Mafia 121 -- Picking Simplicity Game Over

[SnakePlissken]

It depends on the frequency of posting throughout the game by everyone. Don't forget there will be those who will coast in the background to avoid getting picked out. But in my experience there is always at least one who really goes for it. Im not suggesting that you all follow my read, it's how I see the game. My judgement in part is made from that or at least for somewhere to start looking for the scum.

[Empking]

Eld: Yes he's scummy.

Yos: Give me a quote where LMP says that he doesn't like Jack's claim and

just

thinks its an unlikerly scum gambit. (other than when he quoted you and said "WIN")

[UncertainKitten]

So, how do you tell scummy overposting from townie overposting, Snake?

[Nobody Special]

Votecount 1.05


SnakePlissken - 8 - UncertainKitten, Glork, Lowell, Antihero, eldarad, Xine, mothrax, AGar
Empking - 5 - Nikanor, Yosarian2, VasudeVa, LynchMePls, SnakePlissken
LynchMePls - 2 - Empking, Azazel
Lowell - 1 - Haylen
Agar - 1 - Jack


Not Voting: CJMiller, jmj3000, Sudo_Nym

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

Deadline: November 17

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[Yosarian2]

Yos: Give me a quote where LMP says that he doesn't like Jack's claim and

just

thinks its an unlikerly scum gambit. (other than when he quoted you and said "WIN")

I'm confused here by your thought process, empking; what did you think LMP meant by that line, if not "I think Jack is probably town"? It seemed obvious in context, especially after his next post.

[AGar]

When you are scum in general you do try harder than a normal town to appear town, would you agree? Well on that basis and becuase of that you tend to fly in with a lot of questions and pick up on as much as can, even the slightest thing. Well at least in my limited experience thats what I have seen happening. Although on here the official version as in the forum as a whole that is, there's a lot more bussing goin on, again building peoples vote counts.

Not really. No.

Oh and Agar why?

Xine is scummy too, and a hypocrite. (what leads you to this in particular?)
I'm liking Jack's recent play. (Really? Jack's so scattershot with his comments Im interested to see why.)
UK too. (Or is it the fact that they both agree with and are voting the same way as you currnetly?)

You're scummy for trying to justify posting a lot is a scumtell.

Xine is scummy for her "me too!" kind of remarks, and hypocritical for telling Sudo to start playing when I feel her contributions have been coat-tailing at best.
Jack's play has been pro-town. Quirky, and not exactly standard, but pro-town. See the call-out of me for evidence.
UK is playing smart, calling for less wall spam, and saw the meta light.

[Jack]

I'm not sold on snake as scum

He did softclaim/claim early as scum in another game.

[LimMePls]

Let's play your game then. At what threshold does an amount of posts switch from being very townie to being scummy?

This is an excellent question that points out the ridiculousness of Snake's "posting alot is scummy" theory.

[Glork]

Yos, are you scum?

[Glork]

I'm not sold on snake as scum

He did softclaim/claim early as scum in another game.

Was the other game with normal roles and an open setup? I think that's a big determining factor in early-breadcrumbing behavior.

[Jack]

Yos, are you scum?

Sometimes I think so.

I'm not sold on snake as scum

He did softclaim/claim early as scum in another game.

Was the other game with normal roles and an open setup? I think that's a big determining factor in early-breadcrumbing behavior.

No. Well, fairly normal roles. But thinking about it scum hinting at their watcher ability is a bit of a different motive than we have here.

[CJMiller]

/conform

I'm not getting anything from my read other than

Vote:SnakePlissken

[jmj3000]

/conform

I'm not getting anything from my read other than

Vote:SnakePlissken

^^^ How the heck did you manage to avoid getting replaced?

On another note, anyone have anything they want me to comment on? I need some focus for my re-read or else I will be swimming in a sea of information with no direction.

[CJMiller]

A wizard did it.

[Nikanor]

The only reason for why I'm not voting Glork is meta.

Empking is scummy because I said so. And, to a lesser extent, because Yos said so.

I can see UK as scum too, although I'm not saying why lest my awesome meta tells be exposed.

The Snakewagon is dumb and stupid and dumb. Snake, how many games have you played?

[SnakePlissken]

On here Nik? This is my 3rd but I am also in another via replacement.

[Glork]

Unvote
Vote: CJMiller

[Glork]

Completely and utterly unwilling to believe that the *ONLY* read Miller has of a 12-page D1 happens to be that the bandwagoned guy is scum.

[Lowell]

I echo 291.

unvote, vote glork

. DERAILMENT WAGON.

[Lowell]

heh, tricked you!

EBWOP:

unvote, vote MILLER

[Haylen]

I'm not voting for Glork due to meta aswell.

I am not buying that that's a random vote on CJ's part especially since it's on a major wagon in the game and he didn't give any reasoning what so ever for votng for him.

Unvote Vote CJMiller

[Glork]

It's not random, it's just that CJ said after reading through the game, the only read he had was scum on Snake....

...which is an INCREDIBLY convenient read.

Normally I don't like derailing wagons after 10+ pages of D1, but this is entirely appropriate. Snake isn't (group)scum, and CJ most certainly is some form of scum.

[Yosarian2]

/conform

I'm not getting anything from my read other than

Vote:SnakePlissken

Why's that, yugiboy?

(Also, is anyone else amused that through a typo, he said "conform" instead of "confirm" and then joined the biggest wagon for no reason?)

[Haylen]

Yes. Especially since he already confirmed in thread which leads me to believe that he is KNOWINGLY conforming to the rest of the group.

And Yugiboy pissed me off in irc once cause he told me everyone hated me and wanted me to GTFO. But he wont remember that cause I was using my usual name. But that's entirely irrelevant and I really need to stop posting exactly what I'm thinking.

[Jack]

Oh cj, that was not at all unexpected.