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Post Post #1600 (ISO) » Wed Jun 16, 2010 4:10 am

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There's really no point in reading this thread, just give us your vote for now and catch up overnight.

CMAR does need to read the thread though.
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Post Post #1601 (ISO) » Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:01 am

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idr what's happening here from the downtime lemme read up...

oh wait yeah we're lynching scum >_> never mind.
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Post Post #1602 (ISO) » Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:03 am

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Battle Mage wrote:
Faraday wrote:Depends how long it takes you :P

ETA on a catch up would be helpful, but I don't suppose it matters as this day has been looooong.

Happy with the shrin lynch. I suppose we should get a claim before he goes but whatever.
haha cheeky git!

I'll start now shall i boss? :P

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Post Post #1603 (ISO) » Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:19 am

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A fair assessment.

Lets get this done. I'm waiting with a delicious hammer.
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Post Post #1604 (ISO) » Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:25 am

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Oh boy is it time for blood?
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Post Post #1605 (ISO) » Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:27 am

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It damn well better be
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Post Post #1606 (ISO) » Wed Jun 16, 2010 7:23 am

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CryMeARiver wrote:Seriously dude, I clearly said "After a quick bandwagon analysis..."
Hence, that is all I did - analyze bandwagons, quick reads coming up I hope
The main point of that post were that you voted a confirmed townie and that you gave us absolutely nothing to work on, which was absolutely inexcusable. You didn't explain why the person was worthy of a vote. Even a quick bandwagon analysis, you could have at least given us something to work on.

And please, do your catch-up post. I don't want excuses for not particapating in this game.
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Post Post #1607 (ISO) » Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:34 pm

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This game is in serious need of some action. If there is a day vig, you need to do something, cause this is ridiculous. We're at page 65 and we're on day 2. I've been in large theme games that are on day 6 before they hit page 60. If you are playing this game, and you aren't voting Shrine or Robotnik, you are seriously killing the game. It is tough to be enthusiastic about a game that is this mired down and doesn't have deadline for like another month.

Stale game is stale. Action please people.
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Post Post #1608 (ISO) » Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:49 pm

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Oh god, this game.
Mod: requesting massprod

Mod: requesting shorter deadlines permanently starting today
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Post Post #1609 (ISO) » Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:52 pm

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@LynchMePls: I agree, although I don't think the game is stale. For example, I'd like to see a fitting conclusion to Nachomamma8's case on Dr. Robotnik.

@Parama: Yes, shorter deadline would be fantastic. We would still be on Day 1 had we not lynched.
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Post Post #1610 (ISO) » Wed Jun 16, 2010 3:47 pm

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LynchMePls wrote:This game is in serious need of some action. If there is a day vig, you need to do something, cause this is ridiculous. We're at page 65 and we're on day 2. I've been in large theme games that are on day 6 before they hit page 60. If you are playing this game, and you aren't voting Shrine or Robotnik, you are seriously killing the game. It is tough to be enthusiastic about a game that is this mired down and doesn't have deadline for like another month.

Stale game is stale. Action please people.
That's a ridiculous suggestion. Boo to SSBF for buying it.

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Post Post #1611 (ISO) » Wed Jun 16, 2010 3:51 pm

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Vote: Midnight's Sorrow


If we're gonna random lynch, can we steer clear of the stagnant bandwagon that hasnt quite been completed. It's pretty evident that scum would have bussed Shrine by now if he was their buddy, and if he does flip scum, you can assume that most of them were on there.

I'd consider Robotnik as a lynch, but it seems there is more to be discussed there?

I won't bother reading till tomorrow if we're going to night soon. I'm not reading overnight either. lmao

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Post Post #1612 (ISO) » Wed Jun 16, 2010 4:15 pm

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Sevis/Shrine wagon is where the actions at~

A vote for this solt is a vote for scum~
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Post Post #1613 (ISO) » Wed Jun 16, 2010 4:37 pm

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Get. this. done.

Seriously there is no excuse a lynch needs to happen.

Posts after this that aren't votes are bad posts.
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Post Post #1614 (ISO) » Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:21 pm

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This is a bad post then :( But I've already voted.
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Post Post #1615 (ISO) » Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:37 pm

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Woo, forums are back. Parama and Spyrex are looking nicely scummy for the whole "hurry up and vote" stuff.

I also seem to recall SSBF talking about how shorter days are bad for the town (was that this game?) so it's downright scummy to see him going "Woohoo shorter deadlines!"
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Post Post #1616 (ISO) » Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:39 pm

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Unsight wrote:Woo, forums are back. Parama and Spyrex are looking nicely scummy for the whole "hurry up and vote" stuff.
*headdesk*

There's not a damn thing happening in this game right now. We need to lynch. Anyone who doesn't see this is a brick wall.
Fortunately, you're a brick wall anyways.
Are you voting Shrine yet? If not, do it. NOW.
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Post Post #1617 (ISO) » Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:03 pm

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I've always been told that Vi's death had no bearing on anything related to Sevis/Shrines alignment, and that I was looking too much into everything.

Well sirs and misses. There is
only
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Part one:
Werewolves kill Vi to frame Sevis
(More Probable)

I have already touched base on this possibility, but I have said if this is the case, then only two options remain on who he(Sevis/Shrine) will flip as. Mafia or Town. I have also already said that the possibility of him being Town is dismal when put up against his posts, that say nothing, if not more so, Anti-Town then they do Pro-Town. This leaves only the option of turning up Mafia. Again, what does it matter if we lynch Mafia or Werewolf this phase?? None if you have your thinking caps on straight~

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Werewolves kill Vi to WIFOM people off their scumbuddy
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As you can see, if this was the case Werewolves, sorry~ I live and thrive on that junk~ If the Werewolves killed Vi for making a huge deal out of Sevis, its possible that they did that to lay some steam off him, cause you know people here :roll: They see WIFOM, and they run away with their tails between their legs. :roll: This still does not detract from the fact that if this were the case, he will still flip scum to Town, and needs to be gonzer. Like. Right now please~

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The Finale~ Vi was just killed because he was a power player
(*Gasp* OMG!! :shock: Why didn't I think of this /sarcasm ;) :Most likely)

Welp. It certainly is the most possible. But why should that matter? He's a good player, and flipped Town, therefore his words should be looked at more closely then they (seemingly) have been. Do the dead have no voice on MafiaScum. net??? Hardly should this be the case. If he's a good player, then he probably saw something we didn't ^^ Plus he's on our team, so he will get FULL SUPPORT FROM ME~~ This still does not ditract from the fact that if this is the case, Sevis/Shrine still has a high possibility of being scum. I personally don't care Whether or not he flips Mafia or Werewolf, but I am confident enough to know that he most certainly will not flip Town. I bet my neck on it ;)

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Post Post #1618 (ISO) » Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:04 pm

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THESE WORDS ARE NOT A DEAD SHRINE.

I'm done posting until hammetime.
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Post Post #1619 (ISO) » Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:11 pm

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Unsight wrote:I also seem to recall SSBF talking about how shorter days are bad for the town (was that this game?) so it's downright scummy to see him going "Woohoo shorter deadlines!"
Shorter days then usual are bad for the town, obviously. This is why I like to have lynches when it gets close to the deadline.

However, a deadline that last for over a month is
too long
. I'll explain why.

Let's say that we waited until near the end of Day 1 deadline (Which hasn't really even arrived yet and we're on Day 2!). Then we got two Night Kills per Day. That means it would take about eight Days to finish the game. If we waited until near the end of each Day, this would round up to about a year in real time. By then, we would have received a bucket load more replacements then we already had to deal with and activity will be a lot lower then it is now. People are already starting to call this game stale.

I'm all up for three weeks deadline. With this, we would have a satisfactory amount of time that has already been dedicated to a Day and we run a lower risk of loss of interest in the game. Two weeks deadline are fine as well, as a matter of fact, when I start modding Mafia games, I'm planning on imposing this deadline onto my games. However, anything above a three week deadline (Unless it was some form of endurance challenge) puts the game at risk of tons of inactives and low activity near the end of the game,
when activity is most important
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Post Post #1620 (ISO) » Wed Jun 16, 2010 7:36 pm

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Eightteenth vote count of day 2.

Battle Mage (0):
CryMeARiver (0):
Dr. Robotnik (5):
Nachomamma8, Super Smash Bros. Fan, vezopiraka, Shrinehme, Faraday

Dry-fit (0):
Faraday (0):
foilist13 (0):
Leafsnail (0):
Lowell (0):
LynchMePls (0):
Midnight's Sorrow (4):
Unsight, SpyreX, Leafsnail, Battle Mage

Nachomamma8 (0):
nhammen (3):
SerialClergyman, Dry-fit, Dr. Robotnik

Nikanor (0):
Parama (0):
Pomegranate (0):
SerialClergyman (0):
Shrinehme (9):
Midnight's Sorrow, Parama, LynchMePls, Socrates, Pomegranate, nhammen, foilist13, Lowell, Nikanor

Socrates (0):
SpyreX (0):
Super Smash Bros. Fan (0):
Unsight (0):
vezopiraka (1):
CryMeARiver


Not Voting (0):

With 22 players alive, it takes 12 votes to lynch someone.



vezopiraka has announced V/LA from the 12th till the 17th of june.

SerialClergyman has announced LA from the 12th till the 26th of june.

I will only prod players who went 48 hours or more without posting, provided they didn't announce limited access. Everyone who posted in the last 48 hours is clearly active, and does not need a reminder from me to participate. Everyone who has announced Limited Access is aware of the game, and also doesn't need prodding.

foilist13, Nachomamma8 and Pomegranate have not posted since sunday 5 pm GMT+1, without having announced Limited Access. This means there has been 48 hours where the game was open but they didn't post. They will be prodded. It could be that they were planning to post on the day the forum was closed for moving, however. Because of this, their prods won't count against their max. 1 prod per day limit.

The deadline is the maximum time by which you have to reach a lynch. It is intended to make sure this game will eventually finish. It is taken pretty long, to guarantee that there is plenty of time to discuss whatever needs to be discussed, and to make sure that someone can keep playing even if they have to go away for a week. The day doesn't have to go to deadline, however. Nothing is stopping you from lynching someone before deadline hits. If you fail to reach a consensus on a lynch (and therefore fail to end the day), clearly there is more to be discussed and the day shouldn't end yet. I see no need to shorten the deadline.

However, if 3/4th of the active players wants shorter deadlines, I'm willing to shorten the deadlines in this game to 1.5*[number of players alive], which would place deadline for day 2 at july 2nd.
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Post Post #1621 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:47 am

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Totally behind the Mod's decision on deadline.

Now, can Parama and Unsight each explain to me why they have no votes on them atm?

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Post Post #1622 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:15 am

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Battle Mage wrote:Totally behind the Mod's decision on deadline.

Now, can Parama and Unsight each explain to me why they have no votes on them atm?

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Because I'm town and Unsight is a town brick wall.
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* Battle Mage

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Post Post #1623 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:42 am

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Parama wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:Totally behind the Mod's decision on deadline.

Now, can Parama and Unsight each explain to me why they have no votes on them atm?

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Because I'm town and Unsight is a town brick wall.
Also because here's my scumlist:
* foilist13
* nhammen
* Pomegranate
* Shrinehme
* Battle Mage

Which you happen to be on.
Haha, a threat? Was that REALLY necessary? :D

Unsight can answer for himself, and i'd imagine he'll hopefully do a little better.

You, however, can elaborate. WHY are you town? Or more importantly, why does everyone think you're town? What exactly have you done that puts you beyond suspicion? I'm not reading the entire thread till tomorrow, if i'm alive, so for today i think i'll blag.

Oh and finally, why am i on your scumlist? Is it coz i hurt ur feewings? xD lol *pets*

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Post Post #1624 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:46 am

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Parama wrote:This is a bad post then :( But I've already voted.
What was the point of this post? Spam? Attention-seeking? Buddying?
Parama wrote:
Unsight wrote:Woo, forums are back. Parama and Spyrex are looking nicely scummy for the whole "hurry up and vote" stuff.
*headdesk*

There's not a damn thing happening in this game right now. We need to lynch. Anyone who doesn't see this is a brick wall.
Fortunately, you're a brick wall anyways.
Are you voting Shrine yet? If not, do it. NOW.
*checks*
You're not. *sigh*
lol, one of the last games i played on here, i seem to recall a similar scenario involving Shrine. He's a very easy target.

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