Open 112: Gurgi EC8 - Game Over, before 725

[scotmany12]

I think I stated why I feel my shanba vote was justified. He was not playing like a weak cop. Town powerroles claim their night actions, even if it is obvious.

[scotmany12]

Maybe

I haven't formed a solid opinion

yet? I

don't know which one of you

are scum,

if I was leaning one way I would have said so.

Why you are so obsessed over that harmless question confuses me. You say you are leaning towards me as scum KMD, how bout you tell me why?

More importantly,

Shanba is scum.

Why you might ask? Why would he not be voting right now? He claimed weak cop, and said when he claimed that jd was clear. So obviously, with him being alive, he had to have investigated which ever one of us is town. If he was the weak cop like he claimed, he would know who the scum are.

Vote: Shanba

This progression seems off...

The realization that shanba claimed weak cop came to me midpost. That is why the jump in opinion is there.

[Kmd4390]

Maybe

I haven't formed a solid opinion

yet? I

don't know which one of you

are scum,

if I was leaning one way I would have said so.

Why you are so obsessed over that harmless question confuses me. You say you are leaning towards me as scum KMD, how bout you tell me why?

More importantly,

Shanba is scum.

Why you might ask? Why would he not be voting right now? He claimed weak cop, and said when he claimed that jd was clear. So obviously, with him being alive, he had to have investigated which ever one of us is town. If he was the weak cop like he claimed, he would know who the scum are.

Vote: Shanba

This progression seems off...

The realization that shanba claimed weak cop came to me midpost. That is why the jump in opinion is there.

Why were you so confident in that? If you were wrong, I would have hammered for a scum win.

[scotmany12]

Maybe

I haven't formed a solid opinion

yet? I

don't know which one of you

are scum,

if I was leaning one way I would have said so.

Why you are so obsessed over that harmless question confuses me. You say you are leaning towards me as scum KMD, how bout you tell me why?

More importantly,

Shanba is scum.

Why you might ask? Why would he not be voting right now? He claimed weak cop, and said when he claimed that jd was clear. So obviously, with him being alive, he had to have investigated which ever one of us is town. If he was the weak cop like he claimed, he would know who the scum are.

Vote: Shanba

This progression seems off...

The realization that shanba claimed weak cop came to me midpost. That is why the jump in opinion is there.

Why were you so confident in that? If you were wrong, I would have hammered for a scum win.

I was extremely confident in it. I'm not sure how I'm suppose to answer this question. I thought him not claiming a night choice meant he was not the weak cop that he claimed.

[Kmd4390]

Not sure who to vote. I'll probably take some time to think about it.

[UltimaAvalon]

Vote Count

Scotmany12 - 1 (Shanba)
Shanba - 1 (Scot
Kmd4390 - 0

Not Voting - kmd

[Kmd4390]

Vote Scotmany12

Did we win?

[Shanba]

I won't ruin the suspense.

[Kmd4390]

I won't ruin the suspense.

Seriously?

[Kmd4390]

Shanba, you were scum, weren't you?

[Shanba]

Ok, yeah I was. Sorry kmd.

[Kmd4390]

Nicely played...

[Shanba]

Thank you, but I'm not that happy with my play this game.

Hell, let's go and do the postgame feelings thing now.

This game was ugly. I mean, the whole thing felt like a tussle. If it were a fight, it would be two big lads down the pub wrestling on the ground, rather than two master swordsmen giving an exhibition, if you see what I mean. The game was constantly stalled, and never had much real momentum except coming into the end.

Day 1, after I disappeared, I thought I was scum with Gurgi. No joke. The whole day I was bussing Gurgi, and then he came up town, which kinda threw me for a loop. Day 2 I then played poorly, especially with regards to actually bussing prozac, which I did clumsily, at best. Thankfully, both possible mislynches played similarly scummily around that lynch, so I got out of jail a bit there.

Scotmany picked up on an inconsistency in the "scotmany is town, KMD is an anomaly" -> "you're both super freaking scummy" thing. The latter was my true feelings. I decided to soften it, which was a mistake. I don't like lying any more than I have to as scum, because so often you end up eating your own words.

I don't think his point about the weak cop thing was strong, though, as I knew perfectly well I had claimed weak cop, but eh. I couldn't really

say

that, though, so my defence to him was basically to try and throw up a massive cloud of smoke. Actually, day 3, after the little bit of questioning of scot, was basically an attempt to cloud the issue in words, because I knew I smelt of cowpats if anyone looked hard.

I maintain the question coming straight into day looked nervous and a little unsure, which reads as scummy to me, even if it wasn't in actuality. I had avoided making the first post for precisely that reason: I never know how to start a day. I hate making the first post in a day, as town or as scum.

I'm shocked no one ever put 2 and 2 together and realised that flameaxe obviously targeted me. The only one not to hypocop, and me the only unclaimed target. I thought I was sunk at that point, hence the short, uninformative nature of my posts early day 2, where my primary concern was that no one should even look at me. A mistaken tactic, but a natural one.

Claiming weak cop was an off the cuff thing. I looked, saw no one else had claimed, looked to see that I'd hypocopped jd, decided I didn't mind clearing JD plus if I got lynched then kmd would see that as a massive connection. Win-win, really.

[Porochaz]

Yeah I didnt understand why noone auto assumed BBM targeted you.

I played badly and very sketchily, not my usual play but I found it hard to get into this game and kmds fixation with BBM only made things more boring for me.

[JDodge]

If Scot is town, the Shanba vote was ballsy.

If Shanba is scum, he's played a flawless game.

Probably gonna vote Scot...

diediedie

Not voting Poro compared to Shanba voting Poro first.

It's called "bussing".

Yeah I didnt understand why noone auto assumed BBM targeted you.

I played badly and very sketchily, not my usual play but I found it hard to get into this game and kmds fixation with BBM only made things more boring for me.

I DID

then forgot completely

JD's thoughts:

Note that I never really suspected KMD; I still feel that had we lynched him instead of Gurgi D1, town would have had a much better chance of winning (mostly because he's one of the worst players I've ever seen, and I played in BM's first game). But, D2 hit and I was sort of forced to keep up appearances - the unintended side effect being catching Prozac out and having enough info by day's end to seriously suspect Shanba. Unfortunately I made the mistakes of:

- Not pointing out the BBM likely targeted Shanba thing on the basis that BBM is BBM and likely wasn't paying attention, then forgetting this fact completely
- Forgetting to note my suspicions of Shanba
- Trusting KMD to make a good decision without any influence whatsoever

That being said, scot did a really poor job of defending himself from KMD's line of questioning. Nicely played, Shanba.

[Kmd4390]

Thanks for the kind words JDodge. Exactly what I expected.

Really though, you realized that Flameaxe targetted Shanba, you were suspicious of Shanba, and you never mentioned either of these things. Interesting...

[JDodge]

Thanks for the kind words JDodge. Exactly what I expected.

Really though, you realized that Flameaxe targetted Shanba, you were suspicious of Shanba, and you never mentioned either of these things. Interesting...

My hand was kind of forced when we retardedly lynched Flimsy on D1, a wagon I ironically started.

[Shanba]

Thanks for the kind words JDodge. Exactly what I expected. :D

Really though, you realized that Flameaxe targetted Shanba, you were suspicious of Shanba, and you never mentioned either of these things. Interesting...

Actually, he did suspect me. He told me over AIMchat after he died that I was obvscum :P

[Kmd4390]

Thanks for the kind words JDodge. Exactly what I expected.

Really though, you realized that Flameaxe targetted Shanba, you were suspicious of Shanba, and you never mentioned either of these things. Interesting...

My hand was kind of forced when we

retardedly

lynched Flimsy on D1, a wagon

I ironically started.

Forced how?

[Kmd4390]

Thanks for the kind words JDodge. Exactly what I expected.

Really though, you realized that Flameaxe targetted Shanba, you were suspicious of Shanba, and you never mentioned either of these things. Interesting...

Actually, he did suspect me. He told me over AIMchat after he died that I was obvscum

And never said so in thread...

[Shanba]

Anyone who could fathom the working's of Jdodge's mind would deserve some kind of medal. He's just a sort of wind up anger machine with a massive ego.

[Kmd4390]

Anyone who could fathom the working's of Jdodge's mind would deserve some kind of medal. He's just a sort of wind up anger machine with a massive ego.

I've noticed.

"You won Survivor because of me!"

LOL

[scotmany12]

Blah, not happy with my play. I disagree with my comment at the beginning of the day being scummy; shanba only made it appear scummy (so gj there shanba). Anyways, I was never really into this game until this last day, I should have said something about bbm (I noticed that too, just never mentioned it, my fault). I really don't know how else I would have defended myself against KMD.

[Kmd4390]

JDodge: Why no random votes?

Kmd: Why violate your own scumtells?

A higher state of being is the requirement for enlightenment.

Let's all help Jdodge transcend to a higher state of being. By lynching him.

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Can I ask what this was? I originally saw it as a very clever cop breadcrumb.

[Kmd4390]

JDodge: Why no random votes?

Kmd: Why violate your own scumtells?

A higher state of being is the requirement for enlightenment.

Let's all help Jdodge transcend to a higher state of being. By lynching him.

0118 999 881 999 119 725

Can I ask what this was? I originally saw it as a very clever cop breadcrumb.

Weak cop obviously...