Micro Normal 1104 - Day 3

[Hu Tao]

Getting nervous that Luka could be town. If so then maybe gif is scum and I'm being bamboozled. Still feel good about kay

[Hu Tao]

I feel like I've done more defending of the gif slot than. So maybe we just wait for gif to talk

[humaneatingmonkey]

Also, since I claimed VT, I will understand if people can solve the game easier if they can resolve my slot. I understand that there's a lot of issues with my slot. So if the day ends with my elimination, I don't mind as long as people assure me that it's going to result in a mech-solve or something like that. I just want to participate in that discussion.

[Luka]

@Hu Tao you brought up the meta angle as your only defense, can you link a few town / wolf games bestie?

[KayJayQueue]

Also, since I claimed VT, I will understand if people can solve the game easier if they can resolve my slot. I understand that there's a lot of issues with my slot. So if the day ends with my elimination, I don't mind as long as people assure me that it's going to result in a mech-solve or something like that. I just want to participate in that discussion.

It’s a micro, I don’t want to be purposely down to only 3 town (with 5 left) if we can manage to hit scum instead. It seems weird to offer yourself up here when we don’t have a ton of wiggle room.

[humaneatingmonkey]

It's because a mech solve usually involve a claimed investigative, and if they come with a clear and the mechsolve requires to clear me first, then I'm going to concede.

[KayJayQueue]

It's because a mech solve usually involve a claimed investigative, and if they come with a clear and the mechsolve requires to clear me first, then I'm going to concede.

Okay I didn’t understand any of that but I’m going to assume you have a good point.

[GuyInFreezer]

I don't have much time today so I'm going to cheat.

Spoiler: VCA

1.01

Votecount 1.01

FancyPants

(1):

Eiralox

Overcat (1):

Umlaut

Umlaut

(1): Luka
KayJayQueue (1):

FancyPants

JacksonVirgo (1): ceejayvinoya

Not Voting (4): KayJayQueue, Overcat, JacksonVirgo, Hu Tao

1.02

Votecount 1.02

JacksonVirgo (2): ceejayvinoya, KayJayQueue
Overcat (1):

Umlaut

KayJayQueue (1):

FancyPants

Hu Tao (1): Luka

Not Voting (4): Overcat, JacksonVirgo, Hu Tao,

Eiralox

1.03

Votecount 1.03

Overcat (2):

Umlaut

, KayJayQueue
Luka (2): Overcat, JacksonVirgo
JacksonVirgo (1): ceejayvinoya
KayJayQueue (1):

FancyPants

Hu Tao (1): Luka

Not Voting (2): Hu Tao,

Eiralox

1.04

Votecount 1.04

ceejayvinoya (2):

Umlaut

,

Eiralox

Luka (1): Overcat
Overcat (1): KayJayQueue
JacksonVirgo (1): ceejayvinoya
KayJayQueue (1):

FancyPants

Hu Tao (1): Luka

Not Voting (2): Hu Tao, JacksonVirgo

1.05

Votecount 1.05

Luka (1): humaneatingmonkey
KayJayQueue (1):

FancyPants

humaneatingmonkey (1):

Umlaut

GuyInFreezer (1): KayJayQueue
Hu Tao (1): Luka

Not Voting (4): Hu Tao, JacksonVirgo,

Eiralox

, GuyInFreezer

1.06

Votecount 1.06

Eiralox

(2): humaneatingmonkey, Hu Tao
KayJayQueue (2):

FancyPants

,

Umlaut

humaneatingmonkey (1):

Eiralox

Hu Tao (1): Luka

Not Voting (3): JacksonVirgo, GuyInFreezer, KayJayQueue

1.07

Votecount 1.07

Eiralox

(E-2): humaneatingmonkey, Hu Tao, JacksonVirgo
JacksonVirgo (2):

Firebringer

, KayJayQueue
KayJayQueue (1):

Umlaut

humaneatingmonkey (1):

Eiralox

Hu Tao (1): Luka

Not Voting (1): GuyInFreezer

1.08

Votecount 1.08

Eiralox

(2): Hu Tao, JacksonVirgo
JacksonVirgo (2):

Firebringer

, KayJayQueue
KayJayQueue (1):

Umlaut

humaneatingmonkey (1):

Eiralox

Hu Tao (1): Luka
Luka (1): humaneatingmonkey

Not Voting (1): GuyInFreezer

1.09

Votecount 1.09

humaneatingmonkey (E-2):

Eiralox

,

Umlaut

,

Firebringer

Eiralox

(2): Hu Tao, JacksonVirgo
JacksonVirgo (1): KayJayQueue
Hu Tao (1): Luka
Luka (1): humaneatingmonkey

Not Voting (1): GuyInFreezer

1.10

Votecount 1.10

humaneatingmonkey (E-2):

Eiralox

,

Umlaut

,

Firebringer

Eiralox

(E-2): Hu Tao, JacksonVirgo, humaneatingmonkey
JacksonVirgo (1): KayJayQueue
Hu Tao (1): Luka

Not Voting (1): GuyInFreezer

1.11

Votecount 1.11

humaneatingmonkey (E-2):

Eiralox

,

Umlaut

,

Firebringer

Eiralox

(2): JacksonVirgo, humaneatingmonkey
JacksonVirgo (1): KayJayQueue
Hu Tao (1): Luka

Not Voting (2): GuyInFreezer, Hu Tao

1.12

Votecount 1.12

humaneatingmonkey (2):

Eiralox

,

Umlaut

Eiralox

(2): JacksonVirgo, humaneatingmonkey
JacksonVirgo (1): KayJayQueue
Hu Tao (1): Luka

Not Voting (3): GuyInFreezer, Hu Tao,

Firebringer

1.13

Votecount 1.13

humaneatingmonkey (E-2):

Eiralox

,

Umlaut

, Hu Tao
GuyInFreezer (2):

Firebringer

, humaneatingmonkey

Eiralox

(1): JacksonVirgo
Hu Tao (1): Luka

Not Voting (2): GuyInFreezer, KayJayQueue

1.14

Votecount 1.14

JacksonVirgo (2):

Firebringer

, Hu Tao
humaneatingmonkey (2):

Eiralox

,

Umlaut

Umlaut

(2): humaneatingmonkey, KayJayQueue

Eiralox

(1): JacksonVirgo
Hu Tao (1): Luka

Not Voting (1): GuyInFreezer

1.FINAL

Votecount 1.FINAL

Umlaut

(EXECUTED): KayJayQueue,

Eiralox

,

Firebringer

, Hu Tao, humaneatingmonkey

Eiralox

(2): JacksonVirgo,

Umlaut

Hu Tao (1): Luka

Not Voting (1): GuyInFreezer

Key wagons I'm looking at is VC 1.07 (Eiralox E-2), VC 1.09 - VC 1.13 (HEM wagon development), and final VC (Umlaut CFD).

It is extremely doubtful that Umlaut wagon was rushed by all-town so there's like 90% one scum in [KayJayQueue, Hu Tao, HEM]. I doubt both scum would jump on CFD wagon like that. That leaves [JacksonVirgo, Luka]. Objectively my name would be in the group #2 but I'm town so.

With this in mind, I look at VC 1.07, the Eiralox E-2 wagon. It had [HEM, Hu Tao, JacksonVirgo]. I don't think both scum would join here. So I think scum is in either [HEM, Hu Tao] or [JacksonVirgo] (remember my group #1 and #2 from above?)

And then there is HEM wagon. VC 1.09 - VC 1.12 only had confirmed town voting the slot. VC 1.13 is where [Hu Tao] jumps in. Mostly confirmed town voting doesn't really give me info, other than Hu Tao is +town a tiny bit from this.

This has been done with 0 regard of my reads, which is outdated anyway so I should get to actually read stuff when I have more time than I have right now.

[KayJayQueue]

Yay he’s back and doing helpful things. Ahhhh so is Jack actually just bad? Maybe he is. Is HEM bad? Maybe he is. Is Hu bad? Omg.

Jack/Hu scum would destroy me. And they know it lol

[JacksonVirgo]

Ahhhh so is Jack actually just bad?

You're quick to jump on that

[JacksonVirgo]

Getting nervous that Luka could be town. If so then maybe gif is scum and I'm being bamboozled. Still feel good about kay

Why are you nervous Luka could be town?

VOTE: Hu Tao

[KayJayQueue]

Ahhhh so is Jack actually just bad?

You're quick to jump on that

Not that quick. I’ve been worried about you this entire game.

[humaneatingmonkey]

VOTE: KJQ This isn't the Kay I played with. Kay I played with is much more skeptical and tries to be more independent with her reads.

[JacksonVirgo]

Ahhhh so is Jack actually just bad?

You're quick to jump on that

Not that quick. I’ve been worried about you this entire game.

I'm hyperaware of that lmao

[KayJayQueue]

VOTE: KJQ This isn't the Kay I played with. Kay I played with is much more skeptical and tries to be more independent with her reads.

You think this is me not being skeptical?! lol

[JacksonVirgo]

VOTE: KJQ This isn't the Kay I played with. Kay I played with is much more skeptical and tries to be more independent with her reads.

Ah so you're seeing a difference too, usually I've been pretty confidently town-reading her this game but this time over it's a lot weaker

[JacksonVirgo]

I'm not convinced it's her as a wolf though

[humaneatingmonkey]

I don't think Kay thinks I have a good point if she can't understand me, and won't immediately call GIF as helpful without asking more questions.

[humaneatingmonkey]

I'm not convinced it's her as a wolf though

Where do you think it's coming from?

[JacksonVirgo]

I don't know if scum!kay would be this publicly paranoid about my slot. If scum!kay wanted me out because she's afraid of my town game, I'd be shot so this is a factor of me seeing if the paranoia and the behaviour around it is justified and at the moment it is. This is pending though as I'm going strictly off memory, if this wagon kicks off I'll double check this

[KayJayQueue]

VOTE: KJQ This isn't the Kay I played with. Kay I played with is much more skeptical and tries to be more independent with her reads.

Ah so you're seeing a difference too, usually I've been pretty confidently town-reading her this game but this time over it's a lot weaker

The difference is you didn’t feel town like you normally do so I’ve been extremely conflicted about who to trust. Usually it’s just you and then I feel better about my position. I feel like I have no one this game to lean on and I think I need that.

[KayJayQueue]

I don't think Kay thinks I have a good point if she can't understand me, and won't immediately call GIF as helpful without asking more questions.

The comment about you having a good point was a joke since I didn’t understand what you were saying.

[JacksonVirgo]

I don't think Kay thinks I have a good point if she can't understand me, and won't immediately call GIF as helpful without asking more questions.

I'm not convinced it's her as a wolf though

Where do you think it's coming from?

She just had a closed game where she voted wrong in ELO, which could be a reason for her to feel the need to put that trust on somebody's thoughts instead of her own. It feels weird regardless but the core of the behaviour is justified imho

[JacksonVirgo]

The differences I'm feeling come from before that moment though, if you are seeing a difference in its entirety moreso than this phase I am interested in developing this idea

[JacksonVirgo]

I will be regardless, but it'd be bumped in my priority list