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Post Post #925 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 11:41 am

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Like, on an individual scumread level, Gypyx basically for sure, but when trying to put together a team? Jeeesus things look grim for my sanity.
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Post Post #926 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 11:42 am

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In post 920, Psyche wrote:
In post 918, the worst wrote: I'm going to let my thoughts on the hammer post roll around in my head a little longer I think
woah that's the most believable rationale for scumreading me that i've seen so far
I think in a vacuum I understand the hammer post. feeling absolutely correct on cakez when he had a claim that was clearly diffusing the pressure on him a bit would feel not very good.

I also think if I was scum on d1 here and *knew* cakez was town he would be a deeply annoying person to have cleared and treated like town. particularly if e.g. I had a partner who wasn't exactly swimming.

I'm also wary that a d1 tpr claim doesn't get you ~cleared~ exactly and if scum are confident enough they can just leave a n2 watcher alive into yeetlo and kinda hope for a guilty so they can push back lol BUT if scum are in any kind of trouble of losing a member and d1 then a n2 watcher is an instant loss condition
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Post Post #927 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 11:43 am

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In post 919, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
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In post 907, HighPrincessErinys wrote: as someone who knows that we lose if its voted out today, we should probably kersplode gypyx
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This is a real bitch of a question to answer because you and gypyx is unlikely, but then that leaves only me and gypyx or gypyx and The Other Consensusly Townread Slots. like. yikes.
just having reads on slots isn't going to help anymore - town need to find pairs of two players who can be scum together to eliminate to win the game.
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Post Post #928 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 11:44 am

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there's also this tremendous spectrum and on one end is conspiracy and the other is text as written and I don't have all that much time to assess where on the spectrum I exist or where I need to exist so that's neat and cool I guess
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Post Post #929 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 11:45 am

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In post 925, HighPrincessErinys wrote: Like, on an individual scumread level, Gypyx basically for sure, but when trying to put together a team? Jeeesus things look grim for my sanity.
haha i remember making this post as scum
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Post Post #930 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 11:46 am

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In post 924, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 922, the worst wrote:
In post 919, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 909, the worst wrote:
In post 907, HighPrincessErinys wrote: as someone who knows that we lose if its voted out today, we should probably kersplode gypyx
which scum teams do you see as viable?
This is a real bitch of a question to answer because you and gypyx is unlikely, but then that leaves only me and gypyx or gypyx and The Other Consensusly Townread Slots. like. yikes.
just having reads on slots isn't going to help anymore - town need to find pairs of two players who can be scum together to eliminate to win the game.
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Post Post #931 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 11:47 am

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this game is crazy lol isn't this game so crazy? wow I sure can't solve it hehe lol
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Post Post #932 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 11:53 am

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In post 930, the worst wrote:
In post 924, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 922, the worst wrote:
In post 919, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 909, the worst wrote:
In post 907, HighPrincessErinys wrote: as someone who knows that we lose if its voted out today, we should probably kersplode gypyx
which scum teams do you see as viable?
This is a real bitch of a question to answer because you and gypyx is unlikely, but then that leaves only me and gypyx or gypyx and The Other Consensusly Townread Slots. like. yikes.
just having reads on slots isn't going to help anymore - town need to find pairs of two players who can be scum together to eliminate to win the game.
psyche/drew

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My d1 reads are usually not fantastic but like dang that would make me so sad

Is there anything about Psyche & drew that seems like, aligned or specifically working to get each other to a winning endgame, from your pov?
This isn't scepticism btw I genuinely feel like I need a check on Psyche & drewsuka. there's this like kinda simplistic world where the scumteam is you/gypyx and that's right some of the time but if it's not right this time I kind of need to check myself.

Psyche's d1 is mostly pretty solid but it gets content and I do see a world where scum views that hammer as a considered necessity. I also trust Psyche to know Psyche well enough to know whether the hammer is redeemable or not.

Ausuka's handling of d1 wagons feels really pure - I liked her play around Deus like, a lot. I like the way she approached Cakez and in broad strokes I tended to either agree with or at least vibe with most of her reads. She was also just really low presence by the end of d1 so I probably need to see more from her/drew on d1 to feel like, phenomenally confident.
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Post Post #933 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 12:02 pm

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In post 419, Gypyx wrote:
In post 415, Psyche wrote: oh in retrospect its only a little better than a null read
i liked his soliloquy about voting cakez enough to not want to lim him that day
still wonder if there's anything to anyone's votes on him
i don't think i ever saw anything really articulated
I kinda like how psyche corrects himself in answer to me asking for more, as if he really didn't think about how to present this read (which is a step that scum kinda has to go through)

the reaction to the wagon also looks very much content focus? like, i'm not saying effort = town but i feel like he cares more about the votes being hard to extract content from
In post 420, Psyche wrote: it seems pretty easy to write a believable interpretation of my posts on this page that convey the opposite take so i guess i should credit you for not doing that
In post 421, Gypyx wrote: Psyche we have to tone down our theater a bit i fear they'll be onto something
I'm onto u two.

I kind of think I'd have voted gypyx for this post on d2.

a better takeaway for solving yeetlo is that gypyx is either tmi-img a fairly unnatural position to reach or gypyx has just had a moment of divine intervention. psyche's reaction feels tangibly relieved. so I guess what I'm getting at is I specifically don't think this chain of posts comes from a psyche/gypyx scumteam.
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Post Post #934 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 12:07 pm

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In post 431, Psyche wrote: by the way, me trying to draft a post and not pulling it off is at worst only around as bad as actively deciding to just float through the game and hope everything turns out okay
actually I guess promising to write the post is weakly positive because that felt like something psyche would specifically benefit from at the time. not following through tends to be a decision or indecision which is not connected to the promise which I don't think is alignment indicative given there's just no enthusiasm about solving the game at this point. gamestate very underdeveloped.
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Post Post #935 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 12:10 pm

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In post 929, Psyche wrote:
In post 925, HighPrincessErinys wrote: Like, on an individual scumread level, Gypyx basically for sure, but when trying to put together a team? Jeeesus things look grim for my sanity.
haha i remember making this post as scum
In post 931, the worst wrote: this game is crazy lol isn't this game so crazy? wow I sure can't solve it hehe lol
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Post Post #936 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 12:13 pm

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I don't actually think that post is AI fwiw, Psyche is right though and I thought it was funny
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Post Post #937 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 12:17 pm

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In post 932, the worst wrote:
In post 930, the worst wrote:
In post 924, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 922, the worst wrote:
In post 919, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 909, the worst wrote:
In post 907, HighPrincessErinys wrote: as someone who knows that we lose if its voted out today, we should probably kersplode gypyx
which scum teams do you see as viable?
This is a real bitch of a question to answer because you and gypyx is unlikely, but then that leaves only me and gypyx or gypyx and The Other Consensusly Townread Slots. like. yikes.
just having reads on slots isn't going to help anymore - town need to find pairs of two players who can be scum together to eliminate to win the game.
psyche/drew

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My d1 reads are usually not fantastic but like dang that would make me so sad

Is there anything about Psyche & drew that seems like, aligned or specifically working to get each other to a winning endgame, from your pov?
This isn't scepticism btw I genuinely feel like I need a check on Psyche & drewsuka. there's this like kinda simplistic world where the scumteam is you/gypyx and that's right some of the time but if it's not right this time I kind of need to check myself.

Psyche's d1 is mostly pretty solid but it gets content and I do see a world where scum views that hammer as a considered necessity. I also trust Psyche to know Psyche well enough to know whether the hammer is redeemable or not.

Ausuka's handling of d1 wagons feels really pure - I liked her play around Deus like, a lot. I like the way she approached Cakez and in broad strokes I tended to either agree with or at least vibe with most of her reads. She was also just really low presence by the end of d1 so I probably need to see more from her/drew on d1 to feel like, phenomenally confident.
In all honesty Psyche's reasons for townreading Drewsuka seem overall pretty good but like this one's said before alot of it is perhaps Drew using Ausuka's strong posting as a smokescreen. Like his vibes are good but this one doesn't think his content is as good. Would need to properly check in on that idea, though.
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Post Post #938 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 12:44 pm

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Potentially. The other voice in my head is like "what if psyche just townreads ausuka". Do you think psyche's reasoning feels pretty believable and authentic overall?
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Post Post #939 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 12:47 pm

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In post 435, Gypyx wrote: Snow is obviously struggling but i kinda like where his head's at in a general sense, there's also a few smaller towntells here and there

actually it's PC who i'm getting my eye on right now (as well as robert but this read is getting a bit stale)

PC seems very complaceant and happy to keep the game in it's state of semi-stagnation, the insistance on Psyche and the cakez post for instance really feels like willingly going down a dead end
This read feels really underdeveloped tbh I know it's my slot so I'm a bit biased but PC was the one who pushed a half baked wagon to e-1, I'm not sure how that's consistent with trying to enforce a glacial gamestate. PC just feels busy.
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Post Post #940 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 12:52 pm

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In post 439, Psyche wrote: think gypx/robert has better likelihood of the combos that seem plausible. despite signposting a robert scumread a few times, she missed the wagon when it had momentum and settled on cakez instead. but i could afford to take a closer look at wagon status across her posts to further examine these ideas.

gypx/snow back and forth by comparison doesn't seem very likely to be scum talking to scum but this is a vague take
I did not piece things together this concisely really good point.
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Post Post #941 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 12:53 pm

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In post 444, Psyche wrote: pc's posts on page 14 read as a sincere attempt to shift momentum toward a robert lim
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In post 938, the worst wrote: Potentially. The other voice in my head is like "what if psyche just townreads ausuka". Do you think psyche's reasoning feels pretty believable and authentic overall?
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Gypyx is seeing something I fundamentally do not see. It's also about my own slot but I don't know why she would think PC was pro stagnant gamestate and I also don't fully understand why she would think that would work as an angle I'm just left kinda confused
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In post 942, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 938, the worst wrote: Potentially. The other voice in my head is like "what if psyche just townreads ausuka". Do you think psyche's reasoning feels pretty believable and authentic overall?
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I generally think it's pretty hard to fake an authentic seeming read on someone you know that you're scum with, so I'd probably in the abstract call that a point against an ausuka/psyche scumteam. Its also a little hard to fake authentic sounding reads as scum but it's obviously a skill that you'd want to develop so I think I'd call it a point against psyche being scum too
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Post Post #946 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 3:51 pm

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In post 937, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 932, the worst wrote:
In post 930, the worst wrote:
In post 924, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 922, the worst wrote:
In post 919, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 909, the worst wrote:
In post 907, HighPrincessErinys wrote: as someone who knows that we lose if its voted out today, we should probably kersplode gypyx
which scum teams do you see as viable?
This is a real bitch of a question to answer because you and gypyx is unlikely, but then that leaves only me and gypyx or gypyx and The Other Consensusly Townread Slots. like. yikes.
just having reads on slots isn't going to help anymore - town need to find pairs of two players who can be scum together to eliminate to win the game.
psyche/drew

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My d1 reads are usually not fantastic but like dang that would make me so sad

Is there anything about Psyche & drew that seems like, aligned or specifically working to get each other to a winning endgame, from your pov?
This isn't scepticism btw I genuinely feel like I need a check on Psyche & drewsuka. there's this like kinda simplistic world where the scumteam is you/gypyx and that's right some of the time but if it's not right this time I kind of need to check myself.

Psyche's d1 is mostly pretty solid but it gets content and I do see a world where scum views that hammer as a considered necessity. I also trust Psyche to know Psyche well enough to know whether the hammer is redeemable or not.

Ausuka's handling of d1 wagons feels really pure - I liked her play around Deus like, a lot. I like the way she approached Cakez and in broad strokes I tended to either agree with or at least vibe with most of her reads. She was also just really low presence by the end of d1 so I probably need to see more from her/drew on d1 to feel like, phenomenally confident.
In all honesty Psyche's reasons for townreading Drewsuka seem overall pretty good but like this one's said before alot of it is perhaps Drew using Ausuka's strong posting as a smokescreen. Like his vibes are good but this one doesn't think his content is as good. Would need to properly check in on that idea, though.
Psyche commented on it, but what are your opinions on my take about the voting pattern I pointed out yesterday? And why it still makes a gyp/PC team possible

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In post 944, the worst wrote:
In post 942, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 938, the worst wrote: Potentially. The other voice in my head is like "what if psyche just townreads ausuka". Do you think psyche's reasoning feels pretty believable and authentic overall?
Yeah.
I generally think it's pretty hard to fake an authentic seeming read on someone you know that you're scum with, so I'd probably in the abstract call that a point against an ausuka/psyche scumteam. Its also a little hard to fake authentic sounding reads as scum but it's obviously a skill that you'd want to develop so I think I'd call it a point against psyche being scum too
I have been at work, but skimmed today's posting and your catchup

Like why is this something you are considering?
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Post Post #948 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 4:27 pm

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In post 946, Doctor Drew wrote: Psyche commented on it, but what are your opinions on my take about the voting pattern I pointed out yesterday? And why it still makes a gyp/PC team possible
Saw this but never for longer than 2 seconds. Fairly insightful post, it's just hard to put a whole lot of stock into PC considering he was already in his disappearing phase by then. That Snow vote was his last post, after all. The main takeaway this one has is that Psyche has had a weird half-committed scumread of convenience on me a for while it seems like. "Of convenience" referring to the being in his solves thing, but he never seems to act on it, which is... kinda weird, especially in D2 when the circumstances were a bit less MeLo. Not that this one minds being alive of course.
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Post Post #949 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 4:54 pm

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In post 948, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 946, Doctor Drew wrote: Psyche commented on it, but what are your opinions on my take about the voting pattern I pointed out yesterday? And why it still makes a gyp/PC team possible
Saw this but never for longer than 2 seconds. Fairly insightful post, it's just hard to put a whole lot of stock into PC considering he was already in his disappearing phase by then. That Snow vote was his last post, after all. The main takeaway this one has is that Psyche has had a weird half-committed scumread of convenience on me a for while it seems like. "Of convenience" referring to the being in his solves thing, but he never seems to act on it, which is... kinda weird, especially in D2 when the circumstances were a bit less MeLo. Not that this one minds being alive of course.
I do not understand his stating that he wants to be shown that he could be wrong, yet when presented with how he could be wrong.....just poo poo's it
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