Mafia 109 - A Glitch in time - Game Over!

[dramonic]

On that note, dramonic, your report?

I checked Ythan, hopping desperately to get a gun result and get him lynched from it.
Alas he was gunless (duh)
Also now that we have a second kill I cant out gunbearers as relaxingly as I wish :S

[SpyreX]

Woodoggy game I'd love to even pretend to know what the case is on me but, alas poor yorick.

I mean the rationales presented today are ROCK SOLID and awesome.

And yea I pushed a case on pananamama and I will be delving deeper into that later today.

[Drippereth]

On that note, dramonic, your report?

I checked Ythan, hopping desperately to get a gun result and get him lynched from it.
Alas he was gunless (duh)
Also now that we have a second kill I cant out gunbearers as relaxingly as I wish :S

Oh. Well.

If you guys are going to make it so easy. Why should I make my life more complicated???

Yeah I know, SpyreX scum gets another day. We'll say it's to thank him for NK'ing Ythan.

unvote, vote: Dramonic

[SpyreX]

While thats awesome and all I'm missing the bite?

[Drippereth]

^^^ You're scum because of vote analasys.
Dram is scum because he's still alive with a result.

[SpyreX]

So, just so we're clear:

I'm scum because I 1.) thought the initial wagon on Nik was garbage (it was). 2.) agreed with you that he exploded when he thought he was lynched and outed himself (he did) and THEN the next day came out hard on another scum partner?

And dramonic is scum because he's alive with a result on a dead person?

[dramonic]

no, I'm scum because I'm alive period.

Apparently it's not logical for me to not get NKed cuz I'm gunsmith. Let's ignore the fact NKing would serve no purpose since I seem to attract lynch love so far throughout the game.

[Drippereth]

So, just so we're clear:

I'm scum because I 1.) thought the initial wagon on Nik was garbage (it was). 2.) agreed with you that he exploded when he thought he was lynched and outed himself (he did) and THEN the next day came out hard on another scum partner?

And dramonic is scum because he's alive with a result on a dead person?

Nonono, Dramonic is scum is because he wasn't roleblocked and is still alive.
Why you're scum: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 32#2133132

[SpyreX]

So THATS where this comes from?

Lets take a look at it for reallies then:

Day 1:

On the lynch wagon:

Camn

, Anon, Drippereth, Maemuki, Starbuck,

CSL

,

Ythan

, Spyrex, Parama.

Out of the lynch wagon: Dramonic, Weaboo,

A Clergyman with a Hoop

, kmd,

Nachomamma8

, yosa, Pulindar.

Day 2:

(A little erroneous because of modkill but lets peek)

On the lynch wagon: Parama, Yosarian2,

Nachomamma8

, Kmd, Drippereth

Off the lynch wagon: Weaboo, Pulindar,

Ythan

, Maemuki,

Camn

, Anon, SpyreX,

A Clergyman with a Hoop

, Starbuck, Dramonic

Day 3:

On the lynch wagon:

Camn

, SpyreX, Kmd, Drippereth, Dramonic, Weaboo, Yosarian2, Anon

Off the lynch wagon:

Ythan

, Parama,

Nachomamma8

, Starbuck, Maemuki

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So, I'm scum because I've been RIGHT?

Additionally, looking at that I'm going to go ahead and reference this when Parama-gate opens.

[Drippereth]

You can be right again with a Dramonic vote.

[Parama]

Additionally, looking at that I'm going to go ahead and reference this when Parama-gate opens.

Mmk.
When you do that, note these things:
-I hammered on Nikanor (not a defense)
-I was gone for most of Day 3 (this is a defense)

[SpyreX]

Ok help me through this because seriously:

I want to lynch Parama but Dramonic has said he has no gun.
I STILL think Dramonic after the whole bidness yesterday is town.

Additionally:
If Parama is scum* Dramonic is scum.
If Dramonic is scum, P-chan is ???.

*Something besides (scum that doesn't have a gun or ???)

So, every fiber of my being says lynch Parama over Dramonic if that's the route we're taking.

But, Dramonic being alive with a result is weird UNLESS the scum don't have guns?

Then, what the hell game?

[Drippereth]

Does the Nacho lynch add/substract from your Parama case, SpryreX?

[SpyreX]

The absence of play overall during that whole fiasco sure does

[Yosarian2]

Let me take a different tack.

Vote:Weaboo

Defended Nik, has done very little this game, very little real scumhunting from them at any point. Really been flying under the radar.

[Parama]

The absence of play overall during that whole fiasco sure does

Yo bro I was on V/LA the entire time.
Please go away.

[Weaboo]

{Kise}

Let me go on record saying I believe there being a cautious vig rather than a 2nd non-town killing faction.

Yosarian - There's a difference between defending Nik and disagreeing with his (initial) wagon. Why would Reck and I show curiosity in Nik's "Have a good game" comment if we wanted to help our mate survive? Keep in mind we were on that little comment of his right after learning CSL failhammered him. Better yet, see what else I have to say to Nik here:
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 95#2122295

I'll accept you saying Reck and I have done little scumhunting since I just started getting back into the game.

Vote: Maemuki

Was not on either lynch, and questioned Nacho's wagon as a lurkerhunt. To me, it looks like she's selectively trying to nitpick at mislynch options. You want to talk about defending scum? Well, she begged us to wait for Nacho to answer before lynching him, then asked what the case was. She should have asked what the case was before determining whether it was justified to speedlynch him or not. Let's have a perfect game, guys.

[Drippereth]

But, Dramonic being alive with a result is weird UNLESS the scum don't have guns?

So far no kills have involved shootings. So what's the use of a gunsmith???????????????

Unless it's a scum gunsmith looking for a vig???????????

But do we have a vig???????

[Drippereth]

Regardless, Dram is scum.
I mean, Yosarian2 agreed.

He's the only claimed role - an information role - if the scum haven't killed him, I would expect that they would roleblock him.

That would be a strong argument, except the scum apparently failed to kill last night, so who knows who they tried to kill.

[SpyreX]

Weeaboo needs to do more but I like my gut on him.

CSL and Ythan have been NK's.

We have a vig. Or an SK prepping for vig who will win because whomever says "Yea, it was me that shot them" pretty much gets a parade and a golden castle to put his golden medallion of "I do good deeds" on.

[Weaboo]

Weeaboo needs to do more but I like my gut on him.

I'm still in the room, kupo.

*tilts head*

Maybe Gunsmith is a technical term for the role, if dram really is who he says he is. I actually thought this was another werewolves game. Anyway, check out Mae's views on known scum. She

is

scum.

K. Prayer time.

[Kmd4390]

Ok.

Spy, town.

Dramonic, town.

Weaboo, town.

Yos, scum.

Mae, scum.

I will elaborate on two of these. First come, first serve. Anyone can ask by the way.

[Yosarian2]

So, just because I don't really like the spy or dramonic wagons and instead am trying to find scum elsewhere, I'm scum, even though you agree with me about both wagons? What?

[Maemuki]

Maybe Gunsmith is a technical term for the role, if dram really is who he says he is. I actually thought this was another werewolves game. Anyway, check out Mae's views on known scum. She is scum.

So people have to be 100% right now? AWESOME!

Also D1 says hi to you! Also [2], why are your reasons pretty much the same as Kmd's? (SHE WASN'T LYNCHING SCUM SO SHE'S SCUM YAY!)

We have a vig. Or an SK prepping for vig who will win

I'm guessing the latter. Haylen is Haylen after all.

[Drippereth]

Dramonic is scum.

(a) first investigation: us.

Why on earth, since we spent all of Day 1 going ballistic on a scumbag that dropped scumtells only visible to us, before he even really got started? This after we yelled out "NON-VIG!" Sure, it could have been interpreted as a Day 1 bus. But Nikanor has a reputation as a solid player, and no one saw scumtells in anything he said.

(b) second investigation: Parama.

When we have tons of more dangerous suspects? Like who would fail to investigate YOS? Or SPYREX? Or CAMN? Or anyone else influential?

(c) third investigation: Ythan.

Seriously? Like he was a threat? Or particularly useful to the town? Now pay attention, you all. If I were scum, and Ythan was town, would I want him dead or alive? The answer is, ALIVE, and for as long as possible. Because as long as he's alive, he's like a distraction for wagons on myself-scum and my scumpals. He's an asset to the scum. He distracts at every second post, but he does no scum hunting whatsoever. He holds no opinion and once cannot influence the town without holding an opinion. Therefore, he's an asset to the scum; a constant, non-threatening distraction. By giving us an "innocent" on Ythan, he's prolonging Ythan's life. Yay scum. And of course, investigating the dead guy is a classic.

WE'VE HAD NO GUN DEATH.

DRAMONIC is still alive.

DRAMONIC is not roleblocked.

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This being said we're late enough in the game to dwell deeper into voting patterns. I will try to do that tonight.
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