Mini 937 - Mafia on Death Row OVER

[pickemgenius]

I will literally jump off a bridge if I don't post some long drawn out analysis with solid facts and personal opinions by mid day the 5th.

I'm about to go to sleep now, or i'd start now.

If you want to yell at me then IM me and be all. Hey fuckhead, go post your shit already.

[My Milked Eek]

1 Solution just came to mind:

Deathsauce is a jester-type role who has to get nightkilled to win.

Oh god, you serious?

Also, busy finding eggs and eating them.

[Damon_Gant]

If there are two night kills tomorrow night, then DeathSauce is in pretty big trouble. If he's mafia, then he surely wouldn't take the risk that the second kill was an SK or an unlimited shots vig

I doubt deathsauce is a vigilante or a SK. But if deathsauce thought a second night kill wouldn't happen since a one shot vigilante already used his ability then it makes sense for him to be mafia.

Now that I think about it, the sacrifice theory is wrong since a one shot vigilante would be pointless to get rid of.

I think you're thinking about this all wrong. Why would scum assume that a possible vig in this game is one-shot. Suppose DS is scum, and we don't have a one-shot vig, rather a regular one. Then he's done for. There's no way he would take this risk as mafia, completely unprovoked too. Also, scum DeathSauce would have to take into account that the second kill could be from an SK as well. Again, this would be disaster for him. There is no reason he'd take the risk of an unprovoked claim when there is clearly no reward.

The only solution to the problem is that he's a vig, for me, based on some Sherlock Holmes philosophy of involving eliminating all of the possibilities and the truth being whatever remains. If DS is scum, trust me, we'll find out very easily and quite soon (i.e. Day 3).

For today, DS is untouchable as far as I'm concerned.

In other news, I wait eagerly for some sort of opinions from PEG. Being as he's had basically no opinions about anything all game.

[Damon_Gant]

In other news, I wait eagerly for some sort of opinions from PEG. Being as he's had basically no opinions about anything all game.

Sorry, I just read this and it sounded like me saying exactly the same thing I've said a million times just tacked on. It was meant to be a reply to the fact that he has promised to post soon.

[DeathSauce]

@deathsauce: Plz answer my question, what role are you actually?

I have gone through every possiblity and there is no logical explanation for deathsauce to claim vigilante.

I think you are missing a fairly obvious explanation, I'm a one-shot vigilante.

I didn't invent or falsify anything about my role, and claimed because Nacho seemed to be asking why SSK was NK'ed and if it was pro-town.

And now, speaking of Nacho, I continue to see a strange teacher-pupil dynamic between Nacho and GD. The exchange where Nacho voted GD until he gave a (horrible) reason to suppose I'm scum was bizarre.

I vote to lynch the teacher, he's more dangerous.

Unvote. Vote: Nachomomma8

[DeathRowKitty]

Votecount A000010

Zodiark13 (2) [My Milked Eek, Nachomamma8]
pickemgenius (2) [Super Awesome Mega Pimp!, Damon_Gant]
DeathSauce (1) [GreenDude]
Nachomamma8 (1) [DeathSauce]
GreenDude (0) []
Damon_Gant (0) []
My Milked Eek (0) []
Super Awesome Mega Pimp! (0) []
wolframnhart (0) []
Not voting (3) [pickemgenius, wolframnhart, Zodiark13]

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Deadline is currently April 16 at 9:30pm EST (April 17 at 2:30am GMT), but will probably be extended to account for decreased posting around Easter. The length of time of this extension is yet to be determined.

Happy Easter! As a treat, have this heartwarming picture!

[GreenDude]

Let me explain my reasoning as to why deathsauce can't be anything:

He can't be scum, too much risk of a vigilante counter claiming or a second kill during the night.

He can't be town fake claiming one shot vigilante because a vigilante could counter claim and lynch him, which is bad for the town.

He can't be serial killer since he would have to kill the second night.

And if he isn't an actual one shot vigilante then what is he?!?

[My Milked Eek]

I'm not seeing the issue you have with DS being the OSV then, as that would fit your three little scenarios there.

[GreenDude]

I'm starting to think that deathsauce is actually a vigilante.

It makes sense he would want to claim so that people think he has used up his ability and then surprise the mafia later on. And it explains how there wouldn't be a second kill in night 2. And it also explains why deathsauce insists he's a one shot vigilante.

[Super Awesome Mega Zord!]

@deathsauce: Plz answer my question, what role are you actually?

I have gone through every possiblity and there is no logical explanation for deathsauce to claim vigilante.

Assuming other players think like you is a mistake. You might think it's illogical for an OSV to claim the way DS did,

and you might even be right

, but it's not important. What's important is whether DS thought it was logical to claim the way he did. And it's obvious to me that he did think it was logical.

[Super Awesome Mega Zord!]

EBWOP: didn't see that post above mine.

[Damon_Gant]

@deathsauce: Plz answer my question, what role are you actually?

I have gone through every possiblity and there is no logical explanation for deathsauce to claim vigilante.

Assuming other players think like you is a mistake. You might think it's illogical for an OSV to claim the way DS did,

and you might even be right

, but it's not important. What's important is whether DS thought it was logical to claim the way he did. And it's obvious to me that he did think it was logical.

While this post was made irrelevant by GD's post above, I think this is a seriously important concept in the game of mafia. We'd all do well to remember it. It's even an important concept in real life to be honest!

[DeathSauce]

I'm starting to think that deathsauce is actually a vigilante.

It makes sense he would want to claim so that people think he has used up his ability and then surprise the mafia later on. And it explains how there wouldn't be a second kill in night 2. And it also explains why deathsauce insists he's a one shot vigilante.

Why would you post this? First of all, it makes no sense, once again you are confidently predicting what is going to happen at night, and secondly it is anti-town from beginning to end.

Can we please lynch GD or his scumbuddy Nacho today?

[DeathRowKitty]

Votecount A000010

Zodiark13 (2) [My Milked Eek, Nachomamma8]
pickemgenius (2) [Super Awesome Mega Pimp!, Damon_Gant]
DeathSauce (1) [GreenDude]
Nachomamma8 (1) [DeathSauce]
GreenDude (0) []
Damon_Gant (0) []
My Milked Eek (0) []
Super Awesome Mega Pimp! (0) []
wolframnhart (0) []
Not voting (3) [pickemgenius, wolframnhart, Zodiark13]

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Considering that there wasn't any significant drop-off in posting over the past few days, deadline will only be extended one day. Deadline is currently April 17 at 9:30pm EST (April 18 at 2:30am GMT),

[My Milked Eek]

PEG should be looking for that bridge now...

[Zodiark13]

I was about to say something to that effect.

[wolframnhart]

Vote Peg

if he is going to promise content without doing so, I say let's make a bridge for him.

[Zodiark13]

Lynch All Liars, or Lynch All Lurkers?

I say both.

Vote: pickemgenius

For lurking with intent, and therefore failing his promise of providing content.

[GreenDude]

Why would you post this? First of all, it makes no sense, once again you are confidently predicting what is going to happen at night, and secondly it is anti-town from beginning to end.

I am trying to explain how it is possible for deathsauce to have a role at all. Why are you saying that I'm predicting what is going to happen? I said that my theory explains why there wouldn't be a second nightkill and you are confirming that that will happen?

The whole reason this started is because you were and are lying about being a one shot vigilante. Lying is anti-town when people find out you are lying.

[GreenDude]

Pickemgenius is at L-1 btw so Nacho can't say he didn't notice.

[GreenDude]

DeathSauce it is time for you to claim again. Because your one shot vigilante claim is no longer possible unless there are 2 osv's in this game.

The only reason I know deathsauce is lying about being a one shot vigilante, is because I'm the one shot vigilante.

And deathsauce, you were completely wrong. I killed magnaofillusion during the night because I knew the mafia would want to kill mafiassk.

[DeathSauce]

That would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad.

But OK, I'll play along. You are the one-shot vig. Why did you kill Magna on Night One? What pro-town purpose did you serve by using your ONE SHOT on your very first opportunity?

[Super Awesome Mega Zord!]

Bolding for emphasis:

DeathSauce it is time for you to claim again. Because your one shot vigilante claim is no longer possible unless there are 2 osv's in this game.

The only reason

I know deathsauce is lying about being a one shot vigilante

, is because I'm the one shot vigilante.

And deathsauce, you were completely wrong. I killed magnaofillusion during the night because

I knew the mafia would want to kill mafiassk

.

Nice try on the fakeclaim, but if you really thought DS was lying because of his vig claim, you'd have thought the same thing about SSK.

Unvote, vote: GreenDude

[DeathSauce]

Also, you have still never posted your reasons for voting easjo, which you said you would do on March 28.

[wolframnhart]

Ok something is so wrong here.

@GD
A)Why did you not counter claim right away?
B)Why did you choose Magna out of everyone else to kill? As far as I could tell i didn't see you mentioning him at all as possible scum yesterday (if this is wrong please point me out to the quote mentioning it).