ughh im tired
i think kyoko's arguments feel the most forced to me here
feels like latching on to "bad" or illogical play and framing it as scummy and just trying to drive it into the ground, repeatedly questioning and hammering home the same point. it's sort of the same issue that i have had with her initial scumread on von payne. the specific focus on the single post about aureal in n1 as like the primary basis for a scumread while kind of just dismissing any possible town explanations is kind of ick. it just feels like one of those things that scum latch onto as "this looks bad why does nobody else see it" when i think scum are actually less likely to make such a surface level bad looking post considering they are informed of the alignments involved. like i don't see how that post helps accomplish scum goals in any way for black. if they want to add aureal they can just... progress to a townread on day 2 in a normal manner? there is literally no scum benefit to doing a little awkward attention drawing self-interaction about it in night 1
it feels like there's more emphasis being placed on making points heard and winning debates than on really digging in deeply to solve the game and consider both sides and take in all data. the selective viewing of things feels more likely to be coming from an intentional place than a tunneled place
like i generally agree with those who have said that the play from von payne is extraordinarily unnecessary as a wolf. i think they could have explained easily without the role theorizing, and im not sure why they're any more likely to have done that as scum compared to as town?
it is true that there are weird things that are hard to reconcile about how their progression today happened. you kind of have to squint at it to follow the thought process. but i also think there have just been too many points in the game where it has felt to me like black specifically has just not been working from a scum agenda and has been really independent-minded. and i just don't really think the reasons that are being hard pushed as scum indicative... actually... are?
alisae and maria i think have both had fairly towny reactions to events here