oh.Parama wrote:SIR CYANIDE is anti-town.
how?
You don't see how the order matters? How much more info do you think we will gain by lynching a "jackass" over "scum"?Parama wrote: Both die either way? I dunno. If you REALLY want to wait until night to get rid of him, I'd be willing to abandon the wagon for my Leafsnail case. Still don't see why the order matters... the only thing that could possibly change both dying in my scenario is a mafia doctor being on Leafsnail. But that requires for a maf doc to be in the game, and I'm not sure how common that is.
Also I forgot, role speculation sucks. *hits self*
Has he done an ounce of scumhunting yet?Shrinehme wrote:oh.Parama wrote:SIR CYANIDE is anti-town.
how?
I like it when mafia games are taken seriously, thank you.Henry Hathaway wrote:Everyone here is a scum.
Vote: Henry Hathaway
What information are we losing if Leafsnail is vigged and CYANIDE is lynched? (seriously, I don't know, if there's something I'm missing here feel free to explain it)Fate wrote:You don't see how the order matters? How much more info do you think we will gain by lynching a "jackass" over "scum"?
Not particularly interested in appeasing anyone. I'll vote for who I want to vote, thank you.Fate wrote:Also this quote Fateparaphrased: "If you REALLY want me to appease you, I'll abandon my policy lynch and actually vote who I think is scum, fine."
Confirm for me, please, that you earnestly believe that the following is not pushing for Cyanide's lynch and that this is merely an RVS vote:Parama wrote:ITT Shrinehme doesn't understand RVS logic. That's nothing worthy of a vote, to tell you the truth. Trying to call his RVS logic scummy logic and then vote him for it is scummy logic itself.Shrinehme wrote:It's also safe and unhelpful.Chronopie wrote:random dice is random. Or broken
When did this happen?Blue wrote:I thought we agreed on mass lynching him due to his unpleasant and anti-feminist behaviour already.
No it doesn't make him more likely to be scum.Blue wrote:Also, the random number generator chose him twice (1/400 chance) which is a good enough reason for me to get rid of him immediately.
Vote: BlueFoS: Shrinehme
I mean, I'm all for disagreements, but I really don't see how thisBlue wrote:Vote: Sir Cyanide
I thought we agreed on mass lynching him due to his unpleasant and anti-feminist behaviour already.
"Rushing" is weird word choice, though I guess you're right, I was rushing him. Sounds negative though, like you think it's scummy. I want[ed] him to place a vote. I have to get reads on him somehow, and I'm not getting very much from: "Oh, RVS is over! Unvote!"Parama wrote:Rushing, anyone?Shrinehme wrote:Then why haven't you placed a non-random vote?Shattered Viewpoint wrote:I had a feeling we were about to leave the Random Stage.Konowa wrote:@Shattered: Why the unvote?
I mean, seriously, the game just started. There's no need to force players to vote yet. We're not in RVS but that doesn't mean that everyone needs to be voting.
HeParama wrote:He's not pushing for the wagon, he RVS'ed onto it. Failing to realize this means the most likely:Shrinehme wrote:Well of course the consequences of lynching him isn't "x loses".
That's a sneaky way to neglect the fact that it will inevitably give the Town or Scum an unfair [debatable?] advantage.
Pushing a wagon for someone whom hasn't done anything particularly scummy is a good vote to me.
a) You didn't read the thread
b) You want to get the wagon off of your scumbuddy and onto a townie
And I think you've read the thread, so b) is the option I'm picking.
You don't have leads, but you think Blue is the best lynch so far? Say wut? Explain yourself. Isn't your lead on Blue right now?Meh wrote: Thus far, I haven't really had any leads. Regarding the last part of your post, though- I'd say WIFOM is often a nulltell. Blue is the best lynch so far, but that's only because I haven't really noticed anything scummy from anybody else. I'd like to hear his defence against your vote though.
Hahahaha. This is epic because you just nailed something very important here.Fate wrote: You realized you just called for a vig on the SCUM and a lynch on a coinflip.
I thought this might have been a joke, but he doesn't stop defending a Cyanide lynch for this reason.Blue wrote:Vote: Sir Cyanide
I thought we agreed on mass lynching him due to his unpleasant and anti-feminist behaviour already. Also, the random number generator chose him twice (1/400 chance) which is a good enough reason for me to get rid of him immediately.
It's great that you don't think you'd be obvious, but your complete disregard for anything useful that could come out of the first day is scummy. You say that on the first day there is not much to go on. I agree with this, but at the same time you advocate a policy lynch, which does exactly the opposite of promote discussion which we can analyze in the future. If we lynch someone right away with zero reasoning, then day two becomes just as useless as day one because all of the posts from day one were just fluff centered around the policy lynch. Fluff is bad; fluff is impossible to read because it doesn't actually have anything to do with the game.Blue wrote:Ah, but if I were mafia I wouldn't be half so obvious. Because then I'd anticipate receiving votes from tunnel-vision players like yourself.Shrinehme wrote:Pushing a wagon for someone whom hasn't done anything particularly scummy is a good vote to me.
In the first round, nobody generally does anything scummy anyway. I just want to get rid of a player who is likely to cause offense.
I meant that nobody had really done anything to merit a lynch, disregarding Sir Cyanide, whom I voted for later, which you noted. (Runonsentencelolfail)DTMaster wrote:Oi wait a minute
@MehYou don't have leads, but you think Blue is the best lynch so far? Say wut? Explain yourself. Isn't your lead on Blue right now?Meh wrote: Thus far, I haven't really had any leads. Regarding the last part of your post, though- I'd say WIFOM is often a nulltell. Blue is the best lynch so far, but that's only because I haven't really noticed anything scummy from anybody else. I'd like to hear his defence against your vote though.
Dear potential Vigilante(s) #2,SpyreX wrote: However, if he doesn't take a bullet tonight a vig better not even bother claiming because I'm not going to believe it. And I'm going to actively hope people just quote this line and then vote for them if I'm not around
SIR CYANIDE wrote:SpyreX is just one person and therefore his opinion is only worth so much. Nobody is going to follow him blindly
Discussion.Parama, post 155 wrote:What information are we losing if Leafsnail is vigged and CYANIDE is lynched? (seriously, I don't know, if there's something I'm missing here feel free to explain it)
Just looked at the queue myself for sign-ups. I was the only one who stated that I was in to quick lynch SIR I don't see it as everyone agreeing based on my one comment.Parama wrote:Leafsnail tomorrow, we agreed to policy lynch SIR CYANIDE D1 in the sign-ups thread and there's good reason to (if you're reading this thread at all should be obvious.)Fate wrote:Guys, Parama just "double HOS'd" Leafsnail, but his vote is on the joke/policy wagon.
Unvote:
Vote: Parama
Am I missing something here?
Yes call it a scum move if you want. It's not. It's an incredibly townie thing to do because SIR CYANIDE is anti-town.
Leafsnail is probably scum, so he can get vigged tonight if we have one of those (it's likely).
My vote stays.
voting on players gives info that is why if someone is scummier with more valid reasoning then policy lynching then the town can read the wagon and the players that voted. That is the difference between voting and vigging.Both die either way? I dunno. If you REALLY want to wait until night to get rid of him, I'd be willing to abandon the wagon for my Leafsnail case. Still don't see why the order matters... the only thing that could possibly change both dying in my scenario is a mafia doctor being on Leafsnail.
Agreed. Scenarios like this, where a player makes a greater case against Player A, a small point about Player B, and then votes Player B, is usually maf distancing from their partner and trying to get a townie lynch instead. It's in MY book of tells, if you must know