Mini 2331 - Touhou UPick: Anonymous Edition (Game Over)

[Yuuka Kazami]

Kaguya how would you feel about shooting your shot here and then not hating me forever if I try to kill you next day phase if you’re wrong again?

[Daiyousei]

we are so fae-ing back

[Daiyousei]

I'm not sure how much stock I put into flavor spec given I exist at all.

Non-Touhou-knowers are invited to look up my character to see what I'm talking about.

[Kaguya Houraisan]

I'm not sure how much stock I put into flavor spec given I exist at all.

Non-Touhou-knowers are invited to look up my character to see what I'm talking about.

Counterpoint: Touhou LostWord

[Daiyousei]

If Lost Word were relevant, I would have a 16-ton weight vig shot.

[Kaguya Houraisan]

If Lost Word were relevant, I would have a 16-ton weight vig shot.

Yukarin, why didn't you give Dai a 16 ton anvil?

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Kaguya how would you feel about shooting your shot here and then not hating me forever if I try to kill you next day phase if you’re wrong again?

Do you think there's any chance that Marisa + Reisen are both town? If not then I'd prefer to save the deathmatch until 4p/3p if I'm wrong and hit the other first. If yes then I'd rather talk it out first in case I'm wrong

[Yuuka Kazami]

Yes, I think there’s a chance they’re both town.

[Daiyousei]

If Lost Word were relevant, I would have a 16-ton weight vig shot.

Yukarin, why didn't you give Dai a 16 ton anvil?

Gensokyo's greatest sage is, correctly, afraid of the unknown that is Gensokyo's greatest fairy.

[Daiyousei]

Yes, I think there’s a chance they’re both town.

See, even Yuuka agrees with your Yuuka/Kagerou solve, Kaguya.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Walk me through why Kagerou+Kaguya can’t be a team.

I hate team hunting. It never works out for me.

[Yuuka Kazami]

They’ve had like a month to fake claim and you’ve even helpfully laid out a guide for how to navigate all this confusion.

I don’t think a lack of a claim here is as scummy as you’re making it out to be. Especially because I don’t know. What their abilities are.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Yes, I think there’s a chance they’re both town.

See, even Yuuka agrees with your Yuuka/Kagerou solve, Kaguya.

*pokes*
Are you a lame duck?

[Daiyousei]

Walk me through why Kagerou+Kaguya can’t be a team.

I hate team hunting. It never works out for me.

Assuming that question is directed at me, the quick and dirty answer is that I don't see Mafia Kaguya per 4750. (For what it's worth, I'd been reading her as town up to today anyway due to the nature of the hood banter.)

[Yuuka Kazami]

I genuinely don’t know if I buy that given you revived and pointed the finger at Kaguya fairly hard.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Are you a lame duck or do I have to convince you you’re read of me is wrong Dai.

[Yuuka Kazami]

*your.

*shudder* I’ve made the most grevious of sins

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Yes, I think there’s a chance they’re both town.

My reasoning is that they can't be both town for the following reason

1. Premise: All roles are made by GIF
   
2. Premise: Roles made by GIF follow a consistent formatting of Spellcard/Spellcard/Active/Passive/Start of game Hood Passive
   
3. Marisa has Spellcard/Spellcard/Active/Start of game Hood Passive -> Marisa's role does not follow this format -> Marisa's role wasn't made by GIF
   
4. Reisen has Spellcard/Spellcard/Active/Passive/Passive -> Reisen's role does not follow this format -> Reisen's role wasn't made by GIF

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1. Premise: All roles are made by GIF or fferyllt
   
2. Premise: Roles made by GIF follow a consistent formatting of Spellcard/Spellcard/Active/Passive/Start of game Hood Passive
   
3. Premise: fferyllt was given this same formatting
   
4. Premise: If fferyllt misunderstood the formatting, it would be misunderstood in the same way every time
   
5. Premise: Assume both Marisa and Reisen's roles are made by fferyllt
   
6. If Marisa is Town then that means fferyllt misunderstood the formatting and assumed all roles are Spellcard/Spellcard/Active/Passive, and that Hoods take up the Passive Slot -> This means they wouldn't give Reisen both Passive Ascetic and Passive Hood Generation -> Reisen's lying about her role -> Reisen is scum
   
7. If Reisen is Town then that means fferyllt misunderstood the formatting and assumed all roles are Spellcard/Spellcard/Active/Passive/Hood Passive, and that abilities that generate a hood like Clownpiece take up the Hood Passive Slot -> This means they would give Marisa both a Hood Passive and a Regular Passive -> Marisa's lying about her role -> Marisa is scum

[Yuuka Kazami]

I’m not sure how much FF would be piping in. I’m not familiar with the mod dynamic between the two.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Do you have reasoning or general experience with the pair in terms of decision making on game design?

[Kaguya Houraisan]

I’m not sure how much FF would be piping in. I’m not familiar with the mod dynamic between the two.

I'm not either, but do you see any other way for there to be a deviation in role PMs for both Marisa and Reisen which is what would be implied with both of them being town

[Yuuka Kazami]

It’s funny how if I had just read the first two lines first I could have saved myself time.

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Do we know who all did the reviewing for this game? If there's 3+ people doing the setup then Marisa + Reisen town could work

[Kaguya Houraisan]

/in to mod

Game Name:

Touhou UPick - Anonymous Edition

Number of Players:

13

Backup/Co-Mod:

fferyllt

Reviewer:

fferyllt, Syryana

Setup Link:

it’s a UPick

Player Experience:

This account has a finished game under the belt, along with much more in main.

Moderating Experience:

This account has modded two large themes in the past.

Current Modding Commitments:

None!

Hydra Policy:

No hydra. This is an anonymous game.

Alt Policy:

Thid is an anonymous game, thus everyone will be given an alt account to play with.

Playerlist Policy:

all the known variants of WOTX applies.

Other Restrictions:

As this is an anonymous game, please sign up by PMing this account! Also, please try not to replace out once you join. Finding a replacement for anonymous AND a UPick is kinda pain.

Deadlines:

10/2 for first cycle, 7/2 for the rest.

Prod Timer:

48 hours.

Is Daytalk enabled:

Yes

Is it possible your game has any mechanically bastard roles or mechanics?

Unfortunately no

Is it possible your game has any procedurally bastard dynamics?

Please do not tempt me by asking such questions. (No)

Requests for exceptions to site rules:

Not that I know of, unless running an Anon game requires one.

Other:

This is an anonymous game! Alt-slipping WILL make this game much harder for yourself!

Hmm so 3 people designed the setup then?

[Kaguya Houraisan]

This game is like a mech mirage, every time I think I have something it slips away into the ether