@Kill-kill
1. Yes because ignoring those questions and "playing anti-town" is another argument against Cain if he doesn't answer them. I don't see how questioning would not be beneficial in your case against Cain, not questioning him is much worse in my opinion.
2. Since you gave out his meta, had you considered that he might be inexperienced in general? Yes his posts are weird and have a sense of scumminess, but as you said he only posted 3 things so far. I can't make a strong read off him just on 3 posts, but your recent statements:
"I did. I feel he is inexperienced scum. Do you have any reason to believe that he is not scum?"
Show a sense of bias against him.
3. I dislike your methods right now which is why I'm questioning your intent. When I do an ISO read this is how it goes:
ISO 0: RVS Vote
ISO 1: Your joking statements on the town reads as of so far. While you did do a partial IIoA rehash on this post, but you did weigh in on your thoughts here on each point. +towniness
ISO 2: Interesting response to Nik's question, though I dislike the fact that you didn't do this summary post until after you were called on it.
ISO 3: This is where you gave the meta information and point your finger at: your top 3 are hohum, nik and me (one is scum). Next is Cain for his odd play and Toro for his tunneling. I note the fact that you haven't gone for the top picks and went straight for Cain. Here you take into account Cain's inexperience to mafia but later condemn it.
ISO 4: Your argument, while true, the problem is Cain is inexperienced in general. It's a double standard to assume Cain's one game with you would assume that Cain's town actions would play along your pro-town scenario. It might be obvious for a lot of players that you should follow up on your vote, but you are applying this argument on the guy who fake-claimed scum. Until more posts are given I'm willing to just
IGMIOY: Cain
and take notes as things develop. It doesn't clear Cain's actions, but I'm more lenient to give him the benefit of the doubt till he makes more effort to explain himself. Also I would prefer to keep a noob townie then a pro-scum player at the end of the day.
ISO 5 and ISO 6 are me calling you out after the giant walls of posts were done. The issue: you read to reply back to me quite quickly but had nothing to contribute to the current debate going on.
I get a sense that your posts reads as person going for the easy target, rather then actively trying to scum hunt. You have a large lists of people to be considered scum and a small list of weak townie links. It just feels off when you aren't expanding on which of those links are true or not.
4. Your Scott statement is interesting, can you point out more on this case?
5. Your statements on the townies I agree with your point but some issues are there:
a. I don't quite understand how Toro fits into a more townie scenario then the rest of the list. Your busing argument is WIFOM, so it is a weak reason to state. You assume too much when you say they can't be on the same faction (it looks unlikely but yes too soon), nor does it excludes the potential for Toro being on a different scum faction.
It reads as bias on someone who agrees with you and should go after Cain since he is the other person who wants to investigate him more.
b. Cow's anti-wishy-washy statements were done a while ago (see end of page 5 start of page 6). While his point is valid can you elaborate on how Has' recent activities support his township?
c. Can you elaborate why Zazier is just a null tell. I personally see him null possibly leaning townie since he's been producing some results with his wall posts, but dislike some parts of his arguments as I outlined in my posts.
Mod: Can we prod Cain and get an Updated Vote count?
. That being said, Cain is obviously number one, and after that would be Scott. He hasn't contributed much, merely picked at what others are doing. My opinion of him is scum looking for the other faction.
