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Post Post #4625 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2024 7:27 am

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In post 4623, Reisen Udongein Inaba wrote: Was why larva was the person performing the kill n1 get speculated on? I can’t recall seeing much about it but I am missing game chunks.
We don't know who did the N1 kill though? All that happened was that Aya redirected all actions from Koishi to Larva
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Post Post #4626 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2024 7:30 am

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Wait a sec this game might actually be solved.

I need a bit.
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Post Post #4627 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2024 7:33 am

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I need Kagerou to explain exactly how Burglary works
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Post Post #4628 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2024 7:34 am

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Cause it would be HYPER weird if it blocked for 2 straight phases (n1 and n2)
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Post Post #4629 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2024 7:36 am

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In post 4627, Aya Shameimaru wrote: I need Kagerou to explain exactly how Burglary works
In post 4628, Aya Shameimaru wrote: Cause it would be HYPER weird if it blocked for 2 straight phases (n1 and n2)
In post 3346, Kagerou Imaizumi wrote:
In post 3329, Aya Shameimaru wrote: So I was informed I lost my Camera and cant use my active on n2
Oh so that's what my active does

yeah that's me hi

my active is burglary, i can steal an item from people, it's basically a flavor cop with undescribed side effects
In post 4181, Kagerou Imaizumi wrote: oh yeah no, i disable actives

actually i had my passive disabled last day, that was the thing that i didn't wanna claim since like, it's not like it was changing anything and it could actually mess scum up a bit
In post 4191, Kaguya Houraisan wrote: How'd you come to the conclusion Burglary only disables actives?
In post 4192, Kagerou Imaizumi wrote: that's what Aya reported happened and i don't see any world where she lies

of course it maybe could've had changing effects depending on who i targeted but that's not a theory i belive in too much, and it didn't cross my mind when choosing night actions
I don't think she has access to any more information than you do
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Post Post #4630 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2024 7:45 am

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Okay in that case I need a Yuuka claim with N1 actions and a Reisen claim with n1 actions.
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Post Post #4631 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2024 7:47 am

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In post 4630, Aya Shameimaru wrote: Okay in that case I need a Yuuka claim with N1 actions and a Reisen claim with n1 actions.
If you're POEing night actions I'll add that we're still missing pretty much everything from Marisa
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Post Post #4632 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2024 7:51 am

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In post 4631, Kaguya Houraisan wrote:
In post 4630, Aya Shameimaru wrote: Okay in that case I need a Yuuka claim with N1 actions and a Reisen claim with n1 actions.
If you're POEing night actions I'll add that we're still missing pretty much everything from Marisa
Ah, then that too please.
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Post Post #4633 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2024 8:17 am

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And lo, did the game go back to hurry up and wait.
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Post Post #4634 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2024 8:22 am

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Frick the hurry up and wait, keep posting while this is happening on the side cause what's probably gonna happen is exactly the same thing the last few times this happened: The solve isn't perfect, people go back to using reads, and time gets wasted
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Post Post #4635 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2024 8:23 am

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Birb what are your ThoughtsTM on this game
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Post Post #4636 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2024 8:25 am

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(yes, that was the joke, I"m just at work and merely snarking from the sidelines)
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Post Post #4637 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2024 8:25 am

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In post 4625, Kaguya Houraisan wrote:
In post 4623, Reisen Udongein Inaba wrote: Was why larva was the person performing the kill n1 get speculated on? I can’t recall seeing much about it but I am missing game chunks.
We don't know who did the N1 kill though? All that happened was that Aya redirected all actions from Koishi to Larva
I thought larva died because aya redirected wherever it came from?
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Post Post #4638 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2024 8:27 am

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To the people holding onto stuff because it'll be useful later....

It's probably not worth holding back given game state, convince me otherwise.
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Post Post #4639 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2024 8:29 am

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I didn’t act night 1 I just got passively neighbored.
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Post Post #4640 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2024 8:36 am

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In post 4637, Reisen Udongein Inaba wrote:
In post 4625, Kaguya Houraisan wrote:
In post 4623, Reisen Udongein Inaba wrote: Was why larva was the person performing the kill n1 get speculated on? I can’t recall seeing much about it but I am missing game chunks.
We don't know who did the N1 kill though? All that happened was that Aya redirected all actions from Koishi to Larva
I thought larva died because aya redirected wherever it came from?
In post 3286, Aya Shameimaru wrote: I am the fucking best.

I redirected all abilities that targetted Koishi to Larva.
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Post Post #4641 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2024 8:38 am

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I wanna echo that bird's reads are something I am not aware of. I really am hoping everyone could give those bracketed reads.
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Post Post #4642 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2024 8:48 am

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In post 4606, Kagerou Imaizumi wrote:
In post 4591, Kagerou Imaizumi wrote: this thread feels like watching Kaguya trying to pry open the PoE with a crowbar
this was a jokey post but the feeling behind it is absolutely real, Kaguya kinda feels like scum forgetting to keep up appearances in a way because they are so busy with all that's already on their mind?
Put more words to this and make me feel it.
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Post Post #4643 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2024 9:03 am

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Speaking of prying stuff open with a crowbar, while I have you here Koishi what are your thoughts on this?
In post 4534, Kagerou Imaizumi wrote:
In post 4533, Kaguya Houraisan wrote:
In post 4528, Kagerou Imaizumi wrote: Yeah ok sorry Kaguya but i really don't get your proof by contradiction
It's simple: do you think stopping a scum kill on Aya/Koishi while in a hood with Clown would get me in the towncore? If yes then the numbers work out so that one person in the towncore survives til 3p ELO/4p MELO regardless of the results of Clownpiece's cop check
Not necessarily no?

The plan could also very well be for you to buy as much time as possible for the last mafia who is in a better position than you
In post 4535, Kaguya Houraisan wrote:
In post 4534, Kagerou Imaizumi wrote: Not necessarily no?
I don't believe you believe this
In post 4536, Kaguya Houraisan wrote: Like that'd be a level of paranoia that'd have you questioning the Aya redirect and you've been pretty content to leave the mech clear there

Also not a fan of the hedginess in tone there
In post 4537, Kagerou Imaizumi wrote: Ok maybe this is just me being contrarian but i feel like scum explicitely shooting their own foot to mess with town is in everyone's thoughts enough for this plan to not stick you forever in the townsphere basically

it would give you most towncred than me / reisen / even marisa maybe i'll admit that much
In post 4538, Kagerou Imaizumi wrote:
In post 4536, Kaguya Houraisan wrote: Like that'd be a level of paranoia that'd have you questioning the Aya redirect and you've been pretty content to leave the mech clear there

Also not a fan of the hedginess in tone there
The difference with Aya is that it came at a point where the mafia is in no rush to do things

night 2 there were 3/4 pretty much conftown slots 1 dead scum and much more urgency to actually *do* things
In post 4539, Kagerou Imaizumi wrote: Likewise i'm not a fan of you immediatly jumping on me while i'm still explaining my thoughts
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Post Post #4644 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2024 9:05 am

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I hate tone policing but I generally don't find it alignment indicative. Maybe I should?
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Post Post #4645 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2024 9:07 am

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In post 4630, Aya Shameimaru wrote: Okay in that case I need a Yuuka claim with N1 actions and a Reisen claim with n1 actions.
I’m a contagious watcher. This isn’t the word but it’s what it means.
Whoever visits who I watch gets a flower and then the next night they get watched Too They’re informed about the flower but not what it does.

My spell card was wasted. Because clown dodged. Other than that I can self watch non-consecutively.

And when I’m visited a player receives a message that I’m an incident causer.
Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!
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Post Post #4646 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2024 9:07 am

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In post 4645, Yuuka Kazami wrote:
In post 4630, Aya Shameimaru wrote: Okay in that case I need a Yuuka claim with N1 actions and a Reisen claim with n1 actions.
I’m a contagious watcher. This isn’t the word but it’s what it means.
Whoever visits who I watch gets a flower and then the next night they get watched Too They’re informed about the flower but not what it does.

My spell card was wasted. Because clown dodged. Other than that I can self watch non-consecutively.

And when I’m visited a player receives a message that I’m an incident causer.
Okay, except....

I am a Watcher.
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Post Post #4647 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2024 9:08 am

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I told a little fib about my role.

I DO also get informed about PTs... but I'm a full blooded Watcher.
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Post Post #4648 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2024 9:09 am

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Maybe calling it tone isn't the right word, like if it was a hard no or a hard yes I probably wouldn't have a problem with it but the way the maybe was written felt like that kind of weasely "keeping my options open" deal that let's scum walk back from their words or commit later
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Post Post #4649 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2024 9:09 am

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I think the ninjas are in part a counter to my ability. I’m not sure how it interacts with ascetics and now, I never have to ask because it’s gone. Rip.
Oh, sunflower, so tired of time passing!

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