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Post Post #325 (ISO) » Thu Jul 22, 2010 2:33 pm

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lolz. and this is why you don't tell other people your fantasies!! lol. I jest. It's a good thing my boyfriend isn't reading this. Oh, wait...

But hey, this thread had to go back to polyamory somehow, right? Why not throw in a dirty joke or two while we're at it? :P

So I don't remember if this question has been answered or not, but
Ythill
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Post Post #326 (ISO) » Thu Jul 22, 2010 2:38 pm

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@Haylen: Was it the wang-shaped tower from the cover of the Little Mermaid?

And HOLYCRAP this thread grew fast.
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Post Post #327 (ISO) » Thu Jul 22, 2010 2:41 pm

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quadz08 wrote:@Haylen: Was it the wang-shaped tower from the cover of the Little Mermaid?
No, it's what I'd imagine Ythill's wang to look like, tbh. :P
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Post Post #328 (ISO) » Thu Jul 22, 2010 2:51 pm

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Ythill wrote:The act of speaking aloud to an "entity" that you treat as omiscient is a great exercise for strengthening the honesty and self-awareness of one's internal dialogue.
You mean like posting on the internet? :-P
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Post Post #329 (ISO) » Thu Jul 22, 2010 2:53 pm

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Claus wrote:
Ythill wrote:The act of speaking aloud to an "entity" that you treat as omiscient is a great exercise for strengthening the honesty and self-awareness of one's internal dialogue.
You mean like posting on the internet? :-P
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Post Post #330 (ISO) » Thu Jul 22, 2010 2:54 pm

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Huh. Ythill, I sense a blind date coming on. ;)
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Post Post #331 (ISO) » Thu Jul 22, 2010 2:58 pm

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Does it really count as a blind date?
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Post Post #332 (ISO) » Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:56 pm

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@SFG:
Until you learn to stop letting everyone use you and what it means to be self sufficient there's not much you, medication or any one else can do to get out of the slump. Also any therapists who continually keeps diagnosing you with new disorders is just milking you for all your worth.
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No, it's what I'd imagine Ythill's wang to look like, tbh. :P
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Post Post #333 (ISO) » Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:57 pm

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/finally de-lurks
SFG wrote:I still haven't quite figured out what to do when my friends tell me that the only way I can make them feel better is to cyber them, when I already have a boyfriend who would be upset about it. On the one hand, I'd be denying my friend comfort in a time of need; on the other, I'd be unfaithful to my boyfriend.
...Wtf?

SFG, I cannot stress this enough, if someone wants
any
kind of sexual act from you, including cybering, and you tell them "no", and they keep pushing you to anyway,
that is abusive behaviour and you need to cut that person out of your life right fucking now
. No ifs, ands, or buts. These are the same kinds of asshats who think
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rape isn't rape if they coerced/bullied/pressured/threatened you until they got a "yes" out of you.


I have been there, done that way too many times and... suffice to say, if you have "friendships" like that, no wonder you're in the mental/emotional state you're in. I sincerely hope that's the most anyone is pushing you to do against your better judgement. :?

No one, and I repeat,
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Post Post #334 (ISO) » Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:58 pm

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^ what she said, basically.
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Post Post #335 (ISO) » Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:25 pm

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Trust me, that is not the case with this therapist; my friends agree about 75% with each diagnosis and those have been around for awhile. And I've only been raped once so...
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Post Post #336 (ISO) » Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:31 pm

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TheButtonmen wrote:The two cents I'd throw in are you really really sound like you could use some discipline, I've always found that self-mastery is easier, more pleasant (self-understanding can be unpleasant at times) and quicker to achive then self-understanding. Take up long distance running, join a cadets program, train for a marathon or what have you; pick something that will bring you to the point where your wondering why your doing this, where your tired, sore and just wanting to say fuck it (Don't bother learning an instrument, that's the wrong kind of discipline). Once you chosen something just keep with it, there's a point (it will take a while to reach) where your bone tired, running on autopilot where enough of your brain shuts off that you reach that near medatative state others are mentioning without having to go through the whole hippy wishy washy finding yourself thing.
Quoted for Truth. I've been just skimming the part of the thread this is related to but I can attest to what Buttons is saying here.

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I got through it and even though boot camp got progressively harder physically after that, the simple of act of deciding to just push on, instead of just sitting down and crying (which I seriously considered) tapped a mental and emotional reserve I never would have thought I possessed.

And I've seen it happen in other people as well during my time in the Corps and after in civilian life. After boot camp I even had one of my drill instructors tell the folks who came down to see me graduate that he could tell almost to the second when he saw that worrying about me graduating boot camp as a training failure (an ongoing problem in the Corps then and was still one when I was retired) ceased to be a concern to him and the other drill instructors.

So Buttons has a good idea there.

[Quick edit]The Drill instructor never used the word "Training Failure" in front of my family. But I knew what he was getting when he told them "I knew he was going to make it" and then talked about that run.
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Post Post #337 (ISO) » Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:48 pm

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And I've only been raped once so...
"Only"? :?

My point was, if someone is using/abusing you, you should not assume they are okay because they are your "friend" and would not do anything "really bad", like overtly raping you. My point is, you should stop their use/abuse of you before it gets to that point, because it doesn't
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Post Post #338 (ISO) » Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:51 pm

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For fuck's sake.
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Post Post #339 (ISO) » Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:52 pm

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WORD.
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Post Post #341 (ISO) » Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:24 pm

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Post Post #342 (ISO) » Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:30 pm

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I'm fine with digression...
People wrote:sex... little mermaid...
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Singer wrote:...how did you and your wife/previous relationships stumble upon this lifestyle anyway?
I'll let Xine speak for herself. My story is complicated but here's a summary: my first serious gf was still in love with her ex and went back and forth between us every couple of weeks, which sucked. Eventually I told her that she could date both of us but if she left me again, we weren't getting back together. After saying that, I was poly for a few years until I had a bad experience that amplified my jealousy. I was mono for many years after but never really happy with it. Had an especially bad experience with monogomy in my most recent failed relationship (gf secretly sleeping with lots of people while I was saying no to extreme temptation). When my current relationship started, Xine was of the belief that one steady person wasn't enough to fulfill her and my stance was that I wasn't going to say no to extreme temptation, lest I harbor needless resentment. We were monogomous for a couple years while conceiving our son, and it kinda became a habit. Then I met the afforementioned extreme temptation and thus began the first rocky steps of learning polyamory.
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You mean like posting on the internet? :-P
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Post Post #343 (ISO) » Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:55 pm

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Post Post #344 (ISO) » Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:00 pm

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I don't think I've ever known this thing you call "extreme temptation." I'm rather disappointed by this fact haha.

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Post Post #346 (ISO) » Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:13 pm

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Xine...how had you developed the belief that one, steady person isn't enough to fulfill you?

Quadz...Disappointed that you haven't experienced extreme temptation? Don't worry, your time will come. :P
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Post Post #347 (ISO) » Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:28 pm

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esuriospiritus wrote:
...Wtf?

SFG, I cannot stress this enough, if someone wants
any
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that is abusive behaviour and you need to cut that person out of your life right fucking now
. No ifs, ands, or buts. These are the same kinds of asshats who think
Spoiler: trigger warning for sexual assault survivors
rape isn't rape if they coerced/bullied/pressured/threatened you until they got a "yes" out of you.
.
I think that is a slippery slope. That any form of persuasion is abusive coercion. Anyway, those people still annoy me less than people who think that
Spoiler: oh so offensive for sexual assault victims. Seriously. Don't.
just because he didn't make you feel like a princess, and gold and diamonds didn't fly out of your pussy doesn't mean you can just say you were raped. Consent is given prior, not revised after the fact. I also have insane views regarding all this shit about how if a drunk guy and a drunk girl have sex she's raped and he's a predator, what the fuck is that about? I just hate the anti-male legal system that I've seen.
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Post Post #348 (ISO) » Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:40 pm

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Oman wrote:I think that is a slippery slope. That any form of persuasion is abusive coercion. Anyway, those people still annoy me less than people who think that
Spoiler: oh so offensive for sexual assault victims. Seriously. Don't.
just because he didn't make you feel like a princess, and gold and diamonds didn't fly out of your pussy doesn't mean you can just say you were raped. Consent is given prior, not revised after the fact. I also have insane views regarding all this shit about how if a drunk guy and a drunk girl have sex she's raped and he's a predator, what the fuck is that about? I just hate the anti-male legal system that I've seen.
I agree. And girls are the worst. I haven't exactly figured out what my situation is yet, but my girlfriends like to try to convince me I was raped, when, I honestly don't know...
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I kept telling this guy I was dating that I didn't want to have sex one night, and he pressured me to the brink of my boundaries. Eventually I just stopped anything physical with him. He then offered to give me a massage, and I was more than inclined with the day I had been having. He used this opportunity to make another move, convincing me that it would be better if I were striped naked, and eventually trying to have anal with me. When I said no, he slowly stopped, and we went to sleep...only to have me wake up with him on top of me again, as he's prodding his way into me. At that moment, all I could do was cry. But he technically didn't
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me into doing anything, so I never considered it rape...tis a fine line, don't you think?
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Post Post #349 (ISO) » Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:42 pm

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@Oman: It doesn't become abusive until you tell them "NO" and they keep pressuring you anyway. It signals a complete disrespect for someone's boundaries. Of
course
not all persuasion is WTFSRSBAD, but the way SFG worded it it sounded like something that has happened more than once. And who said anything about revising consent after the fact? (Or drunk guy/drunk girl sex being ZOMG RAPE?) If it's not an enthusiastic yes, it's a "no". In the case of both people being drunk, as long as one person isn't taking advantage of the other's drunkenness, I really don't see a problem with it.

But go ahead and keep making assumptions that because I hold a strong opinion about consent, that I'm one of "those" people where EVERYTHING IS RAPE IF I SAY IT IS EVEN IF I ORIGINALLY WANTED IT AND THEN LATER DECIDED IT WAS BAD SEX GRAWR. Your prejudices towards anti-rape advocates are showing and I didn't come into this thread to 101 people.

And tone down the fucking condescension. I am not here to start a flame war with you.

Oh, and btw, not all rapes are guy-on-girl. :roll:
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