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Post Post #1425 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:25 pm

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Super Smash Bros. Fan wrote:Sorry for acting like a newb, but what exactly is deflection? I haven't really seen it on Mafiascum Wiki.
When you try to deflect negative attention off of yourself onto someone else, usually while avoiding points made against you.

And with that,
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Post Post #1426 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:44 pm

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Hmmm. I think I see something here...

...no wait.....Nope. Still seeing
BS
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I haven't "avoided" any points made against me Pom. Nice try there :roll:

I've attacked them straight on, and gave them no room to breathe.

I'm still getting this "He's scum! Let's just lynch him already God dammit!!" mentality when people vote me.
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Post Post #1427 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:48 pm

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Midnight's Sorrow wrote:I haven't "avoided" any points made against me Pom. Nice try there :roll:
You're implying that I accused you of doing so.
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Post Post #1428 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:51 pm

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Well Pom, when you say what you said about deflection and vote me all on the same post, it kinda seems that way now doesn't it?
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Post Post #1429 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:54 pm

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Well, I definitely didn't (mean to, if it seems like I did or anything) accuse you of avoiding points of mine.

And I was answering ssbf.
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Post Post #1430 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2010 4:15 pm

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Forgive me, but I can't jump on the MS wagon that fast. I voted Chronopie D1 for doing just that, and I'm not ready to make myself a hypocrite just yet.

@Spyrex: My understanding of your case on him is A) a strong gut read, and B) what amounts to active lurking, am I correct? I don't see why Dr Robotnik doesn't follow the same pattern. Everyone was happy to string him up after nacho's case, but now suddenly he's not such a sure thing based on YOUR read. That's not good enough for me. 'Splain.
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Post Post #1431 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2010 4:20 pm

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I don't think MS would be bussing. Thus, a scum flip here definitely lessens the chance of Robotnik being scum and just, instead, a VI.

I'm not sure where you're getting I'm defending robotnik. I want my list killed but him being added to the murderlist sure thing
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Post Post #1432 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2010 4:30 pm

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I don't think that you are defending robotnik, I think you are excluding him from this death list even though he has displayed the same scum tells as some of the people on it, most notably your primary lynch target. I don't understand why. Are you trying to give him a second chance?
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Post Post #1433 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2010 4:44 pm

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Timeater wrote:Oh god its SpyreX

run
Scumconscience?

Rggh, I'm digging your style, Spy, but I wish you'd chosen someone other than MS. I know you won't take meta arguments, but when I was literally in a game that was running AS THIS GAME was running and was scum, and got MS lynched with essentially exactly the same sort of reasons, I'm really not hungry to jump on the wagon.

Also, could you detail a littlem ore clearly your view of the claims? I know you've made a few predictions but there's a lot of bustle in your (admittedly awesome) posts and I just want to nail down where you are on them.
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Post Post #1434 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2010 4:49 pm

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The reason most people voting me want me gone, isn't because I'm scum, but because Ive ruffled their feathers in some way :roll:

Spyrx, Your just as hypocritical as Leaf was, when asked why he chose one out of all the ones that the very same accusations could apply to, only to ignore the question, and stick with that one to the exclusion of all else.

Your gut is also wrong~
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Post Post #1435 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2010 4:55 pm

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Ehhhhhhhhh....

No I can't do it. My gut just keeps insisting that he is town.

His vote on Sevis keeps sending me for loops. I need to evaluate what night talk the night before would lead up to that post, what that would say about any scum team that he is a part of and what his scum buddies would have done when he made that post. (I want to say a MS with a team would have been coached into not making a vote that is guaranteed to draw the ire of others.)
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Post Post #1436 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2010 5:06 pm

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I don't think that you are defending robotnik, I think you are excluding him from this death list even though he has displayed the same scum tells as some of the people on it, most notably your primary lynch target. I don't understand why. Are you trying to give him a second chance?


A lot of it is the MS vote. A whole lot.
Rggh, I'm digging your style, Spy, but I wish you'd chosen someone other than MS. I know you won't take meta arguments, but when I was literally in a game that was running AS THIS GAME was running and was scum, and got MS lynched with essentially exactly the same sort of reasons, I'm really not hungry to jump on the wagon.

Also, could you detail a littlem ore clearly your view of the claims? I know you've made a few predictions but there's a lot of bustle in your (admittedly awesome) posts and I just want to nail down where you are on them.
I dig that and if this is just lol, play welp. As it sits though I can't buy it. The volume of nothing is amazing.

The claims?

Nhammen is probably a roleblocker - its such a weird role to LIE about. Alignment? Yep, even though he's on my death list I still say town by a margin.

The Masons? Well, aside from the crazy lord who is just crazy Faraday seems pretty town sooo I think it might have been smoke-and-mirrors moddery where by not SLAM DUNK confirming them they eat each other alive (see crazy lord).
Further I have an issue with symmetry and Lynch is my #1 town read BEFORE the claim so the mystical last member probably town.

Is there others I've missed?
Ehhhhhhhhh....

No I can't do it. My gut just keeps insisting that he is town.

His vote on Sevis keeps sending me for loops. I need to evaluate what night talk the night before would lead up to that post, what that would say about any scum team that he is a part of and what his scum buddies would have done when he made that post. (I want to say a MS with a team would have been coached into not making a vote that is guaranteed to draw the ire of others.)
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Post Post #1437 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2010 5:10 pm

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I would vastly prefer a Shrinescum lynch.
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Post Post #1438 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2010 5:15 pm

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Shrine replaced Sevis? I'm down.

The murder squad can weigh in. My absolute belly-gut scum read that I can't quantify is still Goat because my lord but I digress.
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Post Post #1439 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2010 5:16 pm

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You know what?

Screw it!!

I'm so absolutely f-ing confident that Sevis/Shrine is scum, that I'll willingly go to f-ing noose myself the next day phase if he flips otherwise!

Robonik can wait!! I sees me some Sevis/Shrine scum~

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Post Post #1440 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2010 5:24 pm

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Who is this goat and who replaced him?
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Post Post #1441 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2010 5:24 pm

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Nikanor I think.
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Post Post #1442 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2010 5:25 pm

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Nik - who I liked one post of a decent chunk butttt
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Post Post #1443 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2010 5:43 pm

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Ok. I need to check whether or not that goat's milk is sour but I don't have the patience for it tonight. I'll do that tomorrow.
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Post Post #1444 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2010 7:21 pm

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Oh goodie wagons on all my top suspects!

I really like the entrances of all the replacements so far.
Midnight's Sorrow wrote:With two scum teams?? Pretty high sir.
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Post Post #1445 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2010 7:38 pm

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Psssst Dry-fit you're real close to that being dead list pick it up tia.
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Post Post #1446 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:27 am

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For God sake end this day.
I want to talk to the masons and monks. Anyone has any idea who the masons are? I lost track at the 3rd replacement for seraphim.

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Post Post #1447 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:58 am

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I'm going to agree with Midnight's Sorrow in where a scum roleblocker is pretty high, but there has been examples of town roleblockers. However, scum roleblockers tend to be more helpful to there alignment then town roleblockers. nhammen's actions has mostly made up for the mistakes he's made, but I'm not going to rule out the possibility that he could be scum.

@vezopiraka: Seraphim claimed Masons for him, daniel (Now Faraday), and you. You and LynchMePls also claimed Monks. And the third replacement is SpyreX.
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Post Post #1448 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2010 3:03 am

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i'll be back properly soon and stuff but just checking in.


Uh, I really still want Socrates dead. Raaize was scummy as fuck without the block and I think the block makes him MORE likely to be scum.

Nhammen is still town. Gut is screaming town from his play.

lemme see can I read up properly.
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Post Post #1449 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2010 3:12 am

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Town:
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I think they're all self explanatory^ some are stronger than others but w/e


Dr. Robotnik
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Midnight's Sorrow
Nachomamma8
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Socrates
Nikanor
Timeater

The people on the not town have varying degrees of scumminess. I'd not mind all of them dying at once though, in fact I think that it'd contain pretty much all the scum.

Socrates/Shrin/Dry-fit as my top 3 I think.

Unsure on the MS wagon, I'm not actively against it but I think there are better options.
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