Continuing the Elleran Case:
The "evidence" of Furcolow that Elleran refers to is that Furc believes him being a neighbor intrinsically makes one of the other neighbors scum.
My response to that was: in no way does it make sense for a mod to give a player a 50:50 lynch. Presumably they are just regular neighbors.
E's response of HERPA DERPA SOUNDS GOOD TO ME does not sound like town carefully considering information to decide who is the best lynch.
It sounds like scum happy to have found an excuse to push a mislynch. Elleran actively avoided scumhunting poison and was content to vote park on her until she died because of the crap reason above and because she asked a couple players to be more active, which he said looked like "trying to command scumbuddies." HOW DO PEOPLE THINK THIS IS TOWN PLAY?
Elleran wrote:Like I said, I don't have a preference for either GC lynch.
HOW CAN YOU NOT HAVE A PREFERENCE BETWEEN TWO LYNCHES? ANSWER: YOU ARE SCUM AND DON'T CARE AS LONG AS YOU HIT TOWN.
People who are town scumhunt to figure out who they think the best lynch is. You seem to just want to hit anyone from a group, such as the following group which he listed without any explanation of why any of the members are scummy.
Look, guys. IMO, these guys are town: Darox, Shotty, Lewarcher, Andrew, Zed, and myself. I think 3 of the following are scums: Llamarble, RobCopone, Don_Johnson, and Furcolow. We should get one of people on my scumlist to be lynched today.
He gave a stunningly mediocre explanation of his townlist when it was demanded shortly thereafter, and no explanation of the scumlist. In general, the only scumhunting I could find from Elleran was pointing out the weirdness of Furc's play and the very weak case he used as an excuse to vote-park on Poison. He did not follow up on his case against Furc and instead later voted Rob, again making me think he's not actually trying to figure out who the scum are. Right now he wants to lynch me, but the only thing he has accused me of is thinking he is scum. Town players vote people because they think they are scum. They provide reasoning for their votes in a process called scumhunting. I do not see this process from Elleran. HE WANTS TO LYNCH PEOPLE BUT DOESN'T DEMONSTRATE PROTOWN REASONING FOR SUCH BY SCUMHUNTING.
Elleran wrote:
Last night, I investigated Darox because he was acting so strangely. It was an Alignment Investigation that is once-useable that involved
using my 'laptop'
.
Elleran wrote:
I do my
alignment investigation using Fingerprint Scanning Kit
.
I do my name investigation using a laptop that runs out of battery after one use.
I do my watcher ability using a traveling cloak to watch someone, but the cloak gets ruined after one use.
Ignore the flavor if you don't like them. The power is what that matters. (Also, I know that I said 'I'll eat my laptop' before. I ddn't say 'fingerprint scanning device' on purpose because that'd be more than breadcrumbing. By saying 'laptop' it'd make sense because I'm using a computer to play MafiaScum which I would eat.)
Scum are less likely to keep their story straight because it isn't actually their story. They are therefore prone to contradictions such as this one.
And the one I mentioned before where he essentially states
"I made the meh post because I did not want to give away my identity."
"I did not make the meh post because I did not want attention, I did it because I was frustrated with Darox."
Reframing a story to make it sound less scummy usually means it wasn't true either time.
This is not a semantic/wording argument, this is you saying X, then saying "Not X; Y."
Much of Elleran's defense against my case seems to be based on mixing up "always" with "likely"
Just because occasionally a player who pushes mislynches without scumhunting, contradicts himself on several occasions, lacks a clear stance on a player they later say is confirmed town, and is for a mass roleclaim, but then claims an important PR, could against the odds be town, it does not mean we should not lynch them.
I am ready to see an Elleran Hammer.
