In post 702, Klick wrote:
I think you're trying to achieve scum things instead of town things
I think you're seeing the things I'm seeing again,,
I'm town
I do think this pile up on me is odd. I don't feel like I've been that scummy at all
at least 2-3 townies are guaranteed to find you the best candidate to be scum here
I don't mean to be super harsh but atp I don't think it matters how towny or scummy you've been, we've gotta find a better candidate if we're wrong on u
In post 702, Klick wrote:
I think you're trying to achieve scum things instead of town things
I think you're seeing the things I'm seeing again,,
I'm town
I do think this pile up on me is odd. I don't feel like I've been that scummy at all
at least 2-3 townies are guaranteed to find you the best candidate to be scum here
I don't mean to be super harsh but atp I don't think it matters how towny or scummy you've been, we've gotta find a better candidate if we're wrong on u
In post 63, Bingle wrote:
I think that holding the opinion that you are very towny and Klick naked voting immediately after me naked voting you is sketch simultaneously is itself kind of sketch.
I’d like to hear what makes you town, for sure.
"very towny" is a bit of a stretch, I simply just liked Black's early push on PC
I didn't notice your naked vote on Black, that large duck picture threw me off
In post 70, Bingle wrote:
This line, black. It seems like something you’re pushing because you think you should be pushing something rather than because you think it’s going to give you real ai information. Am I wrong?
Yeah you're wrong. I'm not even pushing anything there
In post 204, Dannflor wrote:
i didn't like ceejay walking back his town read on you, felt overly self conscious and i don't really buy that because you claimed it wasn't a push that his view on it was suddenly different
i don't specifically get much value from klick's reasons but i don't ceejay has done much towny so im fine wagoning there
I don't remember walking back any reads? She was and still is a maybe town to me since 55
In post 70, Bingle wrote:
This line, black. It seems like something you’re pushing because you think you should be pushing something rather than because you think it’s going to give you real ai information. Am I wrong?
Yeah you're wrong. I'm not even pushing anything there
I misread that?? lol nvm my read
Is that not what this was
oh yeahh and I can see now why you looked at it that way
I meant there that I misread what black is doing (I thought they were pushing PC)
I still liked their engagement with PC at that point
In post 515, Black wrote:
ceejay what are your three most confident reads and why
bingle, implosion and...
nah I haven't found a third one yet that sort of grabs my interest. Maybe PC?
These aren't really confident reads but
I haven't really read anything from bingle yet that makes me go "oh this one really looks like it comes from town" and would make me unvote which doesn't make him necessarily scum but I'm not happy about it either
implosion I don't really vibe with either. I feel like he's engaging for the sake of engaging and I thought sometimes he goes out a bit of his way to make his posts a bit more vague? Granted this could just also be how he posts but I've been feeling like parsing implosion's posts sort of feels a bit harder than parsing other players
is this scummy? am not sure but its what got my attention
is this actually a read on a scumbuddy or is it just a scummy read on town?
I don't think this is ceejay's slip-up moment (to be blunt, I think he had that w ignoring me then asking me for my thoughts on implosion)
it seems to be the person ceejay is the most interested in talking about tho
In post 702, Klick wrote:
I think you're trying to achieve scum things instead of town things
I think you're seeing the things I'm seeing again,,
I'm town
I do think this pile up on me is odd. I don't feel like I've been that scummy at all
at least 2-3 townies are guaranteed to find you the best candidate to be scum here
I don't mean to be super harsh but atp I don't think it matters how towny or scummy you've been, we've gotta find a better candidate if we're wrong on u
I think scum is in that group as well
cool. use that gut feeling meaningfully - my point is that town in that group is guaranteed to outweigh scum. so no matter what, if we're working together we have work to do.
In post 740, Dannflor wrote:
I guess I have this idea that as scum you’re a little more performative in admitting reasons why you could be scum and claiming that people shouldn’t lock town you
Whereas as town you believe in your towniness a bit more and get more upset when people aren’t correctly reading you
Do you disagree with that?
are u trying to convince black that black is scum
I’m trying to give town!black a chance to break me out of a tunnel
In post 684, Klick wrote:
I still don't think PC is scum at all really?
My best way of describing why is that it seems like PC has been sort of in their own little world, solving things that they think matters. I thought this was towny before a ceejay!scum flip, and I think it's particularly meaningful with ceejay being scum. I read PC's solving as detached from the gamestate, whereas if PC was scum with ceejay I feel like he would feel a need to influence things a fair bit more.
does a similar argument not go for black? it's not like black was particularly influential especially in the back half of the day
In post 684, Klick wrote:
I still don't think PC is scum at all really?
My best way of describing why is that it seems like PC has been sort of in their own little world, solving things that they think matters. I thought this was towny before a ceejay!scum flip, and I think it's particularly meaningful with ceejay being scum. I read PC's solving as detached from the gamestate, whereas if PC was scum with ceejay I feel like he would feel a need to influence things a fair bit more.
does a similar argument not go for black? it's not like black was particularly influential especially in the back half of the day
they feel somewhat uninformed of ceejay's alignment
individually, I liked his read trajectory on me. I don't really feel like he was desperate to change his widely suspected position D1 and I feel like he would've felt more like that if he was scum.
idk I don't have like super solid reasons they've just felt townie tonally to me
they feel somewhat uninformed of ceejay's alignment
individually, I liked his read trajectory on me. I don't really feel like he was desperate to change his widely suspected position D1 and I feel like he would've felt more like that if he was scum.
idk I don't have like super solid reasons they've just felt townie tonally to me
In post 684, Klick wrote:
I still don't think PC is scum at all really?
My best way of describing why is that it seems like PC has been sort of in their own little world, solving things that they think matters. I thought this was towny before a ceejay!scum flip, and I think it's particularly meaningful with ceejay being scum. I read PC's solving as detached from the gamestate, whereas if PC was scum with ceejay I feel like he would feel a need to influence things a fair bit more.
does a similar argument not go for black? it's not like black was particularly influential especially in the back half of the day
It's two completely different contexts
I think Nlack stepping back during the end of yesterday is less meaningful than PC consistently reliably being detached from the central narrative
I also think that Black and PC are two different players that would prioritise different things
In a world where Black is scum here I think she tried to do stuff and then ceejay made it impossible for her to do stuff and so she didn't do stuff and instead played self-pres
I think PC has been doing PC things since before ceejay was fated to be the elim yesterday
In post 761, Klick wrote:
In a world where Black is scum here I think she tried to do stuff and then ceejay made it impossible for her to do stuff and so she didn't do stuff and instead played self-pres
Why would his situation have made it impossible for me to do stuff?
I want worst to be town
I feel like if {Klick, Dann, PC, worst} are all town and can all find each other then we win
But every time I look at duck's ISO I'm unconvinced that they couldn't just be scum
When I read back for a bit this morning I didn't think ceejay/duck interactions were that great for duck
I was hoping you were more particularly confident on them so I could just trust you on it but tbh I think worst/ceejay is a plausible answer
In post 768, Black wrote:
Why would I not let ceejay claim or be replaced before I hammered him? Do you think that was my best move? Because I don't think it's anywhere close
I don't think it's unreasonable?
I'm a sucker for 'I would never do this' but I don't see the logic here
I don't see the logic in me hammering ceejay when he was being prodded. I would have waited for him to either pop in and fake claim and then unvoted or I would have waited for a replacement to do the same. The hammer doesn't clear me so it's just such an awful move as scum and I typically don't make too many of those
