Mini 1088: Cookie Thief Mafia (Game Over)

[drmyshottyizsik]

am I L-1?

[RobCapone]

why and how?
why wouldn't you let me prove myself?
ARE YOU MAFIA ROB!?!?

1. Rtt
2. We have been waiting but nothing happened, than you claim you read your pm wrong
3. No I'm not

[drmyshottyizsik]

I’M EATING MY COOKIE! OM NOM NOM

yay! I'm going to die now. Bye Bye

[drmyshottyizsik]

no comments?

[Elleran]

We're waiting to see what's going to happen as soon as the mod comes back.

[drmyshottyizsik]

ok, I'm going to die and I'm going to be hungry Harald, suicidal townie

[RobCapone]

We're waiting to see what's going to happen as soon as the mod comes back.

[drmyshottyizsik]

oh well technically I'm a cookie scout

[FakeGod]

drmyshottyizsik had enough. He wanted his cookie, and he wanted it now.

Before Delicious Delly could stop him and give him a lecture on importance of keeping tradition, drmyshottyizsik climbed up the Basket Tree, fished his cookie out, and swallowed it in one gulf.

Delicious Delly frowned. Now, drmyshottyizsik had to leave the camp because he had no cookie. And for breaking rules, of course.

After searching through his cabin, Delicious Delly concluded that drmyshottyizsik was

Hungry Harold

, a loyal

Cookie Scout

member.

This meant that Cookie Thieves had one less scout to worry about.

It would be sundown soon. Scouts gathered around with a glum look on their faces.

drmyshottyizsik, who was

Hungry Harold

, a

Cookie Scout

, ate his own cookie in day 2.

[FakeGod]

Vote Count 2.17

"New Year's Eve." -mod

With drmyshottyizsik gone, all the votes are reseted.

Not Voting: Everyone.

With 9 players, it takes 5 votes to lynch someone.

The new deadline is Jan. 7th, 2011!

[drmyshottyizsik]

/bah
and NEW DEAD LINE!?!?!?! I would have suicided on the last day if I knew dead line would be pushed back!

umm, it's the same deadline as before...... -mod

[Llamarble]

No, it IS pro-town.

The reason why I would intentionally not say anything is to protect my identity. This also explains my 'meh' post.

I knew Darox was town. SO WHAT? He wasn't playing productively nor was he getting himself any town-cred. It was such a bother to try to protect him because it not only attracted unnecessary attention to myself and him, but it detracted the town's attention away from scumhunting. By not directly saying "Darox is town", I tried to protect Darox without revealing my role.

You misinterpreted me.

My excuse to those statements was not "to avoid excessive attention". That excuse was why I didn't want to speak out when Andrew and Darox were addressed. My reason for the 'meh mood' was because despite my cop-findings on his town alignment, he was still acting unproductively and scummily

. I felt like a lawyer trying to defend a client who was telling everyone that he is guilty. My read is a read and his actions are HIS actions. Llamarble, do not associate how he acts with the alignment I claimed that he is. He is town, but he is not acting as such. That's not my problem.

You say you'd claim to protect a mislynch against someone who you knew was town? I wouldn't. I still have yet to use my other 2 abilities. Claiming and just getting killed earlier would be detrimental to town. Allowing a (I think) VT to live by sacrificing the cop (or JOAT in this case) is a bad idea. Not claiming but trying to protect the person is a strategy. If you consider such strategy scummy, then that's too bad. I think it's a legit pro-town move.

REFRAMING DETECTED

VOTE: Elleran
The contradiction is that he says he made the "meh post" to protect his identity,
but now says he was not doing it to avoid excessive attention after I explained why that's scummy.

Also if I were townEli I would claim to prevent a Darox mislynch;
the remaining powers you described do not make townElleran valuable enough to allow a confirmed innocent to die when you could stop it.
You seem to have an "I care more about surviving than helping the town win" mindset.

[RobCapone]

I definitely see a contradiction in those posts, but I am sticking to my guns here

Vote furclow

[Darox]

Sooner or later you're going to have to accept that other people play differently from you Llamarble.
Sometimes they do things that do not seem optimal or correct to you.

I am perpetually disappointed by my fellow town members in this fashion. Wish some broader perspective and relieving yourself of the mining gear, you can be as well!

[Llamarble]

Well who do you think is scum now, Darox?

[Darox]

Nobody.

I think everyone here is town, and we just need to wait for the mod to come in and declare a pacifist victory.

[andrew94]

vote elleran

ur comment of you saying ur laptop instead of your fingerprint thing sounds like a slip

+ wtf cloak??
+ u said you didnt want to reveal ur ability
+ u said u didnt leaeve ur house last night

[RobCapone]

You think that was a detailed lie?

[andrew94]

its not even detailed..

fake claims etc

[Elleran]

@Llamarble: Wow, congratulations. I did not say the verbatim reason as before. So what? My purpose is the same.

You're still a determined scum trying to frame a town PR so that you can save your NK for someone else. (like Darox who is a confirmed town, for example) Saying that my claim isn't 'detailed enough' makes absolutely no sense (this goes to Andrew too). I want you or Andrew to clarify how my role descriptions aren't 'detailed enough'. I stated what my powers are as they are. If they sound odd to you, then oh well; that's how they are described in my role PM.

In fact, Andrew has been just following Llamarble and Rob blindly since this day had started. I'm beginning to think that perhaps his claim was fake after all.

@Llamarble again: Yes, I DO think that my existence is more valuable than outing myself for Darox. Darox has not been particularly helpful for town nor had he claimed any important role. Claiming to protect a probably VT is most definitely NOT the best choice for me, especially when I still have powers that are unused. I don't know what you are considering the best move for town is, but you seem be saying that I SHOULD HAVE outed myself when Darox was under suspicion because it would have been pro-town. I disagree completely.

Listen to this: Had I outed myself much much earlier in order to protect Darox, it would have simply attracted attention away from scumhunting. We would still be arguing about the legitimacy of my claim and you'd still be incredulous as you are now. Not only that, but I would be NK'ed for sure during the next night without a hope of using my other powers. You say that it was a mistake to hold my claim back. Tell me why.

[andrew94]

dude the mod obviously gave you a fake claim and you used it?

[Llamarble]

The purpose is not the same. One says A & B, the other says (Not A) & B.
You reframed one of your explanations not to include A after I said A was scummy.

I haven't focused on the detail level in your role description.
It looks either well thought out or related to you / a buddy's scumrole or a mod-given fakeclaim PM.
I don't think you should have claimed to protect Darox earlier since he wasn't ever really threatened yet.
What I said is that if Darox was really on his way to a lynch, claiming to stop a mislynch would be worth it.
Clear?

Other than that I want to lynch you (OMGUS Whee) why do you think I am scum?

[lewarcher82]

I want the GCs to reveal their names, and I mean right now. Any attempt at wasting time is scummy.

I want Darox to take a position and name some players he finds scummy.

I want Don_Johnson to post.

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This is the first big wagon on shotty:

Vote Count 2.7

"Christmas soon." -mod

drmyshottyizsik (4): Darox, Llamarble, Elleran, RobCapone
RobCapone (1): Furcolow
Furcolow (1): drmyshottyizsik
Darox (1): andrew94

Not Voting: Zed, don_johnson,, lewarcher82

With 10 players, it takes 6 votes to lynch someone.

I am deeply convinced that at least one of the people who quickly voted shotty at the beginning of day 2 is scum. Scum saw the name hungry harold as a wonderful frame, and they felt jumping on him was a safe way to lynch a townie.

I am almost convinced that Elleran is genuine and Darox is town. Therefore, the players I am willing to lynch are Rob and Llamarble.

- Rob never took any innovative position, all he did so far was agreeing or disagreeing with cases made by other people. Moreover, he is in the GC, and a scum in a neighborhood is still likely.
- Llamarble on the contrary posted a lot of stuff, but given the weak arguments - mostly semantic - he tends to provide, he can easily qualify as aggressive scum.

Oh, if DJ does not start posting in a convincing way, I will have to start fosing him, cuz I have seen town-DJ in another game (and I checked some of his meta) and he normally posts A LOT of good conetnt.

[Furcolow]

vote: rob

he is scum
it is painfully obvious to me

[andrew94]

to you, not me,

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