Mafia 101 - Mafia Dodgeball: GAME OVER

[CooLDoG]

first I was not lurking because of this I was because I had one or two back-to back bussy days, this should not happen again.
my los:

scum:
Ray, as we know he made some very erratic votes even after KMD made his case agents me. He always keeps saying that he already answered to it that they were random votes.
A)why then did he change?
B)why did he himself say they were both OMGUS
C)why does he not admit it now?
Tubby, one for being a self-absorbed buffoon, but maybe that is just him… He also plays like he might be the sk or some other anti town power role. I think he would make a good target also because he did lurk for a while.
Lowell: very few posts, and the he not scum any way post.

might not be scum but not pro town:

milk: DUDE YOU HAVE A REALLY BAD CASE OF TV! you may try to avoid it but every time you link to the wiki and you actually read what it says, you match it almost word for word. Have yet to comment on ray, or any one else really for that matter. you have posted no content and have been a die hard “lynch bub, plz! I’ll dance…”. this guy will be a liability in the late game.
bub: for making no logical sense in his posts. Almost none make sense, maybe this is because you are being distracted by the turd above (:lol:).
Snow, moh, alvin, death, and ~jor, all for lurking for a time and some of their posts make no sense whatsoever. However SB seems to be “warming up” as of late so… actually I will shift SB to the next catigory.
and the other lurkers whom I am slightly to lazy to look up: for lurking.

might be town:
dramonic, making some good posts but still not contributing as much as the should.
Snow: for making some good posts resently
dry-fit, making good posts contributing, posts make sence, but needs to step up more.

very pro town: KMD, and Vi are some of the only ones whom have been actually scum hunting, you guys need to keep bringing the heat not cooling down!

as for me: I will hopefully use these as talking points for accusations agents the people on this version of my LOS. Also this is all I could come up with over lunch, so hope you like it :p

and just for the record, confirm vote ray

[Plum]

Vote Count 08

RayFrost -

7

- tubby216, Kmd4390, Lowell, dramonic, imaginality, Hayker, CooLDoG
Bub Bidderskins - 2 - milkshake, MafiaSSK
tubby216 - 2 - Sajin, manho,
alvinz95 - 2 - RayFrost, Snow_Bunny
milkshake - 3 - Vi, Bub Bidderskins, Dry-fit,
Snow_Bunny - 1 - alvinz95,

Not Voting (3): ZazieR, DeathNote, ~Jordan`,

With 20 Players alive it'll take 11 votes to pound someone into the wall.
With 20 Players alive it'll take 10 votes to call for a peaceful water break.

FWOOOOOOOMP

I think I got it right this time. Please continue pointing out to me any errors in the Vote Count. Thanks!

[~Jordan`]

So at last you see the light. So now you quite arguing with me because you realize that everything you had to argue on was "Dust in the Wind" so to speak. I feel as if constantly going after a single individual throughout the entire day phase isn't exactly pro-town. So, with that in mind, I'd like to unvote, vote: milkshake. All he's done is bring up arguments that have already been used and shot down.

Oh, wow... haha, ok... so, what do people think about lynching Bub? I'm taking him a little too seriously perhaps... or?

Hm. Milkshake is new, has been acting new the whole game, and this is 1ofmany newb tactics. This is exemplified when he begins to doubt himself.

When you say you were talking to me, do you mean

I

have been doing that, or milkshake has? If milkshake, this is true.

If I were to vote for him, I'd feel like a hypocrite and worthy of vote.

The argument is not strong enough against him to gain my vote. It's getting there, however..

[dramonic]

The case on milk is seriously blown out of proportion...

[Vi]

@dramonic: No it's not.

My

choice is now cut down to

[tubby and RayFrost]

.

We

need to make a choice, town.

[MafiaSSK]

The case on RF is seriously blown out of proportion...

Fixed

[Kmd4390]

You ignored the bit about the order of my list.

I didn't ignore it, I just don't see how it changes things.

Even if "general consensus" puts people as scummy, that does not dictate how scummy "general consensus" finds each person individually, so to say I match the "general consensus" would require you to explain how I match "general consensus" on how scummy each player is, or your case on my matching "general consensus" is rather weak and reaching.

No. Wrong. Just. Stop talking. Well, don't because lurking is bad, but still.

You suspect the most widely suspected players. I don't care who you suspect

more

. I don't care

how much

you suspect anyone. The fact is you suspect all of the players who have been wagoned in this game.

I think you need to put a banana, ice cream, and milk into the same cup and blend it together. *has never worked fast food*

I've worked fast food. You put the cup in the holder and push the button and the shake pours into the cup.

...seriously? The major reason I'm leaning toward you-Town is because you-scum would have more sense than to cling to this kind of terrible argument.

Why is scum more likely to make a better argument than town?

[~Jordan`]

@dramonic: No it's not.

My

choice is now cut down to

[tubby and RayFrost]

.

We

need to make a choice, town.

?? i have a vote and a say, do I not?

[Vi]

I've worked fast food. You put the cup in the holder and push the button and the shake pours into the cup.

That seems like cheating...

...seriously? The major reason I'm leaning toward you-Town is because you-scum would have more sense than to cling to this kind of terrible argument.

Why is scum more likely to make a better argument than town?

Scum want to avoid being lynched.
Town more wants to be right.

@Jordan: Correct. However, telling us that we

need

to decide between two people and set any other suspicions aside isn't kosher.

[alvinz95]

2x vote = reinforcement; used alot if you play alot.

Rayfrost = dumbass

Alvinz, you either admitted to being an active lurker (Scummy) or are suspicious of me due to OMGUS (scummy). Either way, thank you for displaying your scumminess

Check my posts.

active lurking = active elsewhere, not here; not me

Snow_bunny - more bs. Tubby's behavoir is ridiculously antitown that just quotes is adequate. Post 3 no sense. Post 1-2, reinforcement duh. Post 4, hey that all.
Lets go over your argument: I don't post. Wow you are good.

Rayfrost/Snow_bunny hey I caught them both.

Unvote, Vote: Snowbunny

Attempt at being active, yet terrible at hunting. Scum hunt for lurkers. "I don't like that, and I find it extremely scummy. And for that he has my vote"

No Rayfrost? No good scum, worthless

No tubby? Noob town possible

One thing is a lurker, another thing is a player who thinks that by quoting is giving enough explanation of its votes. Also, your anger says nothing good from you. And yes, Tubby is antitown, but so are you. And thus, I decided to vote for you, not for him.

More:

Snow_bunny,

Why not tubby? He actually admitted he was going to coast through the game, as demonstrated by the QUOTES I posted. I have already have reasons; I'm NEVER active in games (meta), I've been BUSY, I haven't been posting around (you're in my 2nd game dammit).

There happy yall? I posted a lil more. I go back to minimal post.

F&cking lynch this scum

If you are never active, why do you play? Geez, what's wrong with players these days! In all games I'm playing there's at least one player who just don't want to play the game, yet keep playing.

Hey, new theory.

So, let me see if I get this right:
1- You don't want to contribute at all, you're just waiting for any of them to be lynched.
2- You are happy to push the RF lynch just because (it was a random vote at first, so no real bases to vote for him)
3- And you want us to believe that you are town after that? Right...

Why is scum so obvious this days?

Then NO VOTE ON TUBBY? Scumbuddy.

3 scum in the pot. Bus on tubby, obvious bud tubby.

At that time I was happy with my vote where it was.

But, seeing as you just turned to be more scummy than all the others suspects, I voted for you. Seems someone is angry because they have to play the game!

Or worst, seems like someone is angry because is under attack. Poor little baby. Grow up. As far as I remember, you can suspect of as many players as you want, and even more if you have bases. What you can't do, though, is having your vote in more than one place.

I am voting for you, because so far you are the scummiest, and I want to see you lynched.

Nevertheless, that doesn't discard my previous suspects, and if necessary,

I'll switch my vote back to then

. But now, I'm happy with an alvinz lynch.

Let's do him that favor. Let's relieve him from the charge that is a mafia game.

hahahaha, your response comes down to patronizing with nothing useful.

look now you've added how I'm ANGRY, now I must be scum!
Guess what? You didn't even refute a single claim! Gee, nice hunting there. "You're the scummiest" Thats your case now?

Give me a nice bulletlist of reasons why i am scum.

That'll clarify loads of things (or show yourself how bad of a case you're trying to sell).

Ok, so you're saying Bub had a better case than Tubby. Tubby's behavior is all what you said in your argument against me (read the quotes, do you REALLY want me to explain them?), yet worse, so I'll say
Tubby > alvinz95.
So the logic is Bub > Tubby > alvinz95, yet you vote me.
Pathetic. This is too easy.

What really strikes me is when Scum_bunny said that "if necessary, I'll switch votes" Vote hopping, bandwagoning? Scum, omfg this is too easy.

No way did I say I want to leave this game, this is appeal on emotion now. You're bringing non game related things into your argument.

Why Scum_bunny is scum:
-Case on me is based on voting twice (emphasis, duh)
-Case on me is based on not contributing (I am, I already found the scum, but don't be surprised, i'm alvinz95)
-Case on me is based on not posting (hey, I'm alvinz95, I'm busy)
-Case on me is based on staying under the radar (I would say I'm not under the radar now)
-Case on me is because I'm being a bitchy angry scummer (haha whatever)
His case is bogus, 100% fake. Tubby has the same reasons that are worse, yet no vote? Claims Bub had a better argument than Tubby. Scum love targeting lurkers to push an easy case, not so easy anymore huh?
Scum_bunny has also said he would wagon/vote hop.

Vote: Snow_ball

(are you going to add this to your case?)

Yeah I sound like an asshat, but really this is the interwebz, I duncare.

[tubby216]

I've worked fast food. You put the cup in the holder and push the button and the shake pours into the cup.

That seems like cheating...

...seriously? The major reason I'm leaning toward you-Town is because you-scum would have more sense than to cling to this kind of terrible argument.

Why is scum more likely to make a better argument than town?

Scum want to avoid being lynched.
Town more wants to be right.

@Jordan: Correct. However, telling us that we

need

to decide between two people and set any other suspicions aside isn't kosher.

agreed vi,

and FTR at hardee's we diud the ice cream+milk+banana=milkshake

[tubby216]

@alvinz

hey asshat yur makin sense on da webz thar

unvote, vote snowbunny

however i am still watchin ray

[alvinz95]

@alvinz

hey asshat yur makin sense on da webz thar

unvote, vote snowbunny

however i am still watchin ray

Love the bus, but keep your vote, you're helping the town. You are going down eventually. Saying how you play the best in endgame is ridiculous.

[RayFrost]

yayz, alvinz is posting.

unvote

re cooldog:

I have not denied that I did OMGUS votes. I'm denying (and have continually done so) that the votes were

serious

. They were OMGUS Random Votes. If you can't tell from the fact I

blatantly

said as much, then you really should pay more attention. So...

Q1 : which change are you asking about? the one from (OMGUS) on tubby to bub or from you to tubby?

Q2 : I said they were OMGUS cuz they were Random Votes.

Q3 : I do admit it. That's just not what people are asking about. Misrep noted.

re kmd: so... I'm suspecting the suspicious people. Gee, that makes me obv. scum doesn't it.

If you go down that route (of finding suspecting the wagoned people scummy), CDG is doing the same (suspecting bub & me and just now starting to suspect milkshake

after Vi shows suspicions

), but his is just not as obvious is it?

Note: I bet you are going to say that's deflecting. Me saying it's not is probably just going to lead you to saying it is, and this note will make the repercussions worse, but I'm still putting it here.

[Vi]

and FTR at hardee's we diud the ice cream+milk+banana=milkshake

Ah yes, I remember that now.
It's a shame Hardees doesn't use real ice cream any more IIRC.

yayz, alvinz is posting.

unvote

That was easy
Why not vote someone else, then?

[tubby216]

@alvinz

hey asshat yur makin sense on da webz thar

unvote, vote snowbunny

however i am still watchin ray

Love the bus, but keep your vote, you're helping the town. You are going down eventually. Saying how you play the best in endgame is ridiculous.

really check my games i have called them all correctly every endgame i was in minus two. hell ask Vi he has seen them.

but lest focus and lynch snow here we can carry on this pissing match elsewhere

[~Jordan`]

Hm. I suppose. I'm not saying I wa4 gonna be stubborn and stick to those two, I was trying to say that they were my top 2 choices. Is that ok?

Hm..I'm on mobile right now so ill hold off on abything important till then. You know I haven't been involved in a single correct kill since I've started being a scummer?

I say this in hopes you won't consider my indecision superscummy. So yea; once I get to actual computer.

[RayFrost]

and FTR at hardee's we diud the ice cream+milk+banana=milkshake

Ah yes, I remember that now.
It's a shame Hardees doesn't use real ice cream any more IIRC.

yayz, alvinz is posting.

unvote

That was easy
Why not vote someone else, then?

voting somebody else would be a bother, and I'm weighing (well, trying to) the pros/cons of the cases put forth by alvinz/kmd/you.

as it is, I have a dentist appointment today, so yeah.

[Sajin]

@alvinz

hey asshat yur makin sense on da webz thar

unvote, vote snowbunny

however i am still watchin ray

Love the bus, but keep your vote, you're helping the town. You are going down eventually. Saying how you play the best in endgame is ridiculous.

really check my games i have called them all correctly every endgame i was in minus two. hell ask Vi he has seen them.

but lest focus and lynch snow here we can carry on this pissing match elsewhere

Why do your leet endgame skillz matter to us if your scum?

@KMD- Scum is not anymore likely to make a good argument then town in a general sense. Some people as scum alignment are though.

[tubby216]

really sajin?

open up your mind and let some thought inside

[~Jordan`]

@alvinz

hey asshat yur makin sense on da webz thar

unvote, vote snowbunny

however i am still watchin ray

Love the bus, but keep your vote, you're helping the town. You are going down eventually. Saying how you play the best in endgame is ridiculous.

really check my games i have called them all correctly every endgame i was in minus two. hell ask Vi he has seen them.

but lest focus and lynch snow here we can carry on this pissing match elsewhere

Why do your leet endgame skillz matter to us if your scum?

@KMD- Scum is not anymore likely to make a good argument then town in a general sense. Some people as scum alignment are though.

this.

It really seems we're just choosing which scum to lynch. I really don't get that. We could spend the day building more of a case against multiple scum, i suppose, since one of us will be dead tomorrow, but is that the only reason for continuing this?

So...

which scum

...still thinking.

[alvinz95]

Vote: Snow_bunny

Dammit look at the case, don't post crap.

[~Jordan`]

lol sorry. I have a bad habit of posting while im still in the thought process.

Snow Bunny's response seems hypocritical at best, and instead of defending herself, attacking you. I think thats chainsaw defense? Too lazy to check.

I personally think that those who have voted for snow bunny solely b/c of alvinz's response to snow-ball's defense are scum and bussing (that's the word, right?).

But now I see thats only tubby.

vote snow_ball

I feel hypocritical doing it, but I agree with alvinz's post, and am glad he's making those.

[Kmd4390]

That seems like cheating...

Well you don't even want to

know

how to make McCafe products then...

...seriously? The major reason I'm leaning toward you-Town is because you-scum would have more sense than to cling to this kind of terrible argument.

Why is scum more likely to make a better argument than town?

Scum want to avoid being lynched.
Town more wants to be right.

So you can't have a good argument if you want to be right?

re kmd: so... I'm suspecting the suspicious people. Gee, that makes me obv. scum doesn't it.

If you go down that route (of finding suspecting the wagoned people scummy), CDG is doing the same (suspecting bub & me and just now starting to suspect milkshake

after Vi shows suspicions

), but his is just not as obvious is it?

Note: I bet you are going to say that's deflecting. Me saying it's not is probably just going to lead you to saying it is, and this note will make the repercussions worse, but I'm still putting it here.

Not everyone who is widely suspected actually

is

scum. (Maybe we are an awesome town and they are, but it's unlikely) You aren't even attempting to find who is and who isn't. You pretty much say "yeah, they're all scummy, but look. MY LIST IS IN ORDER!! HURHURHUR"

I agree about CooL. Well, unless you are scum because of the deflection. I don't think you'd deflect to your buddy. (yes, I'm going to say that. you agreeing doesn't make it less true)

------

I like that alvinz is making himself cool this game. And Jordan shows us how he can wagon again. SCUM.

[Vi]

...seriously? The major reason I'm leaning toward you-Town is because you-scum would have more sense than to cling to this kind of terrible argument.

Why is scum more likely to make a better argument than town?

Scum want to avoid being lynched.
Town more wants to be right.

So you can't have a good argument if you want to be right?

Sometimes that's too much to ask

I'm actually talking about survival purposes when people start saying that your argument is garbage. I would expect scum to say "well okay maybesomethingelsegivemeamoment" while a Townsperson would be more likely to stick to it.
While that's more or less THE town-tell in his favor, I personally would rather have a milkshake or Snow_Bunny lynch.

I'm fairly positive I don't want to know anything that goes on producer-side at McDonald's~