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Post Post #400 (ISO) » Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:52 pm

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Busdrivers are uncommon in Mini's, but given this set-up I think it's possible but still a longshot. Roleblocker is possible (but why no Sean block?) - scum would need some power to counter what the town has. But if there is a Mafia Godfather/Priest, that could be adequate power against a gunsmith, which is by far the most useful of all the roles so far.

I think the Godfather type role is more likely, otherwise I would have expected scum to block Sean, unless they're using him to out potential powerroles.
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Post Post #401 (ISO) » Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:55 pm

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I am a lowly vanilla, but I will save my thoughts until after everyone claims.
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Post Post #402 (ISO) » Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:02 pm

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I think I believe Budja's claim - if it's fake he's essentially guessing what someone's role is. That could easily catch him out if he guessed wrong. I suppose he had decent odds of hitting a vanilla if all the other PR claims are true.

While I'm at it;

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Post Post #403 (ISO) » Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:04 pm

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I could see shying away from Sean if you thought there was a tracker or watcher. Those would have been instant death.

I believe SW. I believe Sean. I even tend to believe Budja.
I think Hoop and Cue are town.

I think thats gonna be a wrap. I'd like the claims out before we lynch, of course.
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Post Post #404 (ISO) » Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:04 pm

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Post Post #405 (ISO) » Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:08 pm

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SpyreX wrote:I could see shying away from Sean if you thought there was a tracker or watcher. Those would have been instant death.
And considering Snow was talking about protecting him too. This makes me more confident that scum don't have an RB, but maybe a GF/Priest instead to be immune from investigations.
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Post Post #406 (ISO) » Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:13 pm

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I GUESS godfather works ok. It just doesn't seem enough to counterbalance the coposity.

Well... hmm. Budja I want as much clarification on how your role works as possible.
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Post Post #407 (ISO) » Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:13 pm

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Why is Cue town again SpyreX?
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Post Post #408 (ISO) » Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:17 pm

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380.

Really give that one a read and try to sink into the thought processes behind it. I instinctively went "vanilla town or really pro coy scum"
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Post Post #409 (ISO) » Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:21 pm

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SpyreX wrote:380.

Really give that one a read and try to sink into the thought processes behind it. I instinctively went "vanilla town or really pro coy scum"
It feels town, but I think you're overrelying on the information there in that post.
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Post Post #410 (ISO) » Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:24 pm

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I wouldn't save him from the wolves but its definitely more than enough to push him to the happy side for the day.

I'm surprised you haven't asked why I'm so confident about you. ;)
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Post Post #411 (ISO) » Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:27 pm

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SpyreX wrote:I wouldn't save him from the wolves but its definitely more than enough to push him to the happy side for the day.

I'm surprised you haven't asked why I'm so confident about you. ;)
I think the more compelling evidence is the claim he didn't go anywhere last night which partially clears him from being mafia.

That one isn't in doubt to me - but go on, tell me anyway.
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Post Post #412 (ISO) » Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:29 pm

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Trying to push from Sidekick to Budja. It didn't add up for me as a scum move. Now, of course you could be pulling a fast one but.
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Post Post #413 (ISO) » Wed Mar 31, 2010 7:09 pm

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I'm just vt.

I don't really understand why you're clearing Hoopla for derailing a page 3 wagon.
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Post Post #414 (ISO) » Thu Apr 01, 2010 1:41 am

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Ftr. im totally hopeless at set ups and stuff but as was said scum must have some roles to counter balance the roles town have. My biggest issue is whether or not some of the outted roles are town.

Whose claiming next if this is what we're pushing ahead with?

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Post Post #415 (ISO) » Thu Apr 01, 2010 5:57 am

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I thought this is a mini normal game?

Anyway, I have been crazy busy lately so I haven't be able to put the effort needed into this game which is bad form for me. A massclaim sounds like a good idea what with some power roles out already. I am tempted to believe what people have claimed which makes me think the scum team must have some counter balances to it all.

Anyway, just tell me when I should claim. I am hoping to be able to put some real time into this game come tomorrow and over the weekend.
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Post Post #416 (ISO) » Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:34 am

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Hoopla
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That's my preferred order
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Post Post #417 (ISO) » Thu Apr 01, 2010 12:35 pm

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No, I think you'll find WingsOWisdom is going next. Wings, when you're ready.
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Post Post #418 (ISO) » Thu Apr 01, 2010 12:36 pm

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I'm fine with that although I'd love the rationale.
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Post Post #419 (ISO) » Thu Apr 01, 2010 12:40 pm

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SpyreX wrote:I'm fine with that although I'd love the rationale.
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Post Post #420 (ISO) » Thu Apr 01, 2010 12:43 pm

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.... What?

It's been a long day of meetings so I can't even begin to figure that one out.
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Post Post #421 (ISO) » Thu Apr 01, 2010 12:45 pm

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It's a breadcrumb so I can't alter my role based on the next two following claims, which eliminates the scum motivation to want to claim
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Post Post #422 (ISO) » Thu Apr 01, 2010 2:22 pm

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This looks interesting...
Saving my views until this is all finished.

@Julien, could we get a prod or some acknowledgement that Wings is still here.
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Post Post #423 (ISO) » Thu Apr 01, 2010 2:29 pm

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Ahh so we're both thinking the same thing just going about it different ways. Gotcha.
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Post Post #424 (ISO) » Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:07 pm

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vote: hoopla


Still not convinced (as per my post yesterday) and I don't at all like Spyrex's reason for clearing her. Page 3 wagon derailments do not an innocent make at all, especially in the absence of serious suspicion for the rest of the day.

Also, this:
Hoopla wrote:The only other possibility I can think of is Spyre taking advantage of a roleclaim that he can get a solid fakeclaim in on, but again, this is also very unlikely, because he wouldn't know if there are other doc roles to contradict him.
Spyrex wrote:I didn't see the crumb so I assumed NORMAL doc and well.
If he assumed normal doc, then it's reasonable (per your above quote) to suspect his claim isn't legit (as why would town have more than one normal doc?). Seems odd to me that you let this slide.

I'm not actually that suspicious of Spyrex, I'm not a huge fan of his letting Hoopla slide for something that in my eyes isn't really significant at all (I'd consider her pushing Budja's wagon over a confirmed townie to be less noteworthy than her almost complete lack of offence throughout the entire game) but I think the villain in this weird dynamic the two of them have got going on is Hoopla.

I also think the claim thing is a little odd but I guess we'll see what happens there. I don't really see the point of breadcrumbing when there's only two players left to claim (and statistically I'd expect them to likely be vt given we've had 3 power roles + one [Hoopla] presumed).
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