NY 114: Mafia vs. Werewolves (Game Over)

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What up game I'll be catching up tomorrow since it done be the sleepy times BUT real quicklike synopsis?

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Up to page 13 and me and my compadres are outed AND slappywag masons instead of fat ones?

Awesome.

While I'm still reading why isn't Goat dead? (I may fall asleep here soon but)

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God I'm still catching up and this is the worst game you guys seriously.

At least there's a nice divide between those who will soon be dead and those who are awesome.

IT WOULD BE AWESOMER IF THE LIST SIZES WERENT SO UNBALANCED IN THE BAD WAY THOUGH GOD

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Hot damn I think all the monks and masons may, in fact, be town because non-symmetry hurts the head in that and Faraday came in being awesome and that makes me happy.

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HOT DAMN ALL CAUGHT UP

So, first things first.

I want this group of people that in some circles we would call the NEW BASTION OF DEATH:

Parama
Nacho
Serial
SSBF
Unsight
Socrates
LynchMePls

to pick A single target from this list which shall be called THE LIST OF THE DEAD WALKING:

Midnight's Sorrow
Shrinehime
Timeeater
Nhammen

And make them dead. Right now.

My vote under the raw needing to be the dead clause is MS. WHY WHY WHY did that wagon go away? Seriously now.

Nhammen wouldn't bother me as much if he had posted earlier in the day today than ahead of the game. However, want to know a secret? Gut says we're gonna see a town flip here but now is the time to deal with it because THIS ARGUMENT EVERY DAY IS NOT AWESOME.

Timeeater and Sevis mk2 I -really- better not even need to go into detail with.

OHH SNAP SPYREX YOU SAID YOU THINK MASONS ARE TOWN BUT THEY ARENT ON THE LIST

Nope. Not yet. Faraday WAS awesome but I need more Faraday to be sure. Vezo is town but mos def not awesome so.

I've got some secret more awesomes that need to play more and then can join the murder-brigade. They dont get to know who they are though.

And the fifth that isn't on the list for the mo because of replacement help is Nik. I liked Nik but I absolutely hate The Goat and if not for these other issues.

Foil isn't a bad lynch but not my favorite. The rest of the game I'd happily hang if it meant the above group was all that was left.

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Hahah I guess I forgot something:

Unvote, Vote: Midnights Sorrow

And the love is mutual here be one of my notes from the game:

LynchMePls - holy shit town I'm sad I'm not in his cool club

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I'll answer your question with a question:

In over 130 posts, can you point to a solid, forward-moving post that is based off his own viewpoint on anything?

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I don't think MS would be capable of putting out such of post. But ISO 21 looks like at least an attempt, and as far as displaying independent thought, I would point to ISO 13, 30, (Iso 33 stands out to me for reasons I can't quite articulate. Its arguing an alignment, not a utility lynch, pro-town points right there), and the sheer amount of conviction that MS is displaying about his Sevis vote even after so many players have called him out on it.

Iso 59 causes some pause in me. That chronopie vote came out of nowhere and it was apparently an L-1 vote... Confused

(You didn't expect me to actually look at his Iso now did you?)

Actually I totally did.

And while YOU are awesome I've got to disagree with you some:

Iso 21 is FAR FAR more concerned with not locking down "town reads" (Sera, Parama). And, I post this counterquestion again because I've had one of those days and cant remember: Was iso 21 before or after the growing anti-parama wave started?

Iso 13 is white noise, mostly. Especially since 21 again espouses the idea dan can be scum.

Iso 30 is one of those either-way posts, especially without nh's lynch. That wagon isn't nor was baseless regardless of correctness.

But, really, the main point stands: its white noise. Refined active lurking. That vote coming out D2 start gives me that bad itch all over.

@Spyrex: I notice I haven't made either of your lists. Is that because you think I've behaved scummy this time, or because you still have nightmares from my abysmal performance the last time we played together?

Why is Dr Robotnik on your death list? He's been at least as useless as MS.

Because you still give me a LOT of pause. D1? Town. D2? Eehhhhh. When I know where you go you'll go there.

Robotnik is another one of those enigmas - however, with the throwaway MS vote I'm thinkin its an easy-target push. So hopefully he'll play the game and some flips will make some things clearer.

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I don't think MS would be bussing. Thus, a scum flip here definitely lessens the chance of Robotnik being scum and just, instead, a VI.

I'm not sure where you're getting I'm defending robotnik. I want my list killed but him being added to the murderlist sure thing

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I don't think that you are defending robotnik, I think you are excluding him from this death list even though he has displayed the same scum tells as some of the people on it, most notably your primary lynch target. I don't understand why. Are you trying to give him a second chance?

A lot of it is the MS vote. A whole lot.

Rggh, I'm digging your style, Spy, but I wish you'd chosen someone other than MS. I know you won't take meta arguments, but when I was literally in a game that was running AS THIS GAME was running and was scum, and got MS lynched with essentially exactly the same sort of reasons, I'm really not hungry to jump on the wagon.

Also, could you detail a littlem ore clearly your view of the claims? I know you've made a few predictions but there's a lot of bustle in your (admittedly awesome) posts and I just want to nail down where you are on them.

I dig that and if this is just lol, play welp. As it sits though I can't buy it. The volume of nothing is amazing.

The claims?

Nhammen is probably a roleblocker - its such a weird role to LIE about. Alignment? Yep, even though he's on my death list I still say town by a margin.

The Masons? Well, aside from the crazy lord who is just crazy Faraday seems pretty town sooo I think it might have been smoke-and-mirrors moddery where by not SLAM DUNK confirming them they eat each other alive (see crazy lord).
Further I have an issue with symmetry and Lynch is my #1 town read BEFORE the claim so the mystical last member probably town.

Is there others I've missed?

Ehhhhhhhhh....

No I can't do it. My gut just keeps insisting that he is town.

His vote on Sevis keeps sending me for loops. I need to evaluate what night talk the night before would lead up to that post, what that would say about any scum team that he is a part of and what his scum buddies would have done when he made that post. (I want to say a MS with a team would have been coached into not making a vote that is guaranteed to draw the ire of others.)

SHHH You're spoling a SECRET REVELATION if I'm right about him.

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Additionally I can swing without too much sad to any of that killing list AND MAYBE EVEN ROBOTNIK MAYBE.

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Shrine replaced Sevis? I'm down.

The murder squad can weigh in. My absolute belly-gut scum read that I can't quantify is still Goat because my lord but I digress.

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Nik - who I liked one post of a decent chunk butttt

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Psssst Dry-fit you're real close to that being dead list pick it up tia.

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Six is too many at this juncture. Doing them all doesn't matter.

No need to unofficially vote. Just do the real thing. Pick target. Kill target.

You'll get more when I'm back at my actual machines.

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As an addendum SSBF is ridiculously town HOWEVER that plan is silly and far, far too much time.

Let the votes and words do that work. If you want to keep track, ISO and pull the data and if it doesn't match what comes out later BOOM SCUMSHOT.

But, no. No way am I gonna be down with compilation as a function of time.

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Anyone on my list as long as my brothers in blood can pick a target is fine.

Needless to say score tech vig points taking care of bidness on that list too.

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I'll hammer this but under extreme distaste. Even shrine is better than this and thats with MS being such a proponent.

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Good lord and dry-fit comes out a swingin' with a big wiffer.

Looks like he's gonna fall on that sad side of things.

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I'm holding for hammer but I approve of this.

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.......

GOD

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Yo nacho:

I said I'm saving myself for a hammer. Which I will drop. With impunity.

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What does this VC look like now? Is it clobberin' time?

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A fair assessment.

Lets get this done. I'm waiting with a delicious hammer.

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It damn well better be

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Get. this. done.

Seriously there is no excuse a lynch needs to happen.

Posts after this that aren't votes are bad posts.

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THESE WORDS ARE NOT A DEAD SHRINE.

I'm done posting until hammetime.

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HOT DAMN FREEDOM

Unvote, Vote: Shrine

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This was an interesting game and a solid setup and I commend heartily a few of the town players (Lynchmepls, SSBF REALLY jumpt to mind) for their play.

Nik and Parama did a solid job feeding the maw with the flake brigade and that hurt.

Vezo, ohh vezo, you drove me nuts and I think more activity and some analysis of the monks and masons could have led to a 5 person town death brigade that would have been hard to overcome.

15 replacements is a battle that his hard to win. It makes us sad.