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Post Post #675 (ISO) » Tue May 07, 2024 4:22 pm

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HURT: all

I'll reset and dedicate some time to this tomorrow
I scumread Alianna.

ALL HAIL THE SCUM QUEEN!
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Post Post #676 (ISO) » Tue May 07, 2024 4:29 pm

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in today's episode of my brain i feel overwhelmingly confident in tsawwassen being town
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Post Post #677 (ISO) » Tue May 07, 2024 4:36 pm

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Out of the two not on my list. I feel more strongly about Aventurine. I could be wrong on Umlaut/experience. Umlaut's posting was fine but I'll admit I'm heavily driven by recency bias and exp's has not done anything to massage that aspect...

If the scum team is Aven/exp, they are on track to lose, yet aren't really doing anything to change course. So that does give me some pause. I think I'll start townreading the mentality of looking for a plausible coalition without including oneself in it more.
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Post Post #678 (ISO) » Tue May 07, 2024 5:15 pm

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not saying i even feel particularly confident tbh just wondering how often the scumteam just fall over in this kind of gamestate
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Post Post #679 (ISO) » Tue May 07, 2024 7:10 pm

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In post 665, the worst wrote: I'm excited to be outside the coalition bc it means u poor bastards are stuck w me until im threatening enough to nightkill :good:
I've been wondering in the event that coalition fails, wouldn't scum choose the larger group of coalition and non-coalition for nk?
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Post Post #680 (ISO) » Tue May 07, 2024 7:30 pm

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it's optimal to yeet through the coalition, since it's mechanically confirmed to contain 1+ scum

therefore scum are generally motivated to shoot through non-coalition players to keep the coalition POE as wide as possible
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Post Post #681 (ISO) » Tue May 07, 2024 7:31 pm

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idrc that i'm explaining scum play theory, like there's a very very small number of players who wouldn't figure that out on their first time playing scum in this setup & sub-optimal NK strategies are only useful as wifom so meh
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Post Post #682 (ISO) » Tue May 07, 2024 7:58 pm

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In post 662, Moros wrote: would you support Moros, Black, implosion, May, tired person?
i would, but i'm curious why you'd take me over tas
I'm tired.
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Post Post #683 (ISO) » Tue May 07, 2024 8:43 pm

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HEAL: tired person

4/4 one to goooo
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Post Post #684 (ISO) » Tue May 07, 2024 8:44 pm

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I think my vote on May is partially because I think she's towny & keeps saying things I'm thinking and partially a kind of chaotic neutral subversive move
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Post Post #685 (ISO) » Tue May 07, 2024 8:44 pm

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which is to say I'm perfect and don't intend to change.
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Post Post #686 (ISO) » Tue May 07, 2024 8:46 pm

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Post Post #687 (ISO) » Tue May 07, 2024 10:24 pm

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i can't fathom having black so low in a readlist.
In post 683, the worst wrote: HEAL: tired person

4/4 one to goooo
why?
I'm tired.
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Post Post #688 (ISO) » Tue May 07, 2024 10:55 pm

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Black & Moros should probably swap places I'll re-evaluate later
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Post Post #689 (ISO) » Tue May 07, 2024 10:55 pm

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In post 687, tired person wrote: i can't fathom having black so low in a readlist.
In post 683, the worst wrote: HEAL: tired person

4/4 one to goooo
why?
u need a coalition of 5 people to progress the game so 4 isn't enough
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Post Post #690 (ISO) » Tue May 07, 2024 11:15 pm

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i meant why u healed me, dummy
I'm tired.
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Post Post #691 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2024 3:39 am

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In post 682, tired person wrote:
In post 662, Moros wrote: would you support Moros, Black, implosion, May, tired person?
i would, but i'm curious why you'd take me over tas
i asked because i wanted to see what the worst would say. if you follow the trail of his reads up to that point, he townleans everyone except aventurine and experience, and seems to think they are the team. i thought that he and tsawwassen could be the team. so i wondered how he would respond to a coalition that excluded those four.
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Post Post #692 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2024 3:41 am

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his reaction was to be hesitant on it and then shift his reads in response so that he's now much more confident in tsawwassen being town and i assume no longer wants to exclude them. maybe so that he isn't put in those sorts of awkward positions anymore.
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Post Post #693 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2024 4:21 am

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interesting analysis, i assume that you think this implicates them as the team?
I'm tired.
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Post Post #694 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2024 4:38 am

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i think it's what the worst would likely do if that team were correct. i don't think it's the only possibility.
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Post Post #695 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2024 5:03 am

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i still don't really scumread tsawwassen individually. maybe it's a mistake to try to guess the team already. experience/umlaut are more suspicious to me.
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Post Post #696 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2024 5:54 am

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I feel like there's a bunch of pages I read and didn't really respond to because I was reading in limited time blocs D:
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Post Post #697 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2024 5:54 am

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Hot take it is a mistake to try to guess the exact team at this point
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Post Post #698 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2024 5:59 am

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It's weird because sometimes I think it's like
A useful thing that is useful in the sense that if the person genuinely believes it and I can try to follow their thought process I could get a better bead on someone as town and that's good

And a useless thing because it's a 2%er
Sometimes people hit 2%ers but a 25%er is so astronomically easier. So so much.
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Post Post #699 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2024 6:01 am

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I think my cynicism results in me rarely having early full team tinfoils and thus not being able to be townread off that since I like to merc scum one at a time. But I get townread in so many other ways. I even understand some of them! That's a lie. I lie as scum.

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