Chosen (a Cafftown actually won!)

[Nuwen]

/in, I should be around all day.

[Nuwen]

Still /in on this.

[Nuwen]

/confirm

Spamposts!

[Nuwen]

crywolf20084

Geeeup wagon, GO.

And because I want pizza.

[Nuwen]

Vote: crywolf20084

There we go. Need moar coffee.

[Nuwen]

AND I AM SENDING YOUR PIZZA RIGHT NOW NUWEN

Obvscum trying to buy votes.

[Nuwen]

So what's wrong with L-2 if we're all coordinated enough not to quick lynch?

9 posts between me looking at the thread and my post coming through.

Unvote

. Do you trust every player in this thread to meticulously preview prior to posting?

[Nuwen]

Do we know when chosen one dies? I assume no, but will be revealed to all?

Does it matter?

Yes. If 2:2 occurs with the chosen one still alive, both town players decide who is vanilla and lynch 'em to win.

[Nuwen]

@tajo: it becomes a stronger scum tell the longer you stay alive. Wouldn't you agree?

I dont see why not.

Then please explain to the class why you felt the need to justify your existence before the game began.

You're taking a statement proposed in jest and turning it into a tell?

If someone had said "CLAIMING SCUM NOW GUYS" during the confirmation stage, would you be pursuing a case on him or her as well?

[Nuwen]

OK, we're lynching tajo today.

OK, we're lynching tajo today.

If I vote for him will you take all responsibility for my vote?

I am pretty sure I am the chosen one.

Found our scum pair, guys.

"Pretty sure" cannot be any surer than random, unless you're part of our ickle informed minority.

[Nuwen]

Do you frequently vote for things you don't understand over things you think are scummy?

What appears scummy in this game to you, Primate?

[Nuwen]

I don't like tajo's vote on the Primate wagon, otherwise it appears fine. Not hopping on yet, moar postings first.

[Nuwen]

Except I dont think Primate is scum.
FAIL.

Yet you placed a vote on him anyway, because you're "still in RVS?"

The game progressed out of RVS awhile ago. An explained vote is extremely anti-town.

[Nuwen]

See why we're lynching tajo, everyone?

You're still not out of hot water.

Good wagons material happened

after

your vote hit Tajo, not before.

[Nuwen]

What exactly has crywolf done this game?

Been an easy target for a scum-powered lurker+parrot case, as per her meta.

[Nuwen]

What exactly has crywolf done this game?

What have you done?????

This is the first post I've seen from you for a while. Still getting that pizza or have you thought of another reason to lurk and coast?

Um dude. I've posted every page. Go look back Srsly.

Someone is going to quote this and say "posted WHAT though?" and then start a wagon.

[Nuwen]

wait so why doesnt the chosen just claim, it's a confirmed townie that cant be nightkilled

The chosen is unaware of his or her identity.

[Nuwen]

LOVING MY LAGGY COLLEGE NET.

[Nuwen]

Def leaning towards an OGML + Tajo pair. Early bus, hoping a case would build itself against Tajo. Now either one is feeling out a pushable wagon on null tells and neutral play; Tajo is actually contradicting his obvtown read from a page ago, based on an obvpressure vote.

[Nuwen]

Def leaning towards an OGML + Tajo pair. Early bus, hoping a case would build itself against Tajo. Now either one is feeling out a pushable wagon on null tells and neutral play; Tajo is actually contradicting his obvtown read from a page ago, based on an obvpressure vote.

Wait, what happened to me to lose my obvtown powers?

* Your obvtown read on Hohum. You just nixed it based on a pressure vote, which was removed after Xsjhadsjashd came back to the game.

[Nuwen]

sounds good but you seem to show less commitment to your opinions like you are on the sidelines

<<gut feel

I'm trying to decide which one is a better lynch today.

Vote: OGML

. An independent case against him is much stronger than one against Tajo right now. Let's see he flips. Most of my suspicion in Tajo's direction depends on OGML being scum.

[Nuwen]

you are playing a bunch of games right now yes?

Nein, just backreading a bit.

[Nuwen]

Not buying the OGML case.

Why is Primate being given a free pass?

I mentioned something about an OGML/Primate pair a few pages back. If Primate and OGML are scum, then I'd assume OGML's focus on Tajo makes him the chosen.

[Nuwen]

charter - Less town than hohum
crywolf20084 - obvtown, she's much more cautious about her usual lurking and light banter when playing scum, since it attracts a lot of attention
hohum - More town than hohum
Nuwen Hi!
OhGodMyLife - scum with Tajo/Primate
PokerFace - Still neutral.
populartajo - posscum with OGML
Primate - posscum with OGML or Shadowlurker
ShadowLurker - posscum with Primate

Primate <-> Shadowlurker connection is based solely on voting patterns.

[Nuwen]

charter - Less town than hohum
crywolf20084 - obvtown, she's much more cautious about her usual lurking and light banter when playing scum, since it attracts a lot of attention
hohum - More town than Charter
OhGodMyLife - scum with Tajo/Primate
PokerFace - Still neutral.
populartajo - posscum with OGML
Primate - posscum with OGML or Shadowlurker
ShadowLurker - posscum with Primate

Primate <-> Shadowlurker connection is based solely on voting patterns.

EDWOP, typo'd majorly a few times

[Nuwen]

hohum is more town than hohum! NEAT!!!

Hush. Cold fingers.

TIME PARADOX.

[Nuwen]

Primate <-> Shadowlurker connection is based solely on voting patterns.

Yes I decided to follow my scum partner's voting immediately upon replacing in

And then responded with sarcastic WIFOM. You really aren't helping yourself out here.

[Nuwen]

Nuwen reserve vs tajo and ogml when tajo has more votes seems faked like he is trying to draw people off tajo.

I've seen two possible pairings that include OGML, and only one with Tajo. Statistically, OGML is the optimal vote for the pairs I put out there.

[Nuwen]

I still don't know what to make of PokerFace.

[Nuwen]

Are you scum, Korejora?

[Nuwen]

Are you scum, Korejora?

How is this even remotely helpful?

It could have totally worked. Really.

I actually agree with Tajo's towntells on Shadowlurker, which eliminates my SL/Primate pair.

[Nuwen]

Still not liking the wagon on PF.

I think OGML is slightly more likely to flip scum than Tajo (with his partner being Primate). But we can use Tajo as a science pig.

Vote: Tajo

[Nuwen]

Great. Let's lynch OGML/Korejora or Tajo now.

[Nuwen]

I really don't like either of these posts, especially because the wagon on PF was bankrupt of any real foundation.

FYI All, I would consider moving onto PF so we don't end up with no lynch.

I'd support a PF lynch to avoid a no-lynch. We're getting pretty close to deadline, no?

Hohum's play on day 1 seemed to come from a sloppy, zealous town player though, while Primate's day 1 activity was far scummier.

I say this as someone who will not vote tajo fyi

OK, we're lynching tajo today.

If I vote for him will you take all responsibility for my vote?

OGML, Tajo, Primate <- our scum pair is in here somewhere.

[Nuwen]

cry's day one unvote of primate was sheepish and scummy, and her deadline pf vote was terrible. and in general she's been active lurking like crazy.

I still think this is pretty standard Crywolf play. The same accusations were brought up day 1, and she didn't respond with an overcompensation onslaught. I think her scum play is more self-conscious than what I'm seeing.

Total gut read though.

[Nuwen]

Vote hohum

Seriously, why has Primate been getting away with this type of crap?

Vote: Primate

[Nuwen]

So Andy hasn't said anything worth while IMO

VOTE: ANDY

seriously? this is not scumhunting, this is ad hom.

more crywolf votes please.

nuwen, stop defending her based entirely on meta.

Hey, I said it was gut.

I'm more concerned about the OMGUS there.

[Nuwen]

Vote hohum

Seriously, why has Primate been getting away with this type of crap?

Vote: Primate

Because I'm blatantly town?

Continue to posture based on poor reasoning though. No, it's fine, seriously.

Your idea of being blatantly Pro-town includes caseless voting?

Calling Charter+Hohum

Still behind this pairing? Why Hohum over Charter today. Yesterday you were pegging Charter until your vote switched to PF.

[Nuwen]

Whaaaa three simul posts..

Hey, I said it was gut.

I'm more concerned about the OMGUS there.

who's OMGUS??

Yours. I have a deviant definition of OMGUS that includes responsive pressure voting, because it tends to be a vapid cover for a baseless vote.

[Nuwen]

I'm willing to switch to Cry but we should be lynching hohum today.

You sure do waffle a lot. You did this yesterday too when you were convinced we had to get rid of Tajo but you were "willing to switch to PF." Now you're not even concerned about the former.

Do your voting patterns typically contain this much WIFOM?

Pay attention, he said something like "Tajo is prob town" late yesterday.

[Nuwen]

We aren't lynching Crywolf today, guys.

Vote: Andycyca

[Nuwen]

Can we lynch Hohum now?

No, as he's obviously the chosen.

I'm claiming vanilla and we're lynching me.

[Nuwen]

I've been completely unwagoned straight into day 3. Either one of our scum pair is going to come up with a brilliant case and get me lynched in an hour, or Primate's infatuation with Hohum makes him the Chosen.

[Nuwen]

You'd lose the game, but at least it ends it quicker then i can swear at you all when proven right.

We won't lose if we lynch vanilla, and there's very little reason to believe that you're the Chosen. Even if my Andy/Tajo + Primate hypothesis is incorrect, you can lynch the leftover vanilla (read: Not Hohum) tomorrow in the same situation that I outlined above.

Vote: Primate

[Nuwen]

WTF? How does Nuwen know that she isnt the chosen one?
Slip?

Hunch, just because any ground material for my lynch is absent. Ditto for Charter.

In a marathon style game, there isn't a ton of opportunity or material to backread and build cases on. In order to be playing optimally, one or both of our scum pair should have been pushing for the chosen's lynch at opportune times on days one and two.

Why the fuck havent we lynched hohum yet?

I know, so we should be lynching the scum, who is Hohum.

My best bet would be Primate and Hohum, but I haven't done reading Hohum yet...

Still behind this pairing? Why Hohum over Charter today. Yesterday you were pegging Charter until your vote switched to PF.

I haven't really through charter was scum since I unvoted him. I like his attitude better.

With the cherry on top,

Then who do you think is scum?

I still dont know. I think you and hohum are town.[/quote]

Distancing from any wagon in Hohum's direction + casual town confirmation for his partner. I realize that this is a two-directional analysis, but I really don't have the time to properly backread and splice every post.

[Nuwen]

Is it better to lynch town today? There's three townies, so 33% chance of loss, whereas if we kill mafia, then it's a 50% chance of loss tomorrow...

Don't bother with percentages. Here is what needs to happen for town to win:

1. We lynch scum or a vanilla townie today
2. We lynch scum or a vanilla townie tomorrow

Basically, town wins as long as we don't lynch the guy the prominent scum pair is telling us to lynch.

[Nuwen]

GL ya mooks.

So I'm bad at Mafia. Whoops.

Gotta be tajo, that was an obvious scumploy

Tajo lynch, then?

[Nuwen]

Actually, I still think the correct play here is to self-hammer.

It doesn't really matter which one of you is scum or the chosen. Neither of you are trying to lynch me.

[Nuwen]

I'm never playing mafia again if I'm wrong again here.

Vote: Nuwen

[Nuwen]

Actually, I still think the correct play here is to self-hammer.

It doesn't really matter which one of you is scum or the chosen. Neither of you are trying to lynch me.

Explain please.

I believe one of you is the chosen and the other is scum, since both of you are obviously trying to get the other lynched. If that's correct, suiciding wins the game for town.

And I want a cigarette.

[Nuwen]

Kay. That means that if I vote for you we win?
Cool!

I should already be dead, since a self-vote at L-2 equals two votes, and only three plays are alive.

Ether?

[Nuwen]

I'd love to try this setup again in normal time, when I actually can think before spewing crap.

Thanks for modding, Ether.

[Nuwen]

I'd love to try this setup again in normal time, when I actually can think before spewing crap.

Thanks for modding, Ether.

I will be running this set-up through the mini theme queue actually.

Excellent.