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Post Post #6400 (ISO) » Sun Apr 21, 2024 5:18 am

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In post 6398, Reisen Udongein Inaba wrote: nah jk i'm town i just felt like like messing around
Wait seriously?

Do not fuck with me like this.
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Post Post #6401 (ISO) » Sun Apr 21, 2024 5:19 am

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In post 6397, Yuuka Kazami wrote: Gg. Sorry.
Fyi tomorrow I cant tell you what to do, i lean reisen still a tiny bit but honestly.... Reisen could have picked not to vote and rhen we see if Kagerou comes back within deadline want Reisen is conf scum? Hmm.
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Post Post #6402 (ISO) » Sun Apr 21, 2024 5:24 am

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VC 5.02
Kaguya Houraisan [Elimination]:
Aya Shameimaru, Yuuka Kazami, Reisen Udongein Inaba

Not Voting:
Kagerou Imaizumi, Kaguya Houraisan


with
5
alive,
3
votes to eliminate


Deadline:
(expired on 2024-04-21 16:41:24)
Svenskt Stål (12:21) you are pur evil hell spawn
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Post Post #6403 (ISO) » Sun Apr 21, 2024 5:27 am

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Kaguya Houraisan,
Cirno - Fairy of Ice
, aligned with Incident Causers, was eliminated Day 5.


Spoiler: Role PM
Cirno
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You are
Cirno - Fairy of Ice
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You are aligned with
Incident Causer


Abilities:


Ice Sign "Icicle Fall"
[Spellcard][Night]
- You attempt to freeze the target, roleblocking them. This spellcard fails if the target is targeting you during the night, and you will be notified as such.
Ice Sign "Perfect Freeze"
[Spellcard][Night]
- The ultimate Ice Fairy ability, cold enough to freeze danmaku bullets. Roleblocks up to three targets by spending 1 Motivation Point per target.

I am the strongest
[Active][Night]
- You can spend 3 Motivation points to refresh the spell card
Ice Sign "Perfect Freeze"
.

Motivation
[Passive]
- Every challenge motivates you to go even further. For every two different player votes placed on you during the day, you gain a point of Motivation. Self-vote does not affect this ability. Motivation points reset every start of the day.

Misty Lake Resident
[Passive]
- You are in a neighborhood with
Daiyousei
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Factional Ability:

Image

Win Condition:


Eliminate all
Incident Resolvers
, or reach the state where such is unpreventable.


Night 5 Deadline - (expired on 2024-04-23 12:27:46), or all actions are submitted and every players request fast night
Svenskt Stål (12:21) you are pur evil hell spawn
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Post Post #6404 (ISO) » Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:56 am

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Aya Shameimaru,
Aya Shameimaru - Traditional Reporter of Fantasy
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Incident Resolvers
, was eliminated Night 5.


Spoiler: Role PM
Aya Shameimaru
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You are
Aya Shameimaru - Traditional Reporter of Fantasy
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You are aligned with
Incident Resolver


Abilities:


Wind Sign "Wind God's Fan"
[Spellcard][Night]
- Swing a giant leaf-like fan to create a strong wind current to deflect all actions. All abilities targeting your first target will instead target second target. This ability can be used on self. This ability resolves before any other abilities.
"Taking Fantasy by Storm"
[Spellcard][Day]
- Nothing is more exciting than printing a newspaper full of interesting "interviews!" Choose a target you have previously used your
Snooping for Articles
ability that return positive on Neighborhood result. The Neighborhood PT will be revealed to the public for a day.

Snooping for Articles
[Active][Night]
- Always hungry for scoops to write in your newspaper, you visit your target and learn any abilities used on them. You also learn whether the target is in an active Neighborhood.

The Fastest in Gensokyo
[Passive]
- You are too fast for the watchful eyes to catch. You are immune to any action-investigative abilities.

Win Condition:


Eliminate all
Incident Causers


Day 6 Deadline: (expired on 2024-04-30 12:58:17)
Svenskt Stål (12:21) you are pur evil hell spawn
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Post Post #6405 (ISO) » Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:58 am

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VOTE: kagerou

yuuka if you faked that reaction as scum gg
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Post Post #6406 (ISO) » Tue Apr 23, 2024 6:08 am

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What reaction?

Also, Aya visited my target which means that when Kagerou visited me and stole my flower it did indeed get them watched.
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Post Post #6407 (ISO) » Tue Apr 23, 2024 6:08 am

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This is me not voting. Yesh.
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Post Post #6408 (ISO) » Tue Apr 23, 2024 6:11 am

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In post 6406, Yuuka Kazami wrote: What reaction?

Also, Aya visited my target which means that when Kagerou visited me and stole my flower it did indeed get them watched.
when i was fake scumclaiming after the hammer

i have no idea what the second sentence means
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Post Post #6409 (ISO) » Tue Apr 23, 2024 6:16 am

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also i have 0 attachment to this game as a late sub

decided to just sheep the confirmed town rather than being a hero because i'd feel worse if i did my own thing and was wrong. would be throwing out the play of someone who actually spent time and effort on this

similarly, i'm not gonna try to argue super hard because i wasn't in this slot for 95% of the game and there's no meaningful case i can make. just read yourself and decide whatever you think is right.
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Post Post #6410 (ISO) » Tue Apr 23, 2024 7:11 am

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Gunna wait on Kagerou to get here. Then do what I normally do in elo.

Which is play the game of mafia. This’ll be fun.
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Post Post #6411 (ISO) » Tue Apr 23, 2024 7:12 am

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As a favor to me Kagerou, Reisen already voted you so I am confirmed not scum. So please, do not vote me.
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Post Post #6412 (ISO) » Tue Apr 23, 2024 7:17 am

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Yeah, sure Reisen. Do as much as you’d like. I’ll just be over here doing what I can. If you can’t or don’t wanna answer a question feel free just to say no.

I’m at work right now so I’ll be posting a lot more later today.
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Post Post #6413 (ISO) » Tue Apr 23, 2024 7:20 am

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In post 6408, Reisen Udongein Inaba wrote:
In post 6406, Yuuka Kazami wrote: What reaction?

Also, Aya visited my target which means that when Kagerou visited me and stole my flower it did indeed get them watched.
when i was fake scumclaiming after the hammer

i have no idea what the second sentence means
I made two posts after hammer and nothing about those two posts are unique or particularly townie.
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Post Post #6414 (ISO) » Tue Apr 23, 2024 7:21 am

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It’s just emotion that could easily be faked, hell, if I were scum I would be incentivized to pretend as hard as I could to pretend to be ignorant about what Kaguya was flipping
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Post Post #6415 (ISO) » Tue Apr 23, 2024 7:57 am

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replacing into a melo/elo game has the exact opposite feel for me because I tend to see mafia as a puzzle late game. It’s like, my favorite part of mafia. It’s like skipping straight to dessert for me.
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Post Post #6416 (ISO) » Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:46 am

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Yeah, okay. Kind of thought I’d come back to a dead room. XD.

So, I’m going to start throwing posts out there, these are open questions and you can respond to anything I mention in it.

Since activity has been less than ideal I won’t really hide which way I’m leaning like I usually would. Initially

Right now, I’m mildly confident it’s Reisen.
There are some sticking points. Mostly a sticking point in regards to Kaguya’s informed position that reisen didn’t have a role block and how weird that is for a scum partner to do and the kind of “they’re super obviously trying to attach themselves to Reisen” the counter point to that one though is that they reciprocated, Reisen was simply weird around Kaguya. It wasn’t just Kaguya being weird about Reisen. Reisen focusing on reading Kagerou without even acknowledging my concerns about them being a team is…a very strange thing for town to ignore.

It’s even generational because Reisen 2 got here and basically did the same thing. They made a case with reasons for town Kagerou and then proceeded to say “I think I know who Kaguya’s main is you guys!” And that isn’t remotely equivalent is it?
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Post Post #6417 (ISO) » Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:50 am

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I am conflicted if Kaguya was trying so hard yesterday to clinch the win because they were worried it was a house of cards that would collapse if they didn’t win now, or if their entire play yesterday was a house of cards. I’m supposed to trip over as planned.

That’s where the problem with Reisen 1 and Reisen 2 acting equally weird around Kaguya comes into play. It weakens that Kaguya was planning in the long term.

Reisen is likely just a weaker scum partner and Kaguya knew that. So it was yesterday or never.
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Post Post #6418 (ISO) » Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:02 am

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I would appreciate if you both could find time to case each other or show me what posts or actions point to good evidence the other is scum.

I could, and usually do, miss stuff.
Though, I don’t lose much at this stage of the game.
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Post Post #6419 (ISO) » Tue Apr 23, 2024 12:40 pm

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In post 6413, Yuuka Kazami wrote:
In post 6408, Reisen Udongein Inaba wrote:
In post 6406, Yuuka Kazami wrote: What reaction?

Also, Aya visited my target which means that when Kagerou visited me and stole my flower it did indeed get them watched.
when i was fake scumclaiming after the hammer

i have no idea what the second sentence means
I made two posts after hammer and nothing about those two posts are unique or particularly townie.
Three actually. Not that it makes much difference. You're right that there wasn't a lot to it. But I guessed that it was real and not faked.
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Post Post #6420 (ISO) » Tue Apr 23, 2024 12:47 pm

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In post 6416, Yuuka Kazami wrote: Yeah, okay. Kind of thought I’d come back to a dead room. XD.

So, I’m going to start throwing posts out there, these are open questions and you can respond to anything I mention in it.

Since activity has been less than ideal I won’t really hide which way I’m leaning like I usually would. Initially

Right now, I’m mildly confident it’s Reisen.
There are some sticking points. Mostly a sticking point in regards to Kaguya’s informed position that reisen didn’t have a role block and how weird that is for a scum partner to do and the kind of “they’re super obviously trying to attach themselves to Reisen” the counter point to that one though is that they reciprocated, Reisen was simply weird around Kaguya. It wasn’t just Kaguya being weird about Reisen. Reisen focusing on reading Kagerou without even acknowledging my concerns about them being a team is…a very strange thing for town to ignore.

It’s even generational because Reisen 2 got here and basically did the same thing. They made a case with reasons for town Kagerou and then proceeded to say “I think I know who Kaguya’s main is you guys!” And that isn’t remotely equivalent is it?
That's an oversimplification but okay. I was making points about how I thought both of you were scummy, even if I wasn't citing specific posts or anything. Which, yeah, it ended up being wrong.
In post 6417, Yuuka Kazami wrote: I am conflicted if Kaguya was trying so hard yesterday to clinch the win because they were worried it was a house of cards that would collapse if they didn’t win now, or if their entire play yesterday was a house of cards. I’m supposed to trip over as planned.

That’s where the problem with Reisen 1 and Reisen 2 acting equally weird around Kaguya comes into play. It weakens that Kaguya was planning in the long term.

Reisen is likely just a weaker scum partner and Kaguya knew that. So it was yesterday or never.
I mean, you have to ask yourself what mafia's win condition was supposed to be. Because scum usually go into ELO with a plan of some sort and fmpov it seems obvious kaguya was hoping my slot would be the losing misvote. they didn't seem to be doing much else.
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Post Post #6421 (ISO) » Tue Apr 23, 2024 12:49 pm

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Yes, mafia’s win condition yesterday was to kill Kagerou.
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Post Post #6422 (ISO) » Tue Apr 23, 2024 12:53 pm

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In post 6419, Reisen Udongein Inaba wrote:
In post 6413, Yuuka Kazami wrote:
In post 6408, Reisen Udongein Inaba wrote:
In post 6406, Yuuka Kazami wrote: What reaction?

Also, Aya visited my target which means that when Kagerou visited me and stole my flower it did indeed get them watched.
when i was fake scumclaiming after the hammer

i have no idea what the second sentence means
I made two posts after hammer and nothing about those two posts are unique or particularly townie.
Three actually. Not that it makes much difference. You're right that there wasn't a lot to it. But I guessed that it was real and not faked.
You guessed it was real and not faked in the same breath that you were saying that you hesitated to step out of line with Aya because this isn’t your game.

How do you think Aya would feel about you voting a player out the gate in elo based on three generic posts?
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Post Post #6423 (ISO) » Tue Apr 23, 2024 12:54 pm

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In post 6418, Yuuka Kazami wrote: I would appreciate if you both could find time to case each other or show me what posts or actions point to good evidence the other is scum.

I could, and usually do, miss stuff.
Though, I don’t lose much at this stage of the game.
I can try but I'll be honest if you think it's my slot then just go ahead and vote me, I won't really mind, I have no stake in the outcome of this game and no accountability for anything my predecessor did.

But I'm not going to rip my heart out trying to prove Kagerou is mafia to you to have it all get ignored. Because if I were the one making the decision yesterday I likely would have gotten it wrong.
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Post Post #6424 (ISO) » Tue Apr 23, 2024 12:54 pm

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In post 6421, Yuuka Kazami wrote: Yes, mafia’s win condition yesterday was to kill Kagerou.
was kaguya pushing that?

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