In post 398, OopsieDaisy wrote:
I guess scum!moros could be prepping for a town flip on ming and trying to use that to gain leverage tomorrow but like, just saying it believes him doesn't rly do enough for that. It's also always gonna be somewhat of a risk defending your counterwagon that usually pings me as a p townie thing to do cause it's actively not self-preservational (if that's a word lol), even if it doesn't rly feel like a read that's gonna convince others.
bar trying to get towncred on flip but the defence clearly isn't good enough to earn any towncred for it. there's no solid defence it's just personal feelings toward the slot.
You've defended ming a lot but never really explained why you believe him
i don't know. he says things and they make sense to me and i believe them. i just do.
Make sense as in you agree, or make sense as in you understand what's being said and think that makes him town?
the second is more accurate. i don't think me understanding him makes him town, though. it just makes me think the reasons people are pushing him are bad. i think he's town because it feels like scum are taking advantage of the push.
You've defended ming a lot but never really explained why you believe him
i don't know. he says things and they make sense to me and i believe them. i just do.
Make sense as in you agree, or make sense as in you understand what's being said and think that makes him town?
the second is more accurate. i don't think me understanding him makes him town, though. it just makes me think the reasons people are pushing him are bad. i think he's town because it feels like scum are taking advantage of the push.
I'm really confused how you're not seeing his play as scummy. What exactly is townie about ming?
well i don't think anything he's being pushed for is something that actually makes him more likely to be scum. he sounds stubborn and annoyed, not caught.
In post 402, OopsieDaisy wrote:
wait my point was that Moros is less scummy because of the defence. like i don't see the scum justification for defending ming in the way it does.
ah i suppose if the defence is too good and moros is the counterwagon that's gg for it. hmm.
i'm a little worried about how happy people are with this gamestate but also in order to get a vote through with hidden votes we do need a strong consensus which is always gonna feel red flaggy.
In post 398, OopsieDaisy wrote:
I guess scum!moros could be prepping for a town flip on ming and trying to use that to gain leverage tomorrow but like, just saying it believes him doesn't rly do enough for that. It's also always gonna be somewhat of a risk defending your counterwagon that usually pings me as a p townie thing to do cause it's actively not self-preservational (if that's a word lol), even if it doesn't rly feel like a read that's gonna convince others.
This thought ran through my head too
In fact
VOTE: Moros
Like this 100% was my thought process when questioning, but I think this requires a ming flip to be able to sort properly.
i suspect doctor drew and imaginality the most of the people who are voting me. i don't like their push, i don't think they care if i'm town. i think one of them is scum. i think black is okay. cat scratch fever maybe also.