Mafia #100 - Game Over

[GLaDOS]

... Processing ...

Snow White, I do not understand from your wiki page why you would investigate yourself on Night One as a Cop.

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I still think the optimal course of action here is to lynch hewitt today and to Vig Snow White tonight. If the game continues beyond that point, we can deal with it tomorrow. I am disinclined to believe a Cop would actually investigate Battle Mage on Night Three, the day after he led the town into lynching Benmage, and had in fact claimed Cop himself.

[DeathNote]

Assuming that SW is the roleblocker. Hewitt could very well be roleblocker instead meaning that you will not be messed with tonight.

I am perfectly fine with you lynching me tomorrow if SW is not scum. My results confirm she had to have killed him and thus I am 99% sure she is scum.

[hewitt]

Okay... the SW thing doesn't change much. Whoever sends in the kill actually performs said kill for the mafia team. Let's see... SW sends it in, BM gets watched... hmmm. Mafia doesn't have two kills, so hewitt can't kill me as mafia.

Whatddya know, it fits so well!

Also, I did claim who I was planning on killing N3. It was hewitt, and I stuck to it.

Chances of being jailkept are virtually none due to the pome doc flip from the start of the game.

Chances of insane cop are, again, virtually none, due to the BM cop flip.

SW & Hewitt are scum.

Lynch hewitt, and I'll

try

to kill SW, though I'll probably be RBed... again.

RayFrost your arrogance in assuming I'm scum is going to ruin us all.

[hewitt]

Assuming that SW is the roleblocker. Hewitt could very well be roleblocker instead meaning that you will not be messed with tonight.

I am perfectly fine with you lynching me tomorrow if SW is not scum. My results confirm she had to have killed him and thus I am 99% sure she is scum.

Can you be a roleblocker and still perform night kills? Because I'm confirmed a killing role (Vigilante) and if you can't then clearly Snow White is the scum who killed Battle Mage.

[DeathNote]

I don't think so, unless you are the last one alive. Hmm....


I could see Snow being the last member of a mafia faction and getting to roleblock and kill. This would through the rest of us off and draw suspicions to Hewitt so she can survive another night. Either way, I would like to lynch SW today and kill Hewitt tomorrow. If he lives, we simply lynch him and visa versa for SW. Thoughts?

[RayFrost]

Assuming that SW is the roleblocker. Hewitt could very well be roleblocker instead meaning that you will not be messed with tonight.

I am perfectly fine with you lynching me tomorrow if SW is not scum. My results confirm she had to have killed him and thus I am 99% sure she is scum.

Can you be a roleblocker and still perform night kills? Because I'm confirmed a killing role (Vigilante) and if you can't then clearly Snow White is the scum who killed Battle Mage.

ummm...

Mafia kill is mafia team's kill as a whole and just one kill.

RB is an individual mafia player's ability that can be used regardless of that.

Whoever sends in the kill does the deed.

Conclusion: I'll probably not die tonight and DN will. Hewitt will also just so happen to have "shot" me and failed.

Also, I should be convinced you are scum. You are, after all.

there is only reason for anybody to interfere:

saving a scum buddy

Thus, you are scum. Naturally, this logic could be extended to say that I'm scum in a reversal except for the fact you didn't claim that you were, in fact, going to kill me at all, while I actually did say you were going to get shot by me... repeatedly during D3.

[RayFrost]

I don't think so, unless you are the last one alive. Hmm....


I could see Snow being the last member of a mafia faction and getting to roleblock and kill. This would through the rest of us off and draw suspicions to Hewitt so she can survive another night. Either way, I would like to lynch SW today and kill Hewitt tomorrow. If he lives, we simply lynch him and visa versa for SW. Thoughts?

Problem: you aren't considering the two vig conundrum. (as far as you are concerned, there are two vigs for the time being).

Obviously, I'm going to try and shoot little hew-scum. Obviously, I'll probably get the RB slam put down on me.

Result: a kill on somebody and

hewitt still alive

.

I'm more sure of hew being scum than I am of SW, since both have fake claimed, but only one claimed

my role

.

y'gitme?

[DeathNote]

What I mean by kill Hewitt/SW tomorrow is at night via Ray's vig.


I really hope you are town Ray. ><

[RayFrost]

What I mean by kill Hewitt/SW tomorrow is at night via Ray's vig.


I really hope you are town Ray. ><

I'll probably get screwed over by a RB. We should all watch out for such things.

And no worries. Hewitt is scum. I am vig.

[DeathNote]

I don't think so, unless you are the last one alive. Hmm....


I could see Snow being the last member of a mafia faction and getting to roleblock and kill. This would through the rest of us off and draw suspicions to Hewitt so she can survive another night. Either way, I would like to lynch SW today and kill Hewitt tomorrow. If he lives, we simply lynch him and visa versa for SW. Thoughts?

Problem: you aren't considering the two vig conundrum. (as far as you are concerned, there are two vigs for the time being).

Obviously, I'm going to try and shoot little hew-scum. Obviously, I'll probably get the RB slam put down on me.

Result: a kill on somebody and

hewitt still alive

.

I'm more sure of hew being scum than I am of SW, since both have fake claimed, but only one claimed

my role

.

y'gitme?

I understand your point, but from my view, SW is more likely scum because I have night results that incriminate her.

However, our lynch order does not really matter. Either one could have the roleblock ability so it is a fifty-fifty shot that we will pick the right one and you not get RBed tonight, or Hewitt RBed (I like to keep my options open). I say we just pick one.

[GLaDOS]

... Processing ...

DeathNote makes some sense.

While it is theoeritically

possible

that hewitt is a Vigilante as he claims (though I very much doubt it: see my first post of the game), with DeathNote's claim it is pretty much

impossible

that Snow White is telling the truth. She has not contested that she targeted Battle Mage on Night Three, but has only contested that she has killing powers. And yet, Battle Mage has died despite apparently nobody else targeting (although I am unsure if DeathNote has confirmed whether he gets full lists, I think only receiving a partial list is bastard-modding).

Vote: Snow White

.

I don't really care about what process brings the result about, but both hewitt and Snow White need to die in some order.

[dramonic]

We have no proof that Hewitt isn't a RB

[Amished]

Unvote:
Vote: Snow White

[DeathNote]

Snow- I would respond soon.


Mod- Vote count please

Everyone- Don't hammer just yet as we want to make sure we have covered all our bases.

[DeathNote]

I have not received confirmation about my watcher role. X is not online right now, so it might be some time before I do, however, I assume that I would receive everyone.

[Snow White]

Hahaha. Relax DN. Your not making a mistake. The votes are quite called for, you've caught me.

Damn my not understanding the watcher role before i submitted that. Among other things, i should take note of where i place my fake bread crumbs. I think its fairly obvious i am scum at this point... i despise RayFrost at this point and the other mafia team who i assumed would too shoot BattleMage. Second doctor.

Well i was town initally... and i did leave crumbs. Such as

my traitorous ex boyfriend

and

Cairde please remove your vote

Cairde being friend in Irish. and lastly

traitor to the town

well that speaks for itself.

Id like to see town win.

Lastly, I must say well done BM who pegged me, hounded and persecuted me from day dot. Grrr...

/Consider this my Bah post. I neednt be returning till end game.

[dramonic]

Vote: SW

[DeathNote]

your... A mafia traitor? For what faction? Please say American then that would make Hewitt/Ray American as well which would mean... GG? Three mafia members for each faction.

[RayFrost]

Hahaha. Relax DN. Your not making a mistake. The votes are quite called for, you've caught me.

Damn my not understanding the watcher role before i submitted that. Among other things, i should take note of where i place my fake bread crumbs. I think its fairly obvious i am scum at this point... i despise RayFrost at this point and the other mafia team who i assumed would too shoot BattleMage. Second doctor.

Well... a full on claim is better than trying to get the rest to actually believe me just yet. *shrugs*

Also, why despise me for following up my claim that I'd shoot hewitt? =/

[Amished]

You would believe claimed scum? ......

[GLaDOS]

... Processing ...

Just reviewed Snow White's posts after seeing her Traitor claim. She told Black Jinx "cairde (aka 'friend') remove your vote" which unfortunately suggests she is a Traitor for the Sicilian Mafia.

As such,

Unvote: Snow White

. I really need to think about this. If we are dealing with 4 scum for each mafia group -- which I think is ridiculous for a 20 player game, but that might be the case anyways -- then lynching in the right order here could be crucial.

[Snow White]

Despise in the dramatic sense of the word silly! See post 1197 which basically told me ye'd all have me dead to rights regardless. And rightly so.

@Amished. No he means that he would try to convince you i were scum provided i could find my fake claims. ffs.

[Amished]

I was talking to DN.

[DeathNote]

... Processing ...

Just reviewed Snow White's posts after seeing her Traitor claim. She told Black Jinx "cairde (aka 'friend') remove your vote" which unfortunately suggests she is a Traitor for the Sicilian Mafia.

As such,

Unvote: Snow White

. I really need to think about this. If we are dealing with 4 scum for each mafia group -- which I think is ridiculous for a 20 player game, but that might be the case anyways -- then lynching in the right order here could be crucial.

Yes... this is what I was afraid of as well. She is a traitor, meaning that Sicilian has four people which means that there are two other possible mafia members out their excluding her. I am probably dead tonight. :/

[DeathNote]

You would believe claimed scum? ......

I already know she is scum before her claim. She has breadcrum traitor so why not believe her role. Either way, she is confirmed scum due to my watch on BM, and her now confession.