Mini 894: Vortex (Game, Set, Match)

[UncertainKitten]

What do you mean pre-game conversation, Tar? Are you effectively...

No, I'll let you claim further if you deem it necessary. At this point

Unvote, Vote mipe

But there are two possibilities I can think of for pre game conversation, and only one of them bodes even decently for you, Tar.

[UncertainKitten]

Good. I can wait for chamber to still be wrong tomorrow. Sounds good ^-^.

[Cobalt]

Ha. I was right for once.

unvote vote mipe

[RayFrost]

So...

Nobody else is claiming John, then.

Well, I'd rather hold off on voting mipe (avoiding the hammer, as I don't want it quiiiite yet)

[Boxman]

Okay, I read the last page or so. I'm inclined to believe mipe is scum with Tar's role. I wouldn't mind hammering if you guys decided you were done with discussion.

[UncertainKitten]

I want Tar to answer first, since at this point I think he has to claim something if he's having pregame discussions.

Alternatively, we could wait til mipe's flip.

[RayFrost]

I think having Tar say it before is better than after as that ensures we have the information where waiting after the flip may give scum (Assuming Tar-town) a chance to NK Tar and keep him silent.

[Cobalt]

There are very few ways to have out-of-thread conversations. I think we can all draw our own conclusions without spelling it out for scum.

[UncertainKitten]

I think having Tar say it before is better than after as that ensures we have the information where waiting after the flip may give scum (Assuming Tar-town) a chance to NK Tar and keep him silent.

Well, if he claims one thing that isn't true (And I highly doubt he'd back himself into a corner like that), I agree that before is better.

[julienvonwolfe]

Finally, there's a good case on mipe.

There are very few ways to have out-of-thread conversations. I think we can all draw our own conclusions without spelling it out for scum.

Or perhaps Tar has already? He said himself he'll probably be killed. We may as well take what information he'll give us, if there was indeed a conversation before the game.

[Tarhalindur]

Meh. Might as well halfclaim at this point.

I'm Stephen (or at least one Stephen; I should be the only non-time-traveling one, at any rate); while I'm no explicitly told this, I should be the mathematician who developed the equations necessary for the Box.

My inside information: I was approached (flavor, not actual role conversation) before the game by John (engineer friend). He claimed to be from a future where he and my future counterpart had successfully invented a time machine (the Box). Furthermore, he claimed that Box-enabled time travel was causing critical damage to the timeline. Then he tells me that the only way to fix it was to stuff everybody into the Box so that they couldn't activate the time machine... and asks for my help.

At this point, my character is horrified (apparently his proposed solution is tantamount to mass murder*) and flat-out refuses to help (I may be a friend, but not THAT much of a friend). In retaliation, future-John attempts to stuff me into the Box, but I'm able to get away and hide well enough that he can't find me.

The upshot? I flat-out know that a future version of John is scum. I also have a couple of other suspicions from this (scum kill probably uses the Box, and future versions of myself probably aren't Mafia).

I'd rather not claim abilities (or lack thereof) at this time (save for my lack of the Time Traveler ability).

Can we get around to lynching mipe now?

[DragonsofSummer]

The problem is, I am also John, I invented the box but have never used it, and don't know any reason that I would according to my role.

[Tarhalindur]

The problem is, I am also John, I invented the box but have never used it, and don't know any reason that I would according to my role.

Quick check - you're not a time traveler, right?

[DragonsofSummer]

I have never traveled through time. Nor do I have an ability called time traveler

[Tarhalindur]

I have never traveled through time. Nor do I have an ability called time traveler

Then I don't see a problem - my rolebased specifically says that a TIME-TRAVELING version of John is scum.

Can we lynch Mipe now, please?

[Boxman]

If that's all we had left to discuss, then I see no reason not to finish this here.

Vote: mipe

[DragonsofSummer]

Yes, the problem I was referring to wasn't with mipe being scum. Its the chance that a future version of you tar could potentially be scum too, and you shouldn't rule it out. I have no reason to ever use the box, but obviously at some point in the future I did (which resulted in Mipe's role) so your role may have done the same thing.

[chamber]

@tar

If you had to pick one word that seemed important what would it be?

[malthusis]

Die scum!

Vote DoS

Will explain when I have the time (going to bed). Do NOT lynch anyone yet!

[chamber]

Die scum!

Vote DoS

Will explain when I have the time (going to bed). Do NOT lynch anyone yet!

Fairly sure boxman was already the hammer.

[Tarhalindur]

@tar

If you had to pick one word that seemed important what would it be?

Depends on what it's important to.

If you're referring to what I think you're referring to, however... "mathematician".

[chamber]

Not at all what I was refering to, oh well.

[Kinetic]

Eighth Vote Count, and final

Locking, revealing coming soon, Night Phase go.

(7)

mipe

: XXX

(Sajin, Konowa, DoS, Tar, chamber, ForbiddenLight, Cobalt)

(2)

Cobalt

: mipe

(UK, Malthusis)

(2)

RayFrost

: Konowa

(JVW, Cobalt)

(1)

Boxman

: XXX

(chamber)

(1)

UncertainKitten

: mipe

(chamber)

(1)

Konowa

: mipe

(RayFrost)

(0)

julienvonwolfe

: Rayfrost

()

(0)

malthusis

: Cobalt

()

(0)

Sajin

: mipe

()

(0)

Tarhalindur

: mipe

()

(0)

chamber

: mipe

()

(0)

DragonsofSummer

: mipe -

()

Currently there are 12 votes in play, this means it will require 7 to lynch.
Currently there are $%$#%@ players alive.

[Kinetic]

"Hey Jim, take a look at this. Monitor 7."

"Did they finally make a decision?"

"Yea, they're killing John."

"Bring up his information"

[[ Load file John.Engineer ]]

[[ Warning ]]

"Whoa. This guys is fucked up. He must have gone through at least 30 or 40 trips. His scans are like jelly"

"Sean, I think he might be the original John. The first one."

"No shit. That might explain some things. I don't think he can even process what the hell is going on."

"It might be a good thing that he's been removed, he might have been one of the anomalies preventing this timeline from breaking from this seemingly endless vortex."

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mipe
John, Engineer
Win Condition:

Serial Killer

Lynched Day 1

Night Phase will last at least 72 hours, and the thread will open no earlier than 2 AM, Friday January 8.

[Kinetic]

Night is Over.

UncertainKitten
Gary, Science Fiction Author
Win Condition:

Town

Disappeared Night 1

Cobalt
Gary, Science Fiction Author
Win Condition:

Mafia

Killed Night 1 by Poison

"What do you think happens now?"

"I'm not sure... something has definitely changed, but so far everything is happening close to how it has always happened."

"If that's the case..."

"Yea... "