted to dip my toes in but no, they’re just town

In particular the belief -> disbelief is pretty anti-cop while JVs disbelief -> town despite the claim is very cop

reading this post again felt like Python had a v good point here

[ketchup777]

Hipgun firing a team of
{Titus, Doctor Drew, +1}, with the final being among {usesPython, light_ganski, JacksonVirgo}.

Titus I believe slipped not being a genuine uninformed cop.

Doctor Drew, I believe slipped not being a genuine uninformed cop around his earlypage Koba Miller claim interactions.

Spoiler:

The third is Gut guesswork.
UsesPython looks town to me yet they always do even when scum; objectively they

may

have made a similar non-uninformed Cop slip.
Light_ganski looks like scum and also may have.
JacksonVirgo has been town to me, yet gut pings as possibly not uninformed Cop.

Enchant is town.
Political Clout I’m fairly sure is town.

{Black, ketchup777, Hu Tao} are technically unsorted, yet vibe as genuine and town to me.

All of this is pending review.

Sorry this was a long time ago but could you go into this more Ranger?

[ketchup777]

I doubt it's truly a Ganski/Ranger/PC solve but it sure feels like it

If PC scum this could be a reason for the Jackson kill

[ketchup777]

Scum is probably somewhere on the wagon. I'd say I like PCs vote the best out of all. So he's prob town.

1.FINAL

Votecount 1.FINAL

Laplacian

(7): Hu Tao, light_ganski, Black, Ranger, Political Clout,

DkKoba

, Doctor Drew
light_ganski (3): Titus,

Laplacian

, JacksonVirgo

DkKoba

(1): usesPython
ketchup777 (1): ketchup777

Not Voting (1): Arko

off the laplacian wagon

I'm town
Black cld be scum, the early D1 vote on me was very reachy and I didn't understand why she jumped on the lap wagon right after me if she was town and genuinely scumread me
I already don't think ranger looked like her towngame D1 tonally

I don't think political clout and black are scum together: iirc PC started on my wagon D1 after it had mostly dissapated the first time and it doesn't make sense for scum!black to hop off just so scum!PC could start the wagon again (I was top wagon or tied for top wagon twice, and the wagons were almost entirely different: black, koba, python, drew the first time; drew, PC, titus, laplacian the second)

No idea about Hu Tao rn
I think doctor drew is town, for gut and for the same reasons

PC is town

Light tries to dismantle the idea of Black+PC being paired

The hop off / hop on of Black + PC is quite an astute thing to pick up on

[ketchup777]

Calling light and Black partners. There is a reason to vote light (counterwagon from yesterday) but I wanted to hear someone say it to compare if they usually do that. Black jumping off at the first motion elsewhere is suspicious rather than giving a reason. She wants to be on the light wagon if it takes but would rather vote town.

VOTE: Light

this mirrors my thoughts



random other thought that the Jackson kill may make it less likely Drew is scum because scum!Drew would’ve been confident Jackson would support him till he dies.
but maybe WIFOM

[ketchup777]

Strongly leaning pc scum as well.

Why?

Black could be trying to defend PC here