Mini 699: Insane Asylum Mafia: Game Over

[populartajo]

Tajo, I never said I wasnt a weak doc. I said I dont know. I don't know the mod's contingencies here.

So what role are you?

[populartajo]

Not necessarily. I don't have anything particularly damning against Mirth.

So she is scum with who?. Any guesses?

Missed this, but same beliefs (and stance) as Mirth in #1329.

Korlash, you are 100% sure Crazy is scum?
If yes, then we can lynch him.
If no, then we HAVE TO Vote No lynch.

This is a false dillema. If we lynch somebody other than Crazy—that includes you—and he or she turns out to be scum, the game continues.

So we have another farside supporter. Mmm.
You are not seeing my point, Coug. Are we 100% sure someone is scum today? Will we be tomorrow? I think the probs tomorrow are higher.

[forbiddanlight]

Oh yeah, Korlash, that should totally be "hayaku". I've read the lyrics to Gackt's "Vanilla" to know that far too well. (Yeah, I sang it as karaoke at a con once)

OH, you people want another vote count, don't you?

[StrangerCoug]

Tajo, I never said I wasnt a weak doc. I said I dont know. I don't know the mod's contingencies here.

So what role are you?

Pardon the insult, but this is freaking dumb.

[farside22]

Not necessarily. I don't have anything particularly damning against Mirth.

So she is scum with who?. Any guesses?

Missed this, but same beliefs (and stance) as Mirth in #1329.

Korlash, you are 100% sure Crazy is scum?
If yes, then we can lynch him.
If no, then we HAVE TO Vote No lynch.

This is a false dillema. If we lynch somebody other than Crazy—that includes you—and he or she turns out to be scum, the game continues.

So we have another farside supporter. Mmm.
You are not seeing my point, Coug. Are we 100% sure someone is scum today? Will we be tomorrow? I think the probs tomorrow are higher.

Yay wasn't is SC that gave you kutos for something that I pointed out for Mirth? Just checking.

[Korlash]

Korlash, you are 100% sure Crazy is scum?

Nope, and I'm pretty sure I made that clear...

If no, then we HAVE TO Vote No lynch.

we don't HAVE to do anything... calm your ass down...

If we can have a little more of probs of winning this game, then why arent we doing this?

Because I like the idea of lynching scum more and the fact YOU are pushing this makes me think it's a bad idea.

"Ondalay" should be "Ã

[forbiddanlight]

The Twenty Sixth "I love it when people make assumptions" Vote Count

"Is that what your voice says?"
"Nah, right now, she's humming show tunes"

farside22 (0)
Crazy (2): StrangerCoug, Korlash
StrangerCoug (1): farside
ShadowGirl (0)
Korlash (0)
Mirth (0)
Corvuus (0)
Populartajo (0):
No Lynch (1): Populartajo

Not Voting (4): Crazy, ShadowGirl, Mirth, Corvuus

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch
Deadline is at 10 AM EST, Tuesday, January 20th, 2009

[Korlash]

Oh yeah, Korlash, that should totally be "hayaku". I've read the lyrics to Gackt's "Vanilla" to know that far too well. (Yeah, I sang it as karaoke at a con once)

grr... I can spell it in hiragana... screw English...

[Mirth]

Tajo, I never said I wasnt a weak doc. I said I dont know. I don't know the mod's contingencies here.

So what role are you?

I will repeat this yet again. I am a doctor who is "rusty." I do not know what this means. It could mean I'm 50/50, it could mean I'm weak, it could mean any combination of effectiveness that mod thought up. You are just giving me a headache now. Between you and the blasted newbie games, I might have to take up Aspirin. Or hard liquor.

[StrangerCoug]

Oh yeah, Korlash, that should totally be "hayaku". I've read the lyrics to Gackt's "Vanilla" to know that far too well. (Yeah, I sang it as karaoke at a con once)

grr... I can spell it in hiragana... screw English...

はやく and not はいあく, right?

[populartajo]

Farside, what are you talking about?
Coug, Im asking Mirth how she knows she isnt a weak doctor. How does she know she isnt a killing doctor. In summary, what role she thinks she is.
Korlash, Im going to get out and breath some fresh air. I think I need it. In the meanwhile, do you think voting no lynch is not valid today?

[populartajo]

Mirth, what does your flavour suggest?
/quick posting before going out.

[StrangerCoug]

Coug, Im asking Mirth how she knows she isnt a weak doctor. How does she know she isnt a killing doctor. In summary, what role she thinks she is.

And she answered your question before you even asked it, and she's just said it again. She has absolutely no clue.

[Mirth]

I think I'm 50/50 nonkilling (nothing in there about hurting anyone, but I could be wrong), but I havent the foggiest notion if I'm weak or not.

[populartajo]

I think I'm 50/50 nonkilling (nothing in there about hurting anyone, but I could be wrong), but I havent the foggiest notion if I'm weak or not.

Do you hold any item?

[Korlash]

Korlash, Im going to get out and breath some fresh air. I think I need it. In the meanwhile, do you think voting no lynch is not valid today?

sure it's valid, but I think voting crazy is more valid.

はやく and not はいあく, right?

Hayaku hanashite kudasai... that seems right... yeah no "i"...

[populartajo]

Coug, Im asking Mirth how she knows she isnt a weak doctor. How does she know she isnt a killing doctor. In summary, what role she thinks she is.

And she answered your question before you even asked it, and she's just said it again. She has absolutely no clue.

Pardon the insult. Im talking with the owner of the circus not with the beasts.

[Mirth]

If I do, I don't know about, Tajo.

[populartajo]

Okay.
Coug and farside, do you have an item in your vanilla roles?

[ShadowGirl]

... I guess I think it is interesting that your PM specifically doesn't mention investigation but all the other millers do and other parts but...

His does mention investigation. :/ I mentioned

his

flavour is my last post. Are you consistently missing my parts or what?

[farside22]

Okay.
Coug and farside, do you have an item in your vanilla roles?

No.

[Corvuus]

SG: you lie. Here is post #37 at the beginning of the game. I don't see any word that resembles "investigation". In fact, recently Tajo said his specifically didn't have the word investigation and you said yours does and that his does (when it doesn't).

However I must ask how we can know that pop is telling the truth?

Because it would be totally ridiculous for me to attract all attention in the random stage if I werent telling the truth. I just checked some games and I believe its a consensus that claiming miller ASAP is the optimal play in my case. Scum now has to pick between NKilling me or having a semiconfirmed almost vanilla in town.
And here is the Flavour.

Paraphrasing and using the first person.

I am a miller. I managed to have a gun but sadly it's broken. There could be cops but they will see me as mafia. And if I were to die, people will look at my things and due to my useless gun I will be remembered as mafia.

I wanted to mess with scum's mind before the day is over but I think its better to give you all the package. I am a death miller. That means Ill flip scum if killed.
So thats why I hate Forb, because she gave me this WTF role. I must say, though, that Im playing it as the general consensus establish.

So either you are lying or maybe you didn't understand my point/question. Actually his doesn't mention investigation at all, and you just said it did so perhaps you are lying. Either way, Tajo has been somewhat consistent but it isn't quite consistent with you SG and that is why I am pausing and trying to re-read and rethink. Might have to rethink the whole 'process of elimination' bit but either way, the lynch of the day won't be based on PoE.

but yes, I read ALL your posts SG.

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Tajo: Your point about voting no lynch is not valid at all. The point of voting no lynch is valid ONLY if there are no power roles and no information so that the lynch is random. If it is going to be a random lynch then it might as well improve the odds of that random lynch. so of course voting no lynch is THE best move in that case.

In our case, we DO have power roles and we do have suspicions and ideas. Voting no lynch is by no means optimal since it isn't a tangible advantage of something town is CERTAIN to gain (as in the clear cut case) but something we 'may' gain or may get utterly screwed on.

I believe Mirth is a non-killing doc (50-50 succeed or dont, but not kill) since she protected me twice and I haven't died. If she was a killing doc, then voting no lynch is even MORE insane since then there could be two night kills, 1 from the doc and 1 from scum and it is a losing strategy.

As for scum killing someone (let's 'pretend' that they can't kill the cop for a moment) why the heck would they do so? It gives town information and improves our odds. Even if scum did no night kill, is it auto-lose for them?

If the cops were sane (or could trust there results and no RB) then perhaps it is auto-loss for scum. Investigate farside/crazy and figure things out from there, etc.

So how could this situation not be auto-lose for scum? If Crazy is a scum thief, steals a cops' bulletproofness, mirth doesn't protect the right one or fails and the NK goes through.

Then we start tomorrow with 1 dead cop... who are virtually all but confirmed now so guess what, our odds didn't improve AT ALL.

There are so many things that could go horribly wrong and even if Mirth did succeed in her protection and guess the right cop who got targeted, there would be no NK and we would still be in the same position.

Everything points to "no lynch" being a horrible option since we either stagnate or scum gain advantage. Having the scum able to talk at night and plan tomorrow's strategy/consistency, etc. is just not a good idea.

Corvuus

[Corvuus]

Kor: why doesn't it happen? i mean, having a result on a dead player?

C

[ShadowGirl]

I thought you were asking about

being

investigated, not the word investigation. Anyway, nowhere in my actual PM does it say the word investigation so I'm assuming any flavour that I/other millers have mentioned the word investigation was in terms of paraphrasing.

[ShadowGirl]

Third of all, SG, you specifically stated that in your PM it said

what happens when cops investigate you. It made no mention of cops actually existing and such.

This is what I was replying to in 1318.