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Post Post #4450 (ISO) » Mon Apr 01, 2024 9:16 am

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VC 3.02
Kaguya Houraisan [2]:
Marisa Kirisame, Daiyousei
Reisen Udongein Inaba [1]:
Koishi Komeiji

Not Voting:
Kaguya Houraisan, Yuuka Kazami, Aya Shameimaru, Kagerou Imaizumi, Reisen Udongein Inaba


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Post Post #4451 (ISO) » Mon Apr 01, 2024 9:18 am

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Gif, you're welcome to pagetop.

Dai, please come solve with us, I KNOW there's a player in there who really wants to dig into this game and be heard by the herd, I saw it on day one well now's your chance.
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Post Post #4452 (ISO) » Mon Apr 01, 2024 9:24 am

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I forgot Marisa. Sorry Marisa. You uh, come talk to me in real time maybe?

I wanna set aside mech and talk about your thoughts on my reads. Specific focus, me townbinning Dai, and maybe convince me on pulling Fern down a tier or two, come try to take her spot it'll be fun.
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Post Post #4453 (ISO) » Mon Apr 01, 2024 9:34 am

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*crickets chrip*

I'll talk to my homie Tenshi in the dead thread I guess.

Hey Tenshi, how's it going? Is it fun, growing mushrooms? Does it itch? I really miss you. You'd still be here being witty and motivating and just a touch smug. But then a big bad wolf shot you in the face. That wasn't very nice. Now I have to wonder if they just suck at reading you, or if this is GiF being cheeky and smirking at the mafia vig super-strongman role he put in his game and got past the reviewers. Because if Kaguya is town too, we sorta have multiple protectives that are effective.
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Post Post #4454 (ISO) » Mon Apr 01, 2024 9:40 am

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In post 4453, Koishi Komeiji wrote: *crickets chrip*

I'll talk to my homie Tenshi in the dead thread I guess.

Hey Tenshi, how's it going? Is it fun, growing mushrooms? Does it itch? I really miss you. You'd still be here being witty and motivating and just a touch smug. But then a big bad wolf shot you in the face. That wasn't very nice. Now I have to wonder if they just suck at reading you, or if this is GiF being cheeky and smirking at the mafia vig super-strongman role he put in his game and got past the reviewers. Because if Kaguya is town too, we sorta have multiple protectives that are effective.
Yeah.

I uh, sorta feel like shit for how day two played out.

I let "optimal play" get in the way of a clearly bleeding town Sanae that I should have stuck to my guns on that initial townread. I just couldn't get over the scum reading me for the Yuuka casewall. Sorry bout that, Sanae-shrooms.

Mea culpa.

I'm gonna try and LISTEN (tm) to your reads as you pleaded.
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Post Post #4455 (ISO) » Mon Apr 01, 2024 9:41 am

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In post 4447, Koishi Komeiji wrote: Aya get your feathered butt in here, it's time to stop moping and to start murdering. And you're literally crow, murder is in your species' grouping name.
Yes yes bird is here.

Clownpiece said that Marisa is town because of them being the only one who was targetted by Larvae?
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Post Post #4456 (ISO) » Mon Apr 01, 2024 9:47 am

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The fruit vendor thing?

I find it conceivable that it was routed to Tenshi, and that Marisa could be cheeky mafia claiming the fruit since they know where it went was a dead person, so I am discounting an outright mechclear. This scenario would also make the vig shot more interesting as a scum vig shot.
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Post Post #4457 (ISO) » Mon Apr 01, 2024 9:51 am

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In post 4101, Sanae Kochiya wrote:
In post 4096, Yuuka Kazami wrote:
In post 4090, Sanae Kochiya wrote:
In post 4082, Yuuka Kazami wrote: I'm not clown piece, but I'd be looking at Clown, Kagerou, Marisa, Kaguya.

With an emphasis on Kagerou.
Clown and Marisa I actually think are town on reads
Why?
Clown 1.0 was incredibly townie
Marisa - I don't know why she keeps flashwagoning as scum, or why she would start a wagon on me end of day1, and I think the indecisiveness is townie
In post 4099, Sanae Kochiya wrote: And I'll say, again, that the Tenshi vig makes little sense to me from a town POV, Tenshi was pretty obvtown end of day, and I believe at least both me and Koishi said that
(I.e. Kagerou being like 'nobody had townreads on them! So I thought I was reducing the lim pool!' Makes very little sense to me)
Sanae is seeing the suspect thing too. I'm not hallucinating it. Could it be a cheeky play from a werewolf-vig? Maybe that's the answer to double protectives, an extra kill to just straight-up advance their team a half-phase to balance out the town crazystrongs.
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Post Post #4458 (ISO) » Mon Apr 01, 2024 9:52 am

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In post 4092, Sanae Kochiya wrote: I would go like

Reisen -> Yuuka/Kaguya -> Kagerou -> Dai/Marisa -> Clown
Another point in favor of Reisen. We're overlapping, but because I came to reisen via different methods than you, Sanae-shroom; it's amplifying.
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Post Post #4459 (ISO) » Mon Apr 01, 2024 9:56 am

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I feel like there's nozero odds this is cheeky mech-Kaguya scum, and Reisein partner.

And all of {Dai/Aya/Marisa/Wolfy} are just town who I'm forgetting. THe only read of Sanae's that I disagree with is the Yuuka one. I'm not quite there because my town read of Yuuka has been trending up, not down. And there's day three data that Sanae-before-shroom wasn't around to see that trends that direction.
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Post Post #4460 (ISO) » Mon Apr 01, 2024 9:59 am

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In post 4459, Koishi Komeiji wrote: I feel like there's nozero odds this is cheeky mech-Kaguya scum, and Reisein partner.

And all of {Dai/Aya/Marisa/Wolfy} are just town who I'm forgetting. THe only read of Sanae's that I disagree with is the Yuuka one. I'm not quite there because my town read of Yuuka has been trending up, not down. And there's day three data that Sanae-before-shroom wasn't around to see that trends that direction.
Or rather, are just town who I'm forgetting to reach out to and find better, because I really shouldn't have so few townreads I have faith in this late into the game. RIght now if I set aside all mech the only two reads I have that are worth me dead before them are Aya and... Yuuka actually. I weigh your Marisa read over mine, I find the lass hard to understand, sanaeshroom.
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Post Post #4461 (ISO) » Mon Apr 01, 2024 10:00 am

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Come bird. I fear you must talk me down this cliff.
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Post Post #4462 (ISO) » Mon Apr 01, 2024 10:01 am

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In post 4461, Koishi Komeiji wrote: Come bird. I fear you must talk me down this cliff.
okay, explain things to a bird and I will fly us down.
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Post Post #4463 (ISO) » Mon Apr 01, 2024 10:01 am

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Ehh, I’ve gotten so far behind this game it’s just…daunting to get back into it. I already don’t have any special attachment being ascetic.

So I know the real way to sort me is to flip me, if it doesn’t put us in danger of losing then fine.

Some observations I DO have.

-I don’t think scum care very much about me being absent. Koishi is the only person that’s been on me and I think they’re town here.
- I have some thought to the idea of Koishi and aya scum together but I was looking at the vote counts and I don’t think it makes sense for coordinated night play in order to run the gambit they’d be running hypothetically and then be split on what to do with Sanae.

Think that makes kagerou particularly interesting since if they are town both scum pushed on Sanae. Context kind of matters since town did too.

Reading from dais comeback.
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Post Post #4464 (ISO) » Mon Apr 01, 2024 10:04 am

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Can I ignore the mech stuff? My head will just spin.
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Post Post #4465 (ISO) » Mon Apr 01, 2024 10:04 am

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In post 4463, Reisen Udongein Inaba wrote: Ehh, I’ve gotten so far behind this game it’s just…daunting to get back into it. I already don’t have any special attachment being ascetic.

So I know the real way to sort me is to flip me, if it doesn’t put us in danger of losing then fine.

Some observations I DO have.

-I don’t think scum care very much about me being absent. Koishi is the only person that’s been on me and I think they’re town here.
- I have some thought to the idea of Koishi and aya scum together but I was looking at the vote counts and I don’t think it makes sense for coordinated night play in order to run the gambit they’d be running hypothetically and then be split on what to do with Sanae.

Think that makes kagerou particularly interesting since if they are town both scum pushed on Sanae. Context kind of matters since town did too.

Reading from dais comeback.
Please do rally. If you're town I don't wanna make a townkill three rounds in a row. I am not dead-set on you, despite my vote being there. I want to hear your thoughts.
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Post Post #4466 (ISO) » Mon Apr 01, 2024 10:05 am

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I’m not saying kill me now, but I know my fate in this game with my role.
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Post Post #4467 (ISO) » Mon Apr 01, 2024 10:05 am

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Yes, you''re welcome to ignore mech because I don't think we have a single 100% mod-confirmed mech clear; that';s Kaguya's homework anyways. Mostly because if she doesn't convince me there's an actually 100% no takesbacksies loophole mod confirms at this point in the game, I will be voting ignoring everything but reads myself.
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Post Post #4468 (ISO) » Mon Apr 01, 2024 10:06 am

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In post 4466, Reisen Udongein Inaba wrote: I’m not saying kill me now, but I know my fate in this game with my role.
No fuck that, we lost our investigative. That means absolutely ZERO now, you can't be sorted by being targeted sure but neither can damn well anyone else, Clown's a shroom. And shrooms don't get to target ANYONE.
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Post Post #4469 (ISO) » Mon Apr 01, 2024 10:08 am

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In post 4448, Koishi Komeiji wrote: Kaguya, since you seem to be keen on mechspec, can you put together a spreadsheet of all known/claimed night/day actions and passives, and lay them out for everyone?

Ideally, denote cells with an additional color if they're confirmed by a second party (orange? yellow?), and green if they're mod confirmed IE the dai rezz.
Playerlist:
  1. Tenshi Hinanawi -
    Tenshi Hinanawi

  2. Aya Shameimaru -
    Aya Shameimaru
    • Wind Sign "Wind God's Fan" [Spellcard/Night] Deflector, resolves first
    • [Spellcard] Make all PTs found with PT Cop ability public
    • [Active/Night] PT Cop
    • [Passive] Invisible to action investigatives
  3. Yuuka Kazami -
    Yuuka Kazami
    • [Spellcard] Unknown, used N1 on Clownpiece
    • [Spellcard] Unknown
    • [Active/Night] Self-watch
    • [Passive] Notifies anyone visiting her that she's part of the scum team
  4. Kaguya Houraisan -
    Wakasagihime
    • [Spellcard/Night] - Effects targetting me resolve as if Strongwilled, get 3 fish total when combined with singing
    • [Spellcard/Night] - Doctor a single person per two fish
    • [Active/Night] - Sing to get 1 fish (Resolves before my spellcards)
    • [Passive] - Invisible to action investigatives
    • [Passive] - In a hood with Daiyousei
  5. Kagerou Imaizumi -
    Marisa Kirisame
    • Love Sign "Master Spark" [Spellcard/Night] Juggernaut, can't be recharged
    • [Spellcard] Unknown
    • Burglary [Active/Night] Flavor Cop with extra effects
    • [Passive] Unknown
  6. Koishi Komeiji -
    Youmu Konpaku
    • [Spellcard/Night] Change Compulsive Fixed Bodyguard target, both Koishi and new target are bulletproof for the night, informed if anyone attacked Koishi or new target
    • [Spellcard] Unknown
    • [Active/Night] Compulsive Fixed Bodyguard, target gets Strongwilled if Koishi dies at night
    • [Passive] Unknown
  7. Eternity Larva -
    Seiran

  8. Ichirin Kumoi -
    Medicine Melancholy

  9. Daiyousei -
    Daiyousei
    • [Spellcard] Come back to life after dying
    • [Spellcard] Unknown
    • [Active/Night] Redirect all actions targeting her to her target, if her target dies she dies
    • [Active/Day] Unknown, used it to check Yuuka/Aya/Reisen/Koishi d1
    • Misty Lake Resident [Passive] In a Hood with Kaguya Houraisan
  10. Marisa Kirisame -
    Remilia Scarlet
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    Flandre Scarlet
    • [Spellcard] Unknown
    • [Spellcard] Unknown
    • [Active] Unknown
    • [Passive] Unknown
    • Scarlet Devil Mansion [Passive] You are in a neighborhood with Sanae Kochiya
  11. Clownpiece -
    Toyosatomimi no Miko

  12. Reisen Udongein Inaba - Unknown, Lunarian
    • [Spellcard] Unknown
    • [Spellcard] Unknown
    • [Active] Unknown
    • [Passive] Ascetic
    • [Passive] In a neighborhood with Eternity Larva at night
  13. Sanae Kochiya -
    Patchouli Knowledge
Known scum abilities:
  • Spellcard Blocker - Used on Sanae N1
  • Passive ability disabler - Used on Kagerou N1 and Kaguya N2
Tried to figure out what's an active and what's a spellcard so some of these might be misplaced (especially the Dai ones) but pretty sure that should be everything claimed by everyone
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Post Post #4470 (ISO) » Mon Apr 01, 2024 10:14 am

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My passive is known. Immunity to all day abilities, which is noted to include vote multipliers.

I am betting that refers to Ishi's poison and one scum role we don't know that also interferes with voting, even if possibly a double voter.
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Post Post #4471 (ISO) » Mon Apr 01, 2024 10:16 am

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Sooooooooooooo what's weirder... A scum supervig, or a scum-scum neighborhood?

Or hey, possibility of gif going "lol both". Or neither.

Dunno if he's get that past the reviewers tho. But hey look at me mechspeccing right after saying I'd stop mech-speccing.
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Post Post #4472 (ISO) » Mon Apr 01, 2024 10:17 am

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Fair, idk who all has claimed what. I’m on 171 and it looks like kaguya vs dai/yuuka vs kagerou

Kagerou has the power to disable abilities but didn’t disable kaguyas…

Kaguya was put in a hood with clown and clown claimed cop. Also has a hood with dai.

Why isn’t today just dai vs kaguya in general?
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Post Post #4473 (ISO) » Mon Apr 01, 2024 10:21 am

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Talk to me more about the Dai-scum side of that argument.
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Post Post #4474 (ISO) » Mon Apr 01, 2024 10:21 am

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Lay that out for me, if you can?

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