Large Normal 247 - Day 5

[Enchant]

VOTE: Oblivion

I guess fine.

Proddodging with Sorry is meh.

[Psyche]

you find the "sorry" scummy?

[Enchant]

I don't find it townie.

[Psyche]

so are you voting for a null read? or are there other things you find scummy about the slot?

[Lycanfire]

man scrutinizing every ranger tierlist is exhausting

[geraintm]

I think for me to get anywhere on KJQ I'd have to read a scumgame of hers. I don't feel like there's anything concrete about her play here.

Still rereading the game.

She was scum with me in their last game.

They feel less confident than then now is about all I've got on them, but they are really hard for me to get a handle on.

[Psyche]

enchant never actually scumread me. choice to follow me on preferring obsidian with the weak basis in 2975 over kay similarly makes even clearer that he was never very interested in his vote for her either.

[Psyche]

kay would actually be an okay test of the rationale for my push on her yesterday. i was mostly overwhelmed by her response to me. am curious if i should be letting my interpretation of the sincerity of a post's emotions outweigh more concrete read basis. might inform how i should be thinking about other slots.

[Lycanfire]

I feel like Kay-Dave and Kay-Ranger interactions are worth a reread for you.

I need to go to sleep. I haven't gotten to the read that pinged me and prompted me to go through all of Ranger's posts but here's about 19-20 tierlists analyzed.

Spoiler: lists

{Titus}
{Snow2697, Hu Tao}
{KayJayQueue}
{geraintm, Little Wil o' Wisp}
{Thomith}
{Gypyx}

P1.

verdict: this snow read is fake, but may be based on the hood.

{Titus}
{Snow2697, Hu Tao}
{Naerys}
{Oblivion}
{KayJayQueue, PenguinPower}
{geraintm, Little Wil o' Wisp}
{Thomith}
{Gypyx}

P2.

verdict: nothing changed besides naerys, oblivion townside and penguin added to the middle.

{Titus}
{Oblivion}
{Snow2697, Hu Tao}
{Naerys}
{KayJayQueue}
{PenguinPower}
{geraintm, Little Wil o' Wisp}
{Thomith}
{Gypyx}

P3.

verdict: oblivion up, penguin down. they both posted on this page and i suppose these reads are in line with general effort.

{Titus}
{Oblivion}
{Snow2697, Hu Tao, Naerys}
{KayJayQueue}
{PenguinPower}
{geraintm, Little Wil o' Wisp}
{Thomith}
{Gypyx}

P4.

verdict: naerys went up

{Titus}
{Oblivion}
{Snow2697, Hu Tao, Naerys}
{KayJayQueue, Random Nurse}
{geraintm}
{PenguinPower}
{Little Wil o' Wisp}
{Thomith}
{Gypyx}

P5.

verdict: random nurse appears, gets added to where kay is at. geraint moves up. geraint's post 114 alone doesn't seem to warrant this.
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between-pages. for reference, she gave "p5" at page 33 and this is where I will question changes.

{Titus}
{Oblivion}
{Snow2697, Hu Tao, Naerys}
{PenguinPower}
{KayJayQueue, Random Nurse}
{geraintm}
{Little Wil o' Wisp}
{Thomith}
{Gypyx}
(page 34)

verdict: penguin up for shitting on ranger.

{Titus}
{Oblivion}
{Snow2697, Hu Tao}
{PenguinPower}
{KayJayQueue}
{Gypyx, Random Nurse}
{Naerys}
{Thomith}
{Little Wil o' Wisp}
{geraintm}
(page 36?)

verdict: naerys way down, geraint way down. gypyx up, willow down. felt like geraint arguing with gypyx and thomith was good, though the interaction with random nurse was not. you'd think this would cause geraint to go UP! especially when later on when i replace in ranger calls my reads "good" when I had thomith at scum.

{Titus, Oblivion, Snow2697}
{Hu Tao}
{PenguinPower}
{KayJayQueue}
{Gypyx, Random Nurse}
{Naerys}
{Thomith}
{Little Wil o' Wisp}
{geraintm}
(page 36?)

verdict: she "forgot to move snow up" doesn't matter because he's flipped anyway.

{Titus, Oblivion, Snow2697}
{Hu Tao}
{PenguinPower}
{KayJayQueue}
{geraintm}
{Gypyx, Random Nurse}
{Thomith}
{Little Wil o' Wisp}
{Naerys}
(page 37?)

verdict: naerys slides further down, geraint up. geraint: echoes snow on "don't like self proclaimed thomith-gypyx townblock", questions naerys blank vote and titus sussing snow.

{PenguinPower}
{Titus, Oblivion, Snow2697, KayJayQueue}
{geraintm, Gypyx, Random Nurse, Thomith}
{Lycanfire}
{Hu Tao}
{Naerys}
(page 42, "starting point")

verdict: penguin way up, kay up, thomith up, hu tao way down. penguin starts looking elsewhere, kay has some pretty good interactions with ranger. thomith considers snow, and hu tao continues to say that ranger is elim.

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{PenguinPower}
{KayJayQueue}
{Gypyx}
{Titus, Oblivion, Snow2697}
{Random Nurse, Thomith}
{geraintm}
{Lycanfire}
{Naerys}
{Hu Tao}

P6

verdict: this appears to be corrupted by the "caught up on current pages" post as she gives a "starting point" and then goes back to p6. gertaint falls down with no posts on this page. kay up and is disagreeing with hu tao. gypyx up and sussing willow.

{PenguinPower}
{Snow2697}
{KayJayQueue}
{Gypyx}
{Titus}
{Oblivion}
{Random Nurse}
{Thomith}
{geraintm}
{Lycanfire}
{Naerys}
{Hu Tao}

P7

verdict: snow shoots up with no posts. this looks like a shitpost.

{PenguinPower}
{Snow2697}
{KayJayQueue}
{Gypyx}
{Titus}
{Oblivion}
{Random Nurse}
{geraintm}
{Thomith}
{Naerys}
{Lycanfire}
{Hu Tao}

P8

verdict: naerys up and sussed titus, only content and change here.

{PenguinPower}
{Snow2697}
{KayJayQueue}
{Gypyx}
{Titus}
{Random Nurse}
{Oblivion}
{geraintm}
{Thomith}
{Naerys}
{Lycanfire}
{Hu Tao}

P9

verdict: random nurse up. questioned why gypyx townread him.

{PenguinPower}
{Gypyx}
{KayJayQueue}
{Snow2697}
{Random Nurse}
{Titus}
{Oblivion}
{Thomith}
{Naerys}
{geraintm}
{Lycanfire}
{Hu Tao}

P10

verdict: gypyx up, geraintm drops 2 spots for voting ranger's top SR?? next to no thomith content on page, no naerys content.

{PenguinPower}
{Gypyx}
{Snow2697}
{KayJayQueue}
{Random Nurse}
{Titus}
{Oblivion}
{geraintm}
{Thomith}
{Naerys}
{Lycanfire}
{Hu Tao}

P11

verdict: kay down (no snow content), either geraint up OR thomith+naerys down. geraint made two shitposts, thomnith susses kay+naerys.

{PenguinPower}
{Gypyx}
{KayJayQueue}
{Snow2697}
{Random Nurse}
{Titus}
{Naerys}
{Oblivion}
{geraintm}
{Thomith}
{Lycanfire}
{Hu Tao}

P12 (no, that's not Naerys up; that's all of those names
down)

verdict: kay goes up (no snow content), nobody going down really deserves it here. busywork readslist.

{PenguinPower}
{Gypyx}
{KayJayQueue}
{Snow2697}
{Random Nurse}
{geraintm}
{Naerys}
{Oblivion}
{Thomith}
{Titus}
{Lycanfire}
{Hu Tao}

P13

verdict: votes hu tao even though they hadn't posted for the last few pages. pointed this out d2. titus plummets (continues to sus dave), either naerys down despite sussing willow (one of ranger's top SRs) or geraint is up 2 spots for post 306?


{KayJayQueue, Gypyx}
{PenguinPower}
{Naerys}
{Snow2697}
{Thomith}
{Random Nurse}
{geraintm}
{Oblivion}
{Titus}
{Lycanfire}
{Hu Tao}

P14

verdict: naerys doesn't really deserve to go up here. kay up, guts willow scum & has some interactions with dave. think she looks good from them. gypyx is up for questioning titus TR on willow, disagrees with dave NAS SR. thomith is up and sussing naerys.

{KayJayQueue}
{Gypyx}
{geraintm, Thomith}
{PenguinPower}
{Naerys}
{Snow2697}
{Lycanfire}
{Oblivion}
{Random Nurse}
{Titus}
{Hu Tao}

P15

verdict: geraint way up for sussing NAS. gypyx down 1 slot for a NAI post. penguin is down, but it could be an up on thomith who is being contrarian with hu tao on this page.

[Psyche]

i guess ranger looks legit unhappy with kay in some of her posts

[Psyche]

yeah i feel like recommitting to my stance that kay is a distraction motivated in part by my paranoia about her tonal skill

[Psyche]

great! i now want to go on the record as feeling confident that the solve is these two:

geraintm
Enchant

if these two aren't the scum, i'll feel defeated this game, even if we win.

[Enchant]

enchant never actually scumread me. choice to follow me on preferring obsidian with the weak basis in 2975 over kay similarly makes even clearer that he was never very interested in his vote for her either.

Another nonsense fro Psyche.

[Psyche]

but of course titus's iso still gives pause

[Gypyx]

really don't like psyche's recent posting

[Psyche]

so are you voting for a null read? or are there other things you find scummy about the slot?

[Psyche]

really don't like psyche's recent posting

this suggests less confidence in your previous pair of reads than i interpreted

[Random Nurse]

Always knew you didn't have the guts

Well that's

one

way to poke the bear.

[Gypyx]

really don't like psyche's recent posting

this suggests less confidence in your previous pair of reads than i interpreted

My pair of reads is not my solve but rather who i'm willing to consolidate on

i considered putting you on there but decided otherwise

[Random Nurse]

Who's open for a psych lim today?

[Gypyx]

me i guess

[Psyche]

i'm not super motivated to go through another tug of war atm. am ok to go along today and hope for new openness tomorrow. but maybe i'll feel differently after the saturday morning sleep-in

[Psyche]

if the reality check is my lim that'd also be interesting. but your language emphasizing a distinction between solve and consolidation suggests you'd still feel like you're on the right track even after i flip.

[Psyche]

proposal: give me one of my preferences today and if the slot flips town i'll turn you into a doublevoter for the rest of the time we're both alive

[Gypyx]

honestly i'm kinda curious what all this lack of trust is about when so far i don't think i've been wrong about a lot of stuff (the 3 scum in hood arc doesn't count)