Mini 1088: Cookie Thief Mafia (Game Over)

[andrew94]

i thought that investigative iimmune people are called odd olivia or could be

[lewarcher82]

@Shotstik: since I am still uncertain about what to do with Ivy and her presumed (presumed by me, actually) slip, please comment on the color-stuff as well.

[RobCapone]

i thought that investigative iimmune people are called odd olivia or could be

didn;t you say earlier if investigated the person would get back nothing? if so than this makes no sense

[Darox]

So does anyone actually believe Andrew's incredibly flimsy role claim?

[RobCapone]

I dont

[Zed]

Why are you voting PoisonIvy and not andrew94 (or someone else)? What's your reason? And do you believe andrew94's claim?

Who are your top 2 scum suspects at this moment?

I voted PoisonIvy because I had time to look at her posts myself since the whole color thing came out. I don't believe andrew's claim. It isn't very clear what his role does, and I'm pretty sure a mod wouldn't give out a role and have what it does be unclear.

My top two scum suspects are PoisonIvy and andrew, because I think his claim is crap.

this was a prod dodge, i got an email about this game, sorry i will be totally cought up and thoughful on monday or tuesday, right now i would just like to say that you guys need to look more into Zed.

Why do they need to look at me more? Don't say something and not explain it, then go away. You've played with me before, you should know that is something I don't put up with.

[drmyshottyizsik]

I know Zed, I was just saying we need to look into you more, atm you are my largest town read, I just want other people oppinions on this.

[drmyshottyizsik]

ok first off Ivy's "slip" was not a slip at all, at least i dont think. If anything Lew blew it way way way out of proportion, and tried to flip it on ivy for a quick lynch. I feel that he got a scum PM that had the real roles used(as most scum do in mini's) and simply used that information.

And about the Andrew claim... ya why is he not lynched yet?
because if he really is what he says he is, then he will come back to life anyways. Also there is no way the mod is dumb enough to put that role in this game. Because after we lynch him the first time and find out that he's town we wont lynch him again, so then the mafia would have to NK him 2 nights in a row, or else they would auto loose in a 5 man lylo. So no andrew you are not that role

vote andrew

Unvote first! -mod

[lewarcher82]

more details please. What was wrong in my case?

and are you seriously saying I am a scum player who has the power of knowing the colors of roles??? LoL
this is the problem with using brains... the pink and blue stuff is simply the result of a pretty elementary deduction, too bad if you dun see it.

[drmyshottyizsik]

lew in mini's the mod almost always sends the scum a pm with the name of the VT role, and sometimes the other. Also if you just deduced the colour thing, and you dont know 100% then why are you so eager to lynch someone because of it?

[Kublai Khan]

Okay. drmyshottyizsik is scum. This game is getting too easy.

[Elleran]

this was a prod dodge, i got an email about this game, sorry i will be totally cought up and thoughful on monday or tuesday, right now i would just like to say that you guys need to look more into Zed.

Zed needs to post little more for a full analysis, imo.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Okay. drmyshottyizsik is scum. This game is getting too easy.

ya I've made three posts!! I'm obv scum! GO YOU!! No but REally KK, why am I scum exactly? Because I have reads on people you want to deffend? I just want to point out that a KK, Andrew, Lew scum team would make perfect sence

[andrew94]

ok first off Ivy's "slip" was not a slip at all, at least i dont think. If anything Lew blew it way way way out of proportion, and tried to flip it on ivy for a quick lynch. I feel that he got a scum PM that had the real roles used(as most scum do in mini's) and simply used that information.

And about the Andrew claim... ya why is he not lynched yet?
because if he really is what he says he is, then he will come back to life anyways. Also there is no way the mod is dumb enough to put that role in this game. Because after we lynch him the first time and find out that he's town we wont lynch him again, so then the mafia would have to NK him 2 nights in a row, or else they would auto loose in a 5 man lylo. So no andrew you are not that role

vote andrew

how would they auto loose in 5 man lylo if im alive then?

[andrew94]

i thought that investigative iimmune people are called odd olivia or could be

didn;t you say earlier if investigated the person would get back nothing? if so than this makes no sense

their name...
i thought at that point in time, their names might be odd olivia

[drmyshottyizsik]

sorry your right town would still most likely loose, but it may end with 2 scum against andrew with 3 lives, and idk how the mod would handle that. And andrew if you know you aren't lieing why are you so against getting lynched if you have 3 lives

[Llamarble]

We have 2 days left.
Because we'll be in a very strong position if she flips scum and get more info from her than anybody else flipping town:

UNVOTE; VOTE POISONIVY

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 1.16

drmyshottyizsik (1): andrew94
PoisonIvy (5): Furcolow, Elleran, lewarcher82, Zed, Llamarble
Furcolow (1): PoisonIvy,
gzapsa (1): drmyshottyizsik
andrew94 (3): RobCapone, Darox, Kublai Khan

Not voting: gzapsa

With 12 people alive, town needs 7 votes to lynch someone.

Sorry, I just had a hectic plane ride... but Deadline is on 12/13 (next Monday!) noon (pacific time).

[Kublai Khan]

Okay. drmyshottyizsik is scum. This game is getting too easy.

ya I've made three posts!! I'm obv scum! GO YOU!! No but REally KK, why am I scum exactly? Because I have reads on people you want to deffend? I just want to point out that a KK, Andrew, Lew scum team would make perfect sence

You are scum because this:

lew in mini's the mod almost always sends the scum a pm with the name of the VT role, and sometimes the other. Also if you just deduced the colour thing, and you dont know 100% then why are you so eager to lynch someone because of it?

Makes absolutely no sense. If the scum got a example vanilla townie PM, then PoisonIvy would have known that "Cookie Scout" is in blue. She didn't know that, but the other neighbors confirmed that their PMs had blue.

The fact that you're trying to make lewarcher82 second guess himself is a sign that you are scum trying to save a partner from a bad spot. lewarcher82, RobCapone, and Furcolow are near-confirmed town at this point. Darox, Elleran, and Llamarble are reading as borderline pro-town. andrew94 seems scummy, but if his role claim is accurate, then he's likely town. That leaves you, gzapsa and Zed. And I'm leaning towards Zed being the third scum only because Stigmata's backing out was a relatively townie thing to do from my perspective.

(gotta love day 1 predictions)

[lewarcher82]

lew in mini's the mod almost always sends the scum a pm with the name of the VT role, and sometimes the other. Also if you just deduced the colour thing, and you dont know 100% then why are you so eager to lynch someone because of it?

How about you show me where I was eager?

[drmyshottyizsik]

Since I am receiving no answers at all, I will proceed with what I already have, which, actually, is more than enough.
I said I am have missed something. There you go:

I unvoted Poison. This was a bad move. I had missed a blatant slip. I will now explain.

When furco stated to be "blue", I thought that he was using a common offsite-terminology, by whicih a townie is a "blue nilla" (used for instance on epicmafia).

So there was nothing odd in the fact that Poison was unable to understand the statement "I'm blue" by furco.

I was wrong.

I re-read my PM, and I re-read this thread, and I realised that we missed a crucial point.

Town players' PMs contain two words in blue.

Cookie Scout

. I know this because I am a town-aligned player.

Furco knows that too. And the only way he can know it is that he got these two blue words in his message as well.

However, furco is necessarily a neighbour, and neighbours are also pink. The consequence is that they receivd a message stating they are

neighbours

AND

cookie scouts

.

This is 100% demonstrated: if the neighbours only had pink in their role-description, then furco could not have possibly mentioned being blue.

Unfortunately, Poison's reiterated reaction to the being-blue-statement by furco clearly shows that she had no idea there was any blue in the town-players PMs.

Check out her post #134. Check out her post #197. Check ouot her post #228. And again #237. And again #262.

Therefore, she is either scum or a third party.

vote: PoisonIvy

This is a scumslip, Poison. Talk yourself out of this if you can.

[lewarcher82]

Which is my case on poison. So what? Pllease, go on, explain. Is making a case scummy? Did I ask everyone to lynch her right away?

[andrew94]

sorry your right town would still most likely loose, but it may end with 2 scum against andrew with 3 lives, and idk how the mod would handle that. And andrew if you know you aren't lieing why are you so against getting lynched if you have 3 lives

-scum lynch me
-scum kill me
-scum lynch me again

gg?

[RobCapone]

unless you are scum and that never happens

[RobCapone]

ivy sure has gone silent, no posts since wednesday