In post 2518, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
i'm willing to dismiss the doctor idea entirely, as it's really obvious to anyone that Purple was FN
I'm re-reading the thread now as we speak.
I agree with you, I don't think it's reasonable to assume scum had doubts that Purple was the FN.
My assumptions about the night kill are:
1. It was a reasonable expectation that I was not going to be tracking the final wolf
2. The wolf felt that zach being cleared was worth keeping me alive
I think that sums all my assumptions up, I'll append to this if I think of another.
Given both assumptions (even in isolation), I feel like Zach is cleared outright. I feel it's incredibly unreasonable to expect scum!zach to not shoot me here, even if they had the lingering threat of a doctor. They couldn't risk that, if I was left alive and was tracking them. They'd be dead if they didn't kill me, therefore the chance of a doctor is meaningless.
I feel it was reasonable to expect I wasn't going to be tracking anybody outside of literally just zach, so that assumption only clears zach. The second assumption lands into my reads, which I know my reads but I am not 100% what people thought my reads were. I feel given a clear on Zach, where does everyone think I was going to be pushing? That's more important than who I actually would
Why wouldn’t you track Flush? Like why would I assume you’d only track Zach?
Wait a second. Purple was killed because the last scum is a roleblocker in this setup, isn’t it? Wouldn’t scum just roleblock Jack so he gets no info and kill the other confirmed town? Please correct me if I’m wrong on the roles. Why is this not a possibility? (aside from Jack claiming he checked HEM but he already lied once about his check so who knows)
In post 2530, KayJayQueue wrote:
Wait a second. Purple was killed because the last scum is a roleblocker in this setup, isn’t it? Wouldn’t scum just roleblock Jack so he gets no info and kill the other confirmed town? Please correct me if I’m wrong on the roles. Why is this not a possibility? (aside from Jack claiming he checked HEM but he already lied once about his check so who knows)
FN/Tracker is a rolecop game
"Am I a ghost like you, caught between the seams of two intertwining melodies?"
Okay sorry I can usually read English just fine but I’m like insanely sick and just finished working 50 hours in 3 days. Man, I really thought I was onto something. I’ve taken way too much medicine.
Okay sorry I can usually read English just fine but I’m like insanely sick and just finished working 50 hours in 3 days. Man, I really thought I was onto something. I’ve taken way too much medicine.
You're all good <3
"Am I a ghost like you, caught between the seams of two intertwining melodies?"
In post 2535, JacksonVirgo wrote:
I was not letting the chance of scum!kay getting a free win cuz of that
So why track HEM over me if you were already sold on him as town and scum being on the wagon/bus vote? If you’re going to track outside of Zach, why not me or flush since your PoE already eliminated HEM?
In post 2535, JacksonVirgo wrote:
I was not letting the chance of scum!kay getting a free win cuz of that
So why track HEM over me if you were already sold on him as town and scum being on the wagon/bus vote? If you’re going to track outside of Zach, why not me or flush since your PoE already eliminated HEM?
It was a consensus check. I am confident in my ability to solve you, HEM keeps coming back up in your head so I wanted to clear that world so we can work on narrowing down the scum in the rest of the game.
"Am I a ghost like you, caught between the seams of two intertwining melodies?"
In post 2480, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
it's a coin flip for me, really. i want to determine who gets the most value out of a {KJQ, StraightFlush, HEM} pool, but it really isn't that obvious.
I’d never win in a final 3 with you and flush, no matter my alignment, because I’m absolutely dying in that situation. I find it funny you gave the scenario where *I* lose us the game by voting you. When in reality, I think whoever is in the final day with you and me would know voting me is their best option to win. So yes, we’d lose as town but that burden wouldn’t be on my shoulders.
Jack literally cleared you.m (now that I know he wasn’t roleblocked lol) You’re not even an option unless he was lying about who he tracked. So why are you so worried about getting down to 3? Unless you know Jack is bluffing/lying, you’d have no reason to think you’re in danger on the final day.
I didn't feel the use in tracking Zach as I assumed I'd be dead so I wanted to do something that'll help in the off chance I lived. I was right to do that too
"Am I a ghost like you, caught between the seams of two intertwining melodies?"
In post 2480, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
it's a coin flip for me, really. i want to determine who gets the most value out of a {KJQ, StraightFlush, HEM} pool, but it really isn't that obvious.
I’d never win in a final 3 with you and flush, no matter my alignment, because I’m absolutely dying in that situation. I find it funny you gave the scenario where *I* lose us the game by voting you. When in reality, I think whoever is in the final day with you and me would know voting me is their best option to win. So yes, we’d lose as town but that burden wouldn’t be on my shoulders.
Jack literally cleared you.m (now that I know he wasn’t roleblocked lol) You’re not even an option unless he was lying about who he tracked. So why are you so worried about getting down to 3? Unless you know Jack is bluffing/lying, you’d have no reason to think you’re in danger on the final day.
It's not about him being an option, he's wondering who would benefit from a { Kay, Flush, HEM } pool as that's the world the wolf killed purple to be in essentially.
"Am I a ghost like you, caught between the seams of two intertwining melodies?"
In post 2535, JacksonVirgo wrote:
I was not letting the chance of scum!kay getting a free win cuz of that
So why track HEM over me if you were already sold on him as town and scum being on the wagon/bus vote? If you’re going to track outside of Zach, why not me or flush since your PoE already eliminated HEM?
It was a consensus check. I am confident in my ability to solve you, HEM keeps coming back up in your head so I wanted to clear that world so we can work on narrowing down the scum in the rest of the game.
But both HEM and Flush wanted to vote me at multiple stages throughout the game, why not clear me instead? Did you see that I came to a reasonable understanding and stopped looking at HEM once I was given enough reason to look elsewhere? You didn’t even have a clear on him at that point, so it’s not like I was forced to listen to you or others. Yes, YOU can solve me but there’s no way you can tell me you thought HEM and flush would just take your word for it….did you?
In a scum!kay world. Zach cleared. She would have to leverage my read on her to kill Flush. And then be in an endgame fighting against HEM. She loses that in most worlds.
Scum!Flush. They'd probably be going to push Kay here. Which Zach/HEM would be okay with, I would not be. Then I'd die and they'd be in a Zach/HEM/Flush world where they probably lose too.
I don't see the benefit of this kill being more for one of the two.
"Am I a ghost like you, caught between the seams of two intertwining melodies?"
