Mini 1088: Cookie Thief Mafia (Game Over)

[Darox]

To me I'm fine with shotty but it doesn't seem like it's going to happen and furc is acting like he is confirmed town, which he isn't

As long as idiots vote for elleran we aren't going to get a lynch with anyone

It's not going to happen if you and the Flighty Broad brigade keep flitting from vote to vote so that we never get a majority.

[RobCapone]

I'm done changing, we can deal with furc later

[FakeGod]

Vote Count 2.16

"New Year's Eve's Eve." -mod

drmyshottyizsik (3): Darox, Furcolow, RobCapone
Elleran (3): Llamarble, don_johnson, andrew94
RobCapone (1): Elleran
Furcolow (1): drmyshottyizsik

Not Voting: Zed, lewarcher82

With 10 players, it takes 6 votes to lynch someone.

The new deadline is Jan. 7th, 2011!

[lewarcher82]

mmh... if we had more time I would ask Rob to explain his idea that don is prolly scum. But we do not.

Darox, ok, but we need to pick one of the following options:

1) we all vote NL after shotty flips town.
2) we all agree on someone to vote after Shotty flips town.

Assuming we have 3 scums - which is normal in a 12 players game:
1) option 1 leads to mylo tomorrow - potential lylo if there is a third party who can joint with scum;
2) ml on option 2 leads to lylo tomorrow - potential game over if there is a third party who can joint with scum.

[Darox]

Yes, those are the two possible options. Way to state the obvious, champ.

We don't need to decide this before we lynch Shotty.

What's the point of this again?

[Elleran]

@Llamarble: If you don't believe my breadcrumbings, then I can't convince you otherwise. If you do not think I will be NK'ed tonight, then I still can't do anything to convince you otherwise. Just because of the nature of my abilities, they can always be 'duplicated' by scums acting together.

And whatever, I will reveal my third ability (which really isn't much). I have the power to watch a cabin for a night. I can only tell if someone MOVES OUT of the cabin. If a role is done WITHIN the cabin or someone ENTERS the cabin, I cannot tell. I can only tell if the inhabitant of the cabin moves out to do whatever he had to move out for.

I don't think this ability can be confirmed and it will be likely anti-town for it to be confirmed. Unless I happen to hit the scum who sent out the NK PM, I won't get anything unless I hit a town PR, which will be detrimental to town to reveal.

If you won't believe my claim, then so be it. But by pursuing me, I'm seeing you more and more as a determined scum who's adamant about lynching a town PR for the day. If you really are a scum, why not NK me?

[Elleran]

Oh... I just realized something.

Perhaps some of the people who are accepting my claim so easily are scum. Because they know that I can be easily NK'ed and dealt with during the night, they can say 'I believe him' and pursue an easier target for the day. >__>

Any thoughts on this theory?

[Elleran]

For those who are confused:

Yes, I alignment copped Darox and got a TOWN result. I used this ability first because I believe it to be my most powerful. In case I was killed off quickly, I wanted to utilize this ability so that I had something to contribute before I am eliminated.

I have a one-shot name cop ability left. This allows me to find out the name of a player, exactly like the GC power.

I have a one-shot variant of a watcher ability.

[Darox]

Oh... I just realized something.

Perhaps some of the people who are accepting my claim so easily are scum. Because they know that I can be easily NK'ed and dealt with during the night, they can say 'I believe him' and pursue an easier target for the day. >__>

Any thoughts on this theory?

I think debating this for either side is a massive waste of time.

[lewarcher82]

Yes, those are the two possible options. Way to state the obvious, champ.

We don't need to decide this before we lynch Shotty.

What's the point of this again?

The point is we have only 7 days before deadline, and tomorrow is new year's eve, so if it takes a couple of days to decide that we DO lynch shotty, then it is realistic to assume that shotty will suicide (if he really can) some 5 days before deadline. We cannot think we will have enough time for a proper scumhunt.

I apologise for stating the obvious. If you want to discuss the Goedel's Theoremes or something more interesting we can do it in the general discussion. Here and now my concern is to make sure everyone realises what is happening.

[RobCapone]

It comes down to

1. Do you beleive the breadcrumbs or not
2. Do you think mod would put this role into the game

Tbh I'd be more worried about the people voting you, even if you are lying you don't lynch a claimed PR when you have other suspects

[Elleran]

Oh... I just realized something.

Perhaps some of the people who are accepting my claim so easily are scum. Because they know that I can be easily NK'ed and dealt with during the night, they can say 'I believe him' and pursue an easier target for the day. >__>

Any thoughts on this theory?

I think debating this for either side is a massive waste of time.

Yeah I agree. It's little too late to discuss this.

[RobCapone]

I say we call shotty's bluff and go from there, worst that can happen is a NL

[lewarcher82]

@Elleran: Soooo, you are a merely investigative JOAT? Very weird role. I confess I was hoping you had at least a one-shot at vig... too bad.

It is hard for me to imagine the flavour used to describe your third power. How is that possible? You are sitting in front of a cabin's door but you will only see if the player who owns the cabin EXITS, while you cannot see if someone else enters? Also, I wonder where is a mafia meeting or a GC meeting supposed to take place... are scum-scouts and GCs telepaths? Or does a participant to a meeting leave his cabin?

Whatev, this is pointless right now. I just wanted to point out the weirdness of your third power.

@shotty: we are wasting a lot of time and it is highly likely that you will be lynched. Would you consider suiciding right now so that we don't waste any more time?

[RobCapone]

Lewarcher, if he is not bluffing and he suicides, what next?

[Elleran]

@Elleran: Soooo, you are a merely investigative JOAT? Very weird role. I confess I was hoping you had at least a one-shot at vig... too bad.

It is hard for me to imagine the flavour used to describe your third power. How is that possible? You are sitting in front of a cabin's door but you will only see if the player who owns the cabin EXITS, while you cannot see if someone else enters? Also, I wonder where is a mafia meeting or a GC meeting supposed to take place... are scum-scouts and GCs telepaths? Or does a participant to a meeting leave his cabin?

Whatev, this is pointless right now. I just wanted to point out the weirdness of your third power.

lol I understand. xD Allow me to clarify the flavor portion:

I do my alignment investigation using Fingerprint Scanning Kit.

I do my name investigation using a laptop that runs out of battery after one use.

I do my watcher ability using a traveling cloak to watch someone, but the cloak gets ruined after one use.

Ignore the flavor if you don't like them. The power is what that matters. (Also, I know that I said 'I'll eat my laptop' before. I ddn't say 'fingerprint scanning device' on purpose because that'd be more than breadcrumbing. By saying 'laptop' it'd make sense because I'm using a computer to play MafiaScum which I would eat.)

To your second sort-of question, the cookies are in a separate cabin called the 'Basket tree'. Mafia members go and steal one each night. My ability allows me to watch a cabin in case the inhabitant leaves for any reason (such as utilizing a role that involves leaving the cabin. Like leaving to steal a cookie.). My role has limits, for example, my name-cop ability takes place within my cabin so if someone else was watching my cabin with the same limitations, the person would observe that I did not leave my cabin that night despite me having utilized an ability.

[lewarcher82]

Lewarcher, if he is not bluffing and he suicides, what next?

I already discussed the options, didn't I? You want to know which one I would pick?

Oh, and before I forget

vote: Shotty

[RobCapone]

You had me up until the cloak, is this cookies or Harry potter. Lol

Anyways that's either the most detailed lie I have ever heard OR your telling the truth. I'm leaning toward the truth still but that cloak is tripping me up, seems out of place. I'd beleive hood or vest more


P. Edit - you probably did, I am on my phone so I may have missed it

[drmyshottyizsik]

ok I will suicide tonight if I'm still the top wagon

[Elleran]

You had me up until the cloak, is this cookies or Harry potter. Lol

Anyways that's either the most detailed lie I have ever heard OR your telling the truth. I'm leaning toward the truth still but that cloak is tripping me up, seems out of place. I'd beleive hood or vest more

I'm just telling you the flavor in the role PM, lol.

I still believe Shotty's claim. He had threatened to eat his own cookie since Day 1, which suggests that he was hinting at his role even then. It doesn't make sense that he'd just make up such a lie back then. Suiciding isn't a scum role because that'd be a stupid role. Him suiciding and going for NL is the same thing as just lynching him. Him suiciding and then trying to make up a case against another player seems difficult. I suggest that we try to formulate a case against a player now so that we can have a more solid case by the time deadline is almost up.

[RobCapone]

Well if shotty suicide is true, I'm voting furc

[lewarcher82]

Shotty, why tonight? If you are town, you should know that we need all the time we can have to plan our next move... why are you procrastinating once again?

I start to smell a failed bluff...

[drmyshottyizsik]

lew, I most likely won't be on in the next two days

[RobCapone]

lew, I most likely won't be on in the next two days

so that means you should do it now so we can know if you are bluffing or not

[drmyshottyizsik]

you will find out tonight