Riddle Me This! NY111 - mafia dead - Town wins!

[scotmany12]

Kills in the coming days/nights will obviously be an aid to us in finding potential scum, though we can't use that today (unless we have a dayvig), and that is partly why I don't scumhunt on Day 1 (or at least as well I would other days).

Wait..what?
Did anyone else see this? How is not scumhunting productive? Obviously no one will have as good an idea Day 1 as they do each next Day but that shouldn't stop you from trying

Yeah, I saw it. I'm currently content with my vote on Richard.

[Thestatusquo]

Um...It's not at all the same behavior. The justification for inhim involved some of what I attacked him for, but wasn't the only reason. There are about three things I attacked inhim for.

That being said, my vote would probably be on Mipe or dahill (toss up) if it were not on inhim. The reason inhim got my vote was because it was the most voteworthy thing I had seen thusfar, and then he did several other things that caught my attention to. If this post had come before Inhims post, I would have probably voted him, and warned Inhim,

Its worth mentioning that my "warning" is basically a "FOS" but I don't do "FOS"s because I feel like it's dumb to have an in game action that is essentially better performed with words. He's not off the hook, he'd just have to be a little more scummy for me to move my vote at the moment.

[dahill1]

Well, scumhunting is good, because is they accidentally do something wrong, we know who the scum is. So Richard?

This kinda seems like ksun just wanted something to write, so he put an obvious statement (albeit incorrect as TSQ pointed out). At least write something to make us think you're not blatantly piggybacking.

I could vote ksun right now, but I wanna hear from Izzy still. And DickGHP

[Thestatusquo]

Richard pretty obviously just doesn't have a very good grasp of mafia theory, and thinks he does. He believes in things like randomness, which perpetuate the RVS, and he has a fundamental misunderstanding about what scumhunting is. The fact that you two are focusing on it, and nothing else really makes you raise several notches on my list.

There are much better fish to fry at the moment. Like this inhim character.

List of suspicion at this point:

1. Inhim
2. Dahill (tie?)
3. Mipe (tie?)
4. Scot

People I'm pretty comfortable with:
Shamba
Korts

[dahill1]

Who said I thought GHP was scummy for it? I'm asking him why he thinks that because it's anti-town.

In fact right now I'd rank ksun above him in scumminess

[scotmany12]

I should say that its more Richard's unvote of Anon and then vote on izzy which is why im voting for him.

[dahill1]

I should say that its more Richard's unvote of Anon and then vote on izzy which is why im voting for him.

I don't understand why that's scummy.

[Thestatusquo]

Dahill just moved up to a clear number 2.

You didn't think it was scummy, yet you brought it to the whole towns attention? You asked for other people to attack him for it, basically? When you say "hey WOW did you guys see this." the only natural reaction of the town is that you think it is worthy of our attention because it is scummy.

So, you asked us to attack someone who you didn't think was scummy, and now you're trying to distance yourself from that fact? Yeah, or Inhim should probably swing today.

[scotmany12]

I should say that its more Richard's unvote of Anon and then vote on izzy which is why im voting for him.

I don't understand why that's scummy.

Had he voted Izzy right away, I would have had no problem with it. I don't like his vote for anon, then unvote and vote for izzy, as if him voting for izzy would somehow please the other players.

[dahill1]

Since when does me saying "look at this" imply that I think it's scummy? It's more like "look at this. this is ridiculous, anti-town and needs to changed"

[dahill1]

*to be changed

[Anon]

Vote: dahill1.

The "guys, did you see this?" smells so much scum maneuver, specially with dahill not voting him.

This is the wagon of the day.

Otoh, I really dont see inhim scum with him being so talkative and relaxed.

[dahill1]

Vote: dahill1.

The "guys, did you see this?" smells so much scum maneuver, specially with dahill not voting him.

This is the wagon of the day.

Otoh, I really dont see inhim scum with him being so talkative and relaxed.

Because I don't think what he did was scummy...

[Anon]

What exactly did you want us to see then? That you just caught an antitown player? How does that help or why would it be important to us?

[Korts]

Shea: fair enough. Your wording just didn't make it quite clear whether you're expressing suspicion of mipe or coaching him.

I will have to read post 100 onwards properly again tomorrow, my mind has spontaneously shut off. Night.

[Anon]

Mipe, why did you vote me in 87?

[ksun482]

^Yeahhe ^{does look scummy}, and anti-town ^peopleare bad but dahill? ^That'sobvious.

Unvote Vote: Dahill

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[ksun482]

Original Roll String: 100d10 (STATIC)

100 10-Sided Dice: (5, 10, 9, 7, 2, 5, 2, 1, 6, 10, 1, 3, 10, 10, 3, 4, 8, 10, 1, 6, 7, 6, 2, 4, 3, 9, 6, 3, 1, 6, 1, 10, 6, 6, 5, 2, 8, 8, 10, 5, 6, 2, 2, 2, 3, 10, 1, 4, 7, 4, 1, 2, 8, 7, 6, 8, 10, 5, 9, 3, 4, 8, 2, 7, 8, 10, 2, 8, 7, 1, 9, 6, 7, 3, 10, 1, 9, 4, 9, 10, 1, 8, 4, 2, 4, 2, 5, 7, 1, 9, 3, 7, 10, 9, 8, 10, 4, 4, 6, 10) = 560

~What on Earth are you doing?~

[Anon]

Request ksun to be force replaced.

[inHimshallibe]

Why has the izzywagon stalled...

[dahill1]

What exactly did you want us to see then? That you just caught an antitown player? How does that help or why would it be important to us?

I wasn't implying that I "caught" anyone. It was more of a "woah check this out". I can see how you and TSQ could be thinking that I'm scum trying to boost my "townie cred" by spotting an illogical (bad logic = scum, duh) scumbag, but I think you're reading into it too much.

[Thestatusquo]

Anon, look at inhims join date. Do you really expect him to be unrelaxed and lurky? That's not how experienced scum behave. You have to look at the actions he's taking to find alignment, and what their goals are, not how he's doing them.

That being said, he can hang later. I am more than down with a Dahill wagon.

Vote: Dahill

Dahill, you're missing the point. The point is that your action had no town motivation. You pointed out something that was anti town, and you addressed it to the town, not the person you thought was doing something anti town. The only reason to point something out to the town, as town, is if you think it's relevant to determining alignment. Since you later claimed that you did not think it was indicative of alignment, it seems to me that your action has one likely motivation. It seems that you could have been trying to give an inexperienced player a little nudge to implosion. It doesn't take much, they say something that is a function of your experience, you point it out, and then someone else jumps on it in the midst of the random stage, the wagon starts, you've long distanced yourself from it, and the noob reacts poorly to attack and ends up getting misslynched. Even if he doesn't get misslynched, the wagon serves as a smoke screen.

[mipe]

Mipe, why did you vote me in 87?

1. It was semi-random vote.

2. I thought you were bit scummish.

For now, it seems like dahill was trying to manipulate the town votes without being noticed, but failed at that.

Unvote, Vote: dahill1

[DizzyIzzyB13]

unvote, vote springlullaby

Dislike the "I'm planning on lurking and being generally useless" post.

[Thestatusquo]

Disregard the last post. Mod sent me a PM and I apologize for being hot under the collar.

Izzy, you're much sexier when you're not being horribly hypocritical. Is that not like your second post of the game? Who's lurking more?