Open 93 - Near Vanilla: Game Over, Mafia Win!

populartajo · Post Post #1250 (ISO) » Mon Jan 05, 2009 6:44 am

Kuribo, answer 1192 and comment about the fact that Darox is not attacking you for the same thing he is attacking me
Better?

hasdgfas · Post Post #1251 (ISO) » Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:24 am

vote: tajo

The breaker is that his entire defense is "I know I'm town"

retrowiz · Post Post #1252 (ISO) » Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:42 am

Tajo...I think the scum team just assinged you to be daily target during night phase...since they all seem tunnel visioned on you...it's inapproprate if any of them are actually town.

retrowiz · Post Post #1253 (ISO) » Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:44 am

here come the scum hammers...I assume waiting for one of the townies to buy in....regardless this game does need to conclude sooner than later.

kuribo · Post Post #1254 (ISO) » Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:52 am

vote: Tajo

gg nextmap

retrowiz · Post Post #1255 (ISO) » Mon Jan 05, 2009 8:05 am

Can K7 save us?

kuribo · Post Post #1256 (ISO) » Mon Jan 05, 2009 8:11 am

tajo's death makes 3 town and 3 mafia

populartajo · Post Post #1257 (ISO) » Mon Jan 05, 2009 8:32 am

So I was right about Darox? Or is it KOC?
Right about kuribo, right about has in the end.

populartajo · Post Post #1258 (ISO) » Mon Jan 05, 2009 8:35 am

Pretty obvious this town didnt deserve the win with players like K7 and RBT and Darox or KOC whoever is town.

retrowiz · Post Post #1259 (ISO) » Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:09 am

my guess is KOC was the Townie.

Korts · Post Post #1260 (ISO) » Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:31 am

Sixth Fourth Day Vote Count

(4) populartajo- Darox, Knight of Cydonia, hascow, kuribo

(2) Darox- populartajo, retrowiz

not voting:

killa seven

And populartajo is lynched. He was a

Vanilla Townie.

Darox, hascow, and kuribo, the Mafia

win without a scratch! Congratulations.

mykonian · Post Post #1261 (ISO) » Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:34 am

yay, it's over!

Korts · Post Post #1262 (ISO) » Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:37 am

Sorry about the lack of prods in the second half, I got a lot of issues suddenly. Hope you didn't have any particular problems with the modding. Any comments will be appreciated.

I think the part where town lost a little was when two thirds of the mafia was replaced; and unfortunately both hascow and kuribo were more vocal than the rest of the town, as well as Darox. I think they did a fine job here.

But not to slag the town, they did good stuff too. Especially towards endgame; kuribo and Darox were candidates both for the last two days.

The funny and unucky thing is that k7 jailed all three scum, but never the one who made the kill.

killa seven wrote:Im bored with this game.

Im jailkeeper, targetted kuribo hascow and darox.

k7 has a pretty good scumdar. Now if you wouldn't lurk so much...

retrowiz · Post Post #1263 (ISO) » Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:37 am

Wow...I was perfect in my predictions...but remind me to never play a game with K7 again ever.

populartajo · Post Post #1264 (ISO) » Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:41 am

Town sucked hard this game. Since D1. Afatchic and gecko lynches were really lazy.
Grats, scum, hope at least I made you get desperate at some point.
Yes, K7 lurk less. And KOC, when you are at Lylo you dont vote someone until you reread all the pages that you missed.
I really think a decent townie would have realized that both kuribo and darox were pushing ridiculous cases.
Anyways, bye.

hasdgfas · Post Post #1265 (ISO) » Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:58 am

My play as scum is always so much better every day except LyLo. I start trying too hard once we hit LyLo and tunnel vision like I did here.
Tajo, honestly, you can't defend yourself with "I know I'm town" like you did most of the time late in this game. The cases on you were pretty decent, but you refused to actually defend yourself properly because you didn't like them. It doesn't matter if you don't like them, you still have to defend yourself.

populartajo · Post Post #1266 (ISO) » Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:07 am

Has, actually if you read Darox case you would realize its not very decent as you imply.
Kuribo's was extremely better but was not stellar. FTR, I did defend from both attackers. I had the last word in both arguments so I dont know what are you talking about.
LOL, I feel like I keep playing.

retrowiz · Post Post #1267 (ISO) » Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:20 am

tajo...it didn't matter what you said to them...I get that you had to try...but it was their focus that should have hit all Town's radar.

Darox · Post Post #1268 (ISO) » Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:28 am

Actually my case on you wasn't something I made up and I would have definitely throw it at you as town as well.

You can't take a situation where you and another player are under the same conditions then assume that because you're town, the other player must be scum. That's terrible logic. A: No one else knows you're town. B: It's a false dilemma and you can both easily be town.

Having the last word doesn't mean you 'beat' the argument. On the contrary, your last word managed to miss what my argument was saying completely.

I think we did quite well early as well, especially in using armlx to kill off afatchic and gecko then killing him before he could start asking questions.

populartajo · Post Post #1269 (ISO) » Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:43 am

Darox wrote:You can't take a situation where you and another player are under the same conditions then assume that because you're town, the other player must be scum. That's terrible logic. A: No one else knows you're town. B: It's a false dilemma and you can both easily be town.

I know its bad logic (I have admitted it somewhere) but that wasnt a reason to lynch someone in Lylo.
I think retro is right again. A decent townie would have realized that the focus and the ignoring of all the rest of players was just too much.
Now that I reread, I should have known has was scum long ago. The K7 vote and push was so scummy when it was pretty clear town should have an stance on that argument.
I messed it up when I just replaced and joked around about RBT and kuribo being scum together. All the kuribo attacks came from that part. I should play more seriously.

Darox · Post Post #1270 (ISO) » Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:44 pm

Is there going to be modnotes?

In any case, the scum night talk is located here.

kuribo · Post Post #1271 (ISO) » Thu Jan 08, 2009 12:41 am

I'm glad has and Darox didn't bus me after the "Rage hammer." I know on the surface it seemed like bad play, but I felt like I could excuse it, due to my history of acting emotionally and irrationally. And until Tajo came along, I actually managed to get away with it. So, in short, I suppose that makes my meta as the impulsive angry guy fairly useless now.

Totally worth it, this was my first time surviving to endgame as scum.

Tajo, you had me sweating bullets at the end, but I had to keep in mind that I didn't HAVE to fool you, I just had to fool one other townie. For what it's worth, your defenses weren't too bad on the surface, but the "I know I'm town" part made it easy to gloss over alot of them.

Darox · Post Post #1272 (ISO) » Thu Jan 08, 2009 12:47 am

kuribo wrote:Tajo, you had me sweating bullets at the end, but I had to keep in mind that
I didn't HAVE to fool you
, I just had to fool one other townie. For what it's worth, your defenses weren't too bad on the surface, but the "I know I'm town" part made it easy to gloss over alot of them.

This.

All through the end of the last day I was thinking "It doesn't matter what tajo thinks, it doesn't matter what retro thinks, we just need to convince K7 or KoC that we're right and we've done it"

retrowiz · Post Post #1273 (ISO) » Thu Jan 08, 2009 3:27 am

I'd love a end game comment for K7 or KOC..

populartajo · Post Post #1274 (ISO) » Thu Jan 08, 2009 3:30 am

Id love one too.
Im pretty sure KOC didnt even read the game before voting.