Mini 932: Let's all be friends (Over)

[Sidekick]

ebb-flow as in "Ohh I'm being attacked I'll talk a lot."
"Ohh I'm being bothered by one person I'll talk some."
"Ohh... welp no posting here."

I just don't have very much to say, I'm not very good at Mafia yet.

[Sidekick]

That sounds bad. I mean the game Mafia not the role Mafia.

[DisgruntledSean]

okay, sorry, been busy
about the iceman bandwagon; my vote was initially more of a pressure vote (i think it was the third) which left us far from the unsubstantiated lynch that i was worried about.

@iceman: have you played any other games under an alt or on another site?

Fongoid:

As far as the current bandwagons, I'm hardly convinced by the reasons, though players under pressure do provide info, so I'll submit to SpyreX's bandwagon badgering...

what kind of info have you gained from these bandwagons? who would you vote for if the day was ending soon and why?

[in ref to riddick and ice]

Could be a bit of distancing between two scum, but I'm starting to think that at least one of them is.

Who do you think is more likely and why?

Riddick: a very active, inquisitive player. uncertain of the purpose of half the questions tho.
@riddick: gained any significant reads from your questions?
[in ref to hoopla's town read on sotty and sidekick]

I disagree with both of these reads.

How do you disagree? Do you think they are neutral, anti-town or scummy?

@hoopla: does the knowledge that riddick's played under an alt. change how you interpret him?

Spyre's debate with sidekick was a little distracting and didn't bring anything to light, but i agree with his interpretation of sidekick in his iso30, tho

@wuic: why do you think your vote should be on me and not ice?

[SpyreX]

THIS is what I was waiting for? Hmmmpph

6.5/10

[Hoopla]

THIS is what I was waiting for? Hmmmpph

6.5/10

That's awfully generous of you.

@hoopla: does the knowledge that riddick's played under an alt. change how you interpret him?

Still feels town - I have no desire to lynch from the limited pool of regularly active players, also.

[Riddick]

Speaking of not saying why something is scummy, care to explain what about DisgruntledSean makes you think he's town?

gut read yo. i don't think i can quantify it really. (is quantify the word i'm supposed to use there, idk)

That's kind of my point. You've told me that you think DisgruntledSean is town, but you haven't told me

why

. Perhaps I'm just jealous because my gut seems to only tell me when I'm hungry, but it seems like a fantastic way for scum to have an opinion without actually providing any reasoning.

yah it's prob jealousy, idk what else would explain it of course it's also a fantastic way for town to have a read when they can't explain it, so yeah.

[Riddick]

@riddick: gained any significant reads from your questions?

i don't ask that many questions, lol. yeah i have, i think they've helped me out enough, most of them were b/c i wasn't sure or needed clarification iirc (cba to check back) but they've obviously helped.

I disagree with both of these reads.

How do you disagree? Do you think they are neutral, anti-town or scummy?

I disagreed that they were both probably town, although I've changed my mind on Sotty lately, sidekick is neutral.

Mod : Prod IcemanE

plz.

[Sotty7]

@iceman: have you played any other games under an alt or on another site?

What's the point of this question? Ice has been a member since 2008 so you can't be trying to suggest he is newb. What are your thoughts on his (limited) posting so far?

I second the Ice prod.

[DisgruntledSean]

shit, rrr, i missed the join date, i checked his wiki and it seemed he had this game and a newb one. if he was completely new it would be more plausible that he was scum lurking

come on spyre, show us how it's done

[Budja]

Not impressed either.

Prod Ice.

I guess I could settle on a DS lynch if Ice doesn't get support.

[SpyreX]

I'm on vacation so you don't get the fat from me this week. If we haven't moved I'll shake this sucka up when I get back.

[julienvonwolfe]

Vote Count No. 7

IcemanE (5) - Spyrex, DisgruntledSean, Sotty7, Riddick, Budja
DisgruntledSean (4) - WingsOWisdom, Hoopla, Sidekick, TeWuicah
Riddick (2) - IcemanE, Fongoid
Fongoid (1) - Cruelty

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Prodding Iceman.

Deadline

[WingsOWisdom]

Eh, join date doesn't say much about experience.

i missed the join date, i checked his wiki and it seemed he had this game and a newb one.

Er... that's not this game. IcemanE has listed Newbie 584 and Mini 584. We're in Mini 932.

It seems like DisgruntledSean is stretching to find reasons to find IcemanE scummy.

[cruelty]

Don't really like doing this, but;

unvote, vote iceman

This is L1, he's not my #1 choice but I can't see a Fongoid wagon happening right now, and Iceman (or his replacement) needs to sort himself out.

[Sotty7]

Ugh... Don't like that vote.

Cruelty what do you think about Sean? I did a quick look over your ISO and I don't see you mentioning him. Where is Ice on your suspect list?

Also:

It seems like DisgruntledSean is stretching to find reasons to find IcemanE scummy.

Very much this.

[Hoopla]

Ugh... Don't like that vote.

Cruelty what do you think about Sean? I did a quick look over your ISO and I don't see you mentioning him. Where is Ice on your suspect list?

Also:

It seems like DisgruntledSean is stretching to find reasons to find IcemanE scummy.

Very much this.

What don't you like about it exactly? It obviously isn't bad enough to make you question your read on Iceman, and remove your own vote - so why mention it?

It looks like you're shaping to jump ship to DisgruntledSean, but then....you don't.

[Sotty7]

Because I am finding Ice scummy but obviously not sold on my read 100%

Combine that with Sean and his weak attempt to throw weak suspicion on Ice and I'm not sure what to do. Cruelty putting Ice at lynch-1 is something the game needs with 4 days till deadline, but doesn't mean I have to like it.

Also I don't like how Cruetly hasn't mentioned Sean.

[Sotty7]

Actually it's pretty clear what I should do.

Unvote, Vote: Sean

[Hoopla]

Mod:

Please prod TeWuicah and Fongoid - and maybe give us a status update on Iceman?

I'm really disliking all this lurking so close to deadline.

[Sotty7]

Also if Ice needs to be replaced can we get a deadline extension?

[SpyreX]

Mmmm this is beautiful.

I'd put HIGH odds on one of these two being scum from the way this is panning out.

[WingsOWisdom]

It's been almost a whole week since we last saw IcemanE. It's probably time to start looking for a replacement.

If activity rate is an indication of being scum, I'd say we're pretty much screwed, because we're probably about one mis-lynch away from losing the game. Which really means we have a bunch of town players who aren't posting. Yum.

The rules don't seem to indicate any different lynch requirements at deadline, so we're going to have to come to a decision soon. I'd much rather see IcemanE replaced than lynched, especially since we have another strong lynch candidate who at least occasionally posts (DisgruntledSean).

[cruelty]

What do I think of Sean?

I didn't have a huge problem with his iceman vote, to be honest. I mean I understand the contradiction in theory, but in reality he (iceman) only had 2 votes at the time so Sean's vote wasn't hugely significant in terms of edging the wagon closer to the cliff edge.

I just get a slightly scummier feeling from ice - the inactivity coupled with the attitude reversal regarding bandwagons sets my spidey senses tingling a bit more.

[cruelty]

That said I'd much rather lynch Fongoid.

[julienvonwolfe]

*bump*