Mini 932: Let's all be friends (Over)


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Post Post #300 (ISO) » Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:42 pm

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Vote Count No. 11


don_johnson (2) - DisgruntledSean, Riddick
DisgruntledSean (3) - WingsOWisdom, Sidekick, TeWuicah
Riddick (1) - Snow White
Snow White (1) - Cruelty
Cruelty (2) - don_johnson, Hoopla

Not voting (2) - Spyrex, Budja, Sotty7

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Post Post #301 (ISO) » Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:44 pm

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Hoopla wrote:
Mod:
What happens if we don't decide on a lynch before deadline? Is it automatically a no-lynch, or highest votes at the time gets lynched?
If there are not 7 votes on somebody at the end of day one, there will be no lynch.
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Post Post #302 (ISO) » Fri Mar 19, 2010 10:02 pm

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60 hours to go, shitshitshit, we need to do something guys.

Sean isn't a lynch choice any more, so those voting him need to swap to someone else
immediately
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I'm usually quite pessimistic about towns that have consigned themselves to scrambling for lynches, but we don't have any other choice. Those lurking in the 60 hours will feel my wrath, and those posting without voting someone else and explaining their current suspicions they're open to lynching, will feel even more of my wrath. And I won't wear gloves.

Open to lynching:
Cruelty, Snow White, Budja

Not Open to lynching:
DisgrustledSean, don_johnson, Sotty7, Riddick

Only if necessary:
Sidekick, WingsOWisdom, TeWuicah, SpyreX
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Post Post #303 (ISO) » Fri Mar 19, 2010 11:32 pm

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Can you explain why you're voting me please?

I'm honestly not really sure anymore - I don't think there's much of a case to be made for me being scumbuddies with DS (which has been a prevailing reason thus far given my 'delayed vote' on Fongoid after the DS wagon built up), and most of the rest has been speculation on the reasons behind my RVS.


Not only that, but you've expressed very, very little suspicion of me prior to this vote. You didn't appear to really agree with dj's case on me. Other than a little bit of stealth wagon discussion, the only time you've directly addressed me was when asking if I'd support one of the two larger wagons (Iceman and DS).

Just so we're clear, I don't like your vote, I don't like your lack of reasoning, I don't like the fact that you haven't seriously looked at me before this. I don't like the way you called dj ubertown and then pandered your vote to him.


In a fit of OMGUS-fuelled rage (or rather, your vote on me bringing you back into radar range), I had a quick look through your iso and to be honest, I don't see a whole heap of scumhunting. There's a lot of town reads, there's a few rants on wagons, support for this, coasting on that, there's some jibber jabber about the length of day 1 and a bit of investigation as to Riddick's real identity, but not a whole heap of pointed accusations founded on logic and reason.

In fact, the only example of scumhunting looks to be your iso post 3, which is a massive wallpost discussing first some RVS votes then some speculation about wagons forming, people parroting etc. It all ends though, with the declaration that Sidekick and S7 are town.

On that note:
Hoopla wrote:Although Riddick's activity and attempts to push the game forward seem more town than anything.
Hoopla wrote:Sidekick and Sotty are probably town.
Hoopla wrote:
Spyrex wrote: What do you think about this latest Sidekick / Riddick exchange
My guess is town/town
Hoopla wrote:Don has really lit up the Iceman slot with the townie goodness
These aren't the only examples of Hoopla calling people town (there's more, both direct and indirect), and following are the quotes where Hoopla calls people scummy"
Hoopla (referring to Budja, Riddick and Spyrex) wrote:My early guess is one of these three is scum.
She never actually refers to anyone else as scum. There are a couple vague allusions to these beliefs (asking for Spyrex to jump on the Budja wagon and some coaching for Sidekick to pick up her game [iso 14]) but nothing outright.

Her vote on the DS wagon:
Hoopla wrote:Jah, good posting. I don't see much motivation, or explaination for the Iceman target too - it's a whole lot of filler, with little content behind it. And of the little content posted, it's fairly contradictory. Sorry Budja, but you'll have to wait.

Unvote, vote: DisgruntledSean
No outright accusations, really just agreement with WoW's post.


Conclusion? Hoopla is flying below the radar, trying not to ruffle feathers. Voteworthy? Probably, I'm still in favour of a Fongoid/Snow White lynch - I think Fongoid lied + I'm not getting a good gut feeling from either of them - but would be happy to lynch Hoopla too.

Summary:

- Looking for a lynch based on convenience rather than guilt. I suppose this is possibly null this close to deadline.
- Never expressed suspicion of me before (or Snow White).
- Lots of town reads, very, very few scum reads.
- No conviction behind any of her votes. I didn't really mention it above, but her 3 votes have been: RVS on Budja, agreement with WoW/bandwagoning on DS, convenience vote on me.
- Coaching of Sidekick (null without knowledge of Sidekick's alignment).
- Lack of game-related content, a LOT of theory/appeals to wagon somebody ANYBODY prior to deadline.

Actually, talked myself out of wanting a Fongoid lynch.

vote: Hoopla
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Post Post #304 (ISO) » Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:22 am

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^ I must say that while I disagree with cruelty, he does sound fairly sincere ATM.

I'd be happiest with Snow White or Sidekick.
Not keen on Snow's WIFOM on Sidekick in her last post. Didn't mind the rest of her posting though.

Those two show the least "townie-ness" anyway.

vote: Sidekick
, I can't remeber anything good out of him for a long while.

(no cases here, I'll see if I can get a reread in ASAP :P)
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Post Post #305 (ISO) » Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:02 am

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back from v/la. will read up later when headache goes away + post
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Post Post #306 (ISO) » Sat Mar 20, 2010 6:56 am

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I am a little confused by the sky is falling routine Hoopster but.

I'm a little more confused by Snow's weird letting Sidekick off the hook - when, really, I haven't seen anything that strikes me as "newbie not knowing what they're doing" versus "playing a really, really low-key game.'

The part that gets me the most is, again, the ebb and flow of the posting. When players have Betlejuice syndrome I'm a bit more apt to call shenanigans.

So, WITH OUR POWERS COMBINED:

Vote: Sidekick

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Post Post #307 (ISO) » Sat Mar 20, 2010 7:49 am

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This is nothing more than a vote of confidence in SpyreX's scumhunting capabilities and having nothing else to go on.

Vote Sidekick


Budja. You'd be happy to lynch me based on my opinion on scum doing one thing as opposed to the other. LOL. Cause thats a lynchworthy feat. I do so as town but thats how i felt and i dont see why i should hide that.

I have only skimmed again. No indepth drunk ramblings .Clear and sober. Im getting the plane home tomorrow and should have more time to review and evaluate then.
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Post Post #308 (ISO) » Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:21 am

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I am most greviously disappointed with lack of posts since my last. Maybe i insane in membrane but i think a few people forgot to clarify what their issue was with me when i replaced in. I would like most graciously to address any and all problems in one big post if not today then hopefully anon.

Budja and Cruely. From memory this is addressed at both of you.

Budja. i refuse to accept that you would base a potential lynch on the use of WIFOM.

Cruelty. i think right now, you may be scraping the bottom of a barrel in regard to getting a Hoopla wagon instated but i am prepared to listen to you once Hoopla has amassed more posts worth disecting and a more intriguing Vote Pattern.
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Post Post #309 (ISO) » Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:27 am

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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH LET ME POST
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Post Post #310 (ISO) » Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:27 am

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sorry was getting white screen errors. now i feet stupid. brb retyping what i had, unless chrome still has it :blush:
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Post Post #311 (ISO) » Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:30 am

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ds's claim is very likely legit, i had a town read on him early on anyway so w/e, yeah, don't want to lynch him.

a cruelty lynch doesn't interest me, i get the same reason on him as i do most games, and his last post was pretty good, even if hoopla looks OK to me.

i'll need to re-read sidekick.

I think atm i prefer a snow white lynch to any other, fongoid was p scummy IMO, and i haven't seen a whole lot from her to help me change my mind.
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Post Post #312 (ISO) » Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:59 am

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i can certainly go for a snow white lynch.
sw wrote:Budja. i refuse to accept that you would base a potential lynch on the use of WIFOM.
sounds a little odd coming from someone willing to lynch based on this:
sw wrote:This is nothing more than a vote of confidence in SpyreX's scumhunting capabilities and having nothing else to go on.
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Post Post #313 (ISO) » Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:19 pm

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Snow White wrote:This is nothing more than a vote of confidence in SpyreX's scumhunting capabilities and having nothing else to go on.

Vote Sidekick
Yeah I'm pretty happy with my initial Fongoid read.
Snow White wrote:i think a few people forgot to clarify what their issue was with me when i replaced in.
I think your predecessor was a liar and a villain. I have a bad gut reading from you.




Yeah I can't really see a Hoopla wagon gaining steam today so I'll shift back to SW if necessary.
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Post Post #314 (ISO) » Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:42 pm

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unvote, vote: snow white


let's get it moving then.
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Post Post #315 (ISO) » Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:43 pm

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unvote vote snow white
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Post Post #316 (ISO) » Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:50 pm

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Vote Count No. 12


don_johnson (1) - DisgruntledSean
DisgruntledSean (3) - WingsOWisdom, Sidekick, TeWuicah
Hoopla (1) - Cruelty
Cruelty (1) - Hoopla
Sidekick (3) - Budja, Spyrex, Snow White
Snow White (2) - don_johnson, Riddick

Not voting (1) - Sotty7

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch.


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Post Post #317 (ISO) » Sat Mar 20, 2010 1:27 pm

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@Snow, We need a lynch now so I am not that fussy. That statement, wishy-washyness on a players scumminess and your sheepish behaviour put you on my willing to lynch-list.

I did a quick ISO of Sidekick and he exhibits worse wishy-washyness than your statement. I like cruelty point in his post294.
cruelty wrote:
Sidekick wrote:That said Gunsmith seems like a decent claim to me, however I'd also like to point out he dodged claiming for a day. Perhaps to take the time to look up an obscure believiable claim?
Eh, this is unprovable speculation. Not really sure why you'd say this other than to subtly try to discredit DS. Motivation for that would at first glance appear to be scum trying to tip a slowing mislynch wagon over the edge.
So yeah, Sidekick > Snow > anyone else.
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Post Post #318 (ISO) » Sat Mar 20, 2010 1:33 pm

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@mod, could you fix up my quote tags please.
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Post Post #319 (ISO) » Sat Mar 20, 2010 1:36 pm

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unvote, vote snow white


riddick wrote:a cruelty lynch doesn't interest me, i get the same reason on him as i do most games, and his last post was pretty good, even if hoopla looks OK to me.
I've played with you before?
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Post Post #320 (ISO) » Sat Mar 20, 2010 2:34 pm

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yeah.
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Post Post #321 (ISO) » Sat Mar 20, 2010 2:39 pm

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Thanks Julien.
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Post Post #322 (ISO) » Sat Mar 20, 2010 10:37 pm

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Since im the inevitable lynch and everyone
(cruelty, hoopla, budja, DisgruntledSean, DJ, Riddick)
is okay with lynching me
(because insert worthwhile reasons not provided, here)
and i only foresee more votes as time ticks down what with people turning into feckless headless chickens and running crazy with their votes.
I feel it requisite to notify you all that you will be lynching the person protecting your "gunsmith" tonight.

Awesome!!


Now im not saying i know who the scum is but FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, WRONG WAY, WRONG WAY!!
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Post Post #323 (ISO) » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:47 am

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cruelty wrote:Can you explain why you're voting me please?
It wasn't a strong vote, I freely admit this- mostly because the two prime suspects of the town suddenly swung town. It was mostly a gut call, but in an attempt to quantify it, it was because it was something that a couple of my town reads were open to, and advocating which gave me a bit more confidence. Maybe you just have a scummy vibe you emit that attracts fencesitters like me?

I get the feeling you'll be safe for now anyway. Snow White has claimed a protection role?

~~

Well, that really only leaves Sidekick with a decent amount of support, and isn't a claimed beneficial role;

Unvote, vote: Sidekick
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Post Post #324 (ISO) » Sun Mar 21, 2010 12:05 pm

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Unvote Vote Sidekick
I guess. I don't see us lynching a claimed doc day 1, and sidekick seems to be the only alternative for a lynch with 22 hours untill deadline.
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