Mafia 101 - Mafia Dodgeball: GAME OVER

[Plum]

Day 4 Votecount 01

alvinz95 - 1 - tubby216
tubby216 -

3

- RayFrost, Dry-fit, alvinz95
Bub Bidderskins - 1 - malpascp
malpascp - 1 - Vi
RayFrost - 1 - roflcopter

Not Voting (6): DeathNote, imaginality, dramonic, Sajin, Bub Bidderskins, manho

With 13 Players alive, it'll take 7 votes to slam someone into the gymnasium floor.
With 13 Players alive, it'll take 7 votes to call for a peaceful water break.

No one could possibly need a prod now.

[imaginality]

I remember seeing reasons to think tubby and SnowBunny could be scumbuddies. I can't recall what those reasons were exactly but I stand by them anyhow. Given the SnowBunny flip, it's tempting to add the vote to tubby already.

But it's hard to look past the fact that if chamber and Juls hadn't been NKed, Ray would be the guy being wagoned right now.

[RayFrost]

I remember seeing reasons to think tubby and SnowBunny could be scumbuddies. I can't recall what those reasons were exactly but I stand by them anyhow. Given the SnowBunny flip, it's tempting to add the vote to tubby already.

But it's hard to look past the fact that if chamber and Juls hadn't been NKed, Ray would be the guy being wagoned right now.

Chamber wasn't pushing for my lynch.

Roflcopter was the stronger advocate relative to Juls.

You not giving any conclusion past the information is noted, btw.

[DeathNote]

I remember seeing reasons to think tubby and SnowBunny could be scumbuddies. I can't recall what those reasons were exactly but I stand by them anyhow. Given the SnowBunny flip, it's tempting to add the vote to tubby already.

But it's hard to look past the fact that if chamber and Juls hadn't been NKed, Ray would be the guy being wagoned right now.

Chamber wasn't pushing for my lynch.

Roflcopter was the stronger advocate relative to Juls.

You not giving any conclusion past the information is noted, btw.

You saying you note everything that you don't like as it is negative to you is noted.

Lynch options for today:
1. BB
2. BB
3. Everyone else

Three is just in case something happens that I don't expect. Anything is possible but I have a strong urge to finish what should have happened two days ago.

Vote: BB

[RayFrost]

You saying you note everything that you don't like as it is negative to you is noted.

Soooooo... it's

not

scummy to post a bunch of already known and obvious information, fence sit, and not give any conclusions?

[DeathNote]

You saying you note everything that you don't like as it is negative to you is noted.

Soooooo... it's

not

scummy to post a bunch of already known and obvious information, fence sit, and not give any conclusions?

Sure that is scummy.... but your noting things all the time is also annoying.

[RayFrost]

You saying you note everything that you don't like as it is negative to you is noted.

Soooooo... it's

not

scummy to post a bunch of already known and obvious information, fence sit, and not give any conclusions?

Sure that is scummy.... but your noting things all the time is also annoying.

It's the simplest way to point something out.

[imaginality]

Wow, Ray, you're touchy. It's not like I think you killed them

both

.

Re. voting Bub. It seems like some people (mal) think Bub = SK and others (DeathNote, me last time I mentioned Bub) think Bub = scum.

mal, why do you think Bub is SK specifically?

I would be more inclined to turn it the other way and suspect Ray of being an SK (with Vi as a dark horse), and at least one and quite possibly multiple scum to be amongst {mal, Bub, tubby, manho}.

[RayFrost]

I

am

touchy when I feel that somebody isn't exactly contributing enough. Plus, your initial post either said something that others had said or stated the obvious. I dislike when people merely state the obvious... it is like the person is insulting my intelligence.

What do you mean by "Vi as dark horse?" seriously, I dun get it.

Anyway, how about this: (directed at the town in general)

we lynch me/tubby today

town lynches manho and tubby/me tomorrow and the day after (order of which is first in the pairings is not important)

I'll be cool with this chain of events. The flips will give info that'll be helpful in finding scum at minimum.

Also, why aren't you voting anybody, imaginality?

[imaginality]

I am touchy when I feel that somebody isn't exactly contributing enough. Plus, your initial post either said something that others had said or stated the obvious.

Me saying I thought tubby and SB looked like scumbuddies seemed like a useful thing to say.

I dislike when people merely state the obvious... it is like the person is insulting my intelligence.

Or who knows, what is obvious to you might be non-obvious to someone else.

What do you mean by "Vi as dark horse?" seriously, I dun get it.

I mean that I don't really see Vi as scum but my gut says it's possible Vi could be anti-town anyhow, i.e. SK.

Also, why aren't you voting anybody, imaginality?

Was away over the weekend, and I want to reread tubby first to make sure my scum read on him (carried over from where I was at at the end of yesterday) is fair and not an over-reaction to his antagonistic playstyle. Would rather read first then vote than vote first then read.

[RayFrost]

I suppose so (re obvious comment)

How do you think that I'm SK & Vi is SK?

That makes sense (re reason for not voting)

[Vi]

Hey imaginality. Your posts are garbagetastic, especially considering you didn't express suspicion of tubby yesterday at all. This isn't surprising considering your activity up until this point, which has a tendency to involve saying you'll post soon and then not doing so except to place conveniently timed votes.
So make yourself useful and vote malpascp for me, since he's on your scumlist.

*does activity check*
Holy cats, Sajin is megalurking inexcusably. If whichever of you scumpeople isn't allied to him could kindly off him I think everyone would be pleased. Except him, but oh well.

I would expect that there are three Mafia and one SK left in the game. Here's two of them listed above. I'm not sure about the other two, but wagoning malpascp would be a good place to start.

I have no plans to vote tubby.

[tubby216]

Vi thoughts on alvinz?

[Vi]

Well, his ego is certainly annoying.
I'm curious as to why I'm apparently scum to him. I would say he apparently missed who and what got lynched yesterday, but no, he didn't.

He's voting you because he thinks you're the SK - and, more likely, because you turned out to have the most agreement behind your lynch after his initial post. Your vote on him for reasons I don't think anyone understands probably fuels this as well. Nonetheless it's not out of the ordinary for what he has been doing all game, and he HAS been right for a long time.

Am I missing anything?

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Dry-fit, why tubby and not Bub?

[RayFrost]

Does anybody disagree with what I said in post 1458? (ofc, that if void with manho flipping scum, as that changes buddy pairings and the like - same for tubs)

[Vi]

I disagree because as of the moment I don't want either you or tubby to die.
Not that I can blame the people who DO tbh (while rereading I remembered tubby bashing the Vig), but see that other post I made, etc.

[manho]

Anyway, how about this: (directed at the town in general)

we lynch me/tubby today

town lynches manho and tubby/me tomorrow and the day after (order of which is first in the pairings is not important)

I'll be cool with this chain of events. The flips will give info that'll be helpful in finding scum at minimum.

so, what info can we get?

vote: ray

@mod: V/LA until 20/11

[Vi]

@mod: No change in my level of activity until 2011, which will be how long I survive in this game

Fixed?

[dramonic]

I am STRONGLY against setting a chain-lynch like that. It gives scum/SK an easy point by point list of who they don't need to kill.

I'll do a quick reread and give my player opinions in the next post.

[DeathNote]

^I agree. Claiming who we are going to lynch for future days is a terrible idea. We should just scum hunt as normal. Is Bub V/LA, lurking, or getting replaced?

[roflcopter]

its amazing how ray keeps getting away with killing people who suspect him and not getting lynched for it

[alvinz95]

Nevermind, changed my mind.

Unvote, Vote: RayFrost

[Sajin]

I would perfer a Bub lynch or a tubby lynch. Nothing has changed my mind.

Vote: Tubby

[Bub Bidderskins]

And lastly.

I WAS SO F*3CKING RIGHT ABOUT SNOW_BUNNY

Totally deserved. You now have permission to bathe in your ego-mania.

Is Bub V/LA, lurking, or getting replaced?

None of the above. Has had a super-busy weekend, as well as having to cram for debate research (which involves treading through the tax code and abusing TurboTax 2008. Imagine, I find this stuff fun.) I haven't had the time recently.

It also appears that I've climbed up everybody's scum-list since yesterday. Suprising, mainly since the bussing argument is pure WIFOM.

At anyrate, the NK of Juls really implicates RayFrost, as well as the D-1 kill of KMD, since both of those people had RF in their crosshairs.

On the topic of the nightkill, there a few possible arrangements:

1. Mafia and SK, one of which no-killed until now (most probable)
2. Mafia and two vigs or mafia and vig/one-shot vig (still possible)
3. Two seperate scum factions (highly unlikely)
4. Some special double nightkill anti-town role/ability (also unlikely)

Obviously, the most likely senario is the first, but it helps to list all the possibilities. Another interesting thing is that ROFL isn't dead. He was pushing the RF case just as much if not more than Juls and KMD, and yet he's still alive. Seems odd, but with all the people suspecting RF, it isn't surprising.

Right now, I'm going to

vote: malpascp

, who has been virtually non-existent throughout the game.

[Vi]

Sajin is obvious scum.
imaginality is likely scum.
At least one of manho and malpascp is scum.

atm I'm not at all interested in lynching anyone outside of these people.
In addition, if RayFrost is Town, roflcopter is virtually

guaranteed

to be scum.

alvinz is too far off in his own ego balloon to notice people talking about him or asking him questions.