Oldy Mafia (Game Over, who won?)

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Because either Glrok is town and I should sheep him or he's scum and he's likely bussing Shanba (Yos flipping town being relevant here) combined with an absence of town tells.

[Patrick]

Votecount

HackerHuck (3) -- Ether, Lord Gurgi, ChannelDelibird
Porochaz (3) -- Shanba, CrashTextDummie, Ythill
ChannelDelibird (1) -- chamber
Shanba (3) -- Glork, Cogito Ergo Sum, HackerHuck

Not voting: MrBuddyLee, Porochaz
12 alive, 7 to lynch

[Ythill]

I'm not feeling a HH lynch ATM. Maybe I'll think differently once I'm done with isos and whatnot.

As strong as my town read is on Ether, her recent play feels like confident scum. Maybe I'm just being paranoid now.

[Ether]

I dunno if I should be posting right now. Earlier when I was trying to formulate a response to Yos it just turned into a rant in my head. I dunno. Are you trying to bait me? Like, I have put serious spadework into these discussions too. It's not obviously untrue, if it were fucking obviously untrue then I wouldn't be fucking saying it would I. Jesus Christ Yos, this game, like, no one and I mean no one has been able to come up with an attack on you that you haven't immediately dismissed as stupid and laughable, but that's so fucking ridiculous. I mean, look at the fucking playerlist? Is everyone attacking you scum? Or are we all morons who can't see how townie you are? Or perhaps, just perhaps, you're just unable to accept that yeah, people do have a frigging point. You have spouted some insane little things this game - e.g. MBL not scumhunting, also e.g. some of your comments on chamber. You're probably just scum and I shouldn't rise to this, but hell.

What is it I'm not seeing? What the hell is it? You kept saying how much you were trying to understand Ectomancer, too, but that's patently untrue. He spent furfriggingever trying to explain why his scumhunting was only giving weak reads, but no one gave a shit. And then you just dismiss it saying "oh he was doc docs look like scum". Like wtf. I said it before and I'll say it again, the only reason I can see for you moving on to Ectomancer was the fact that he was making a fuss. Cause his scumhunting was simply not abnormally low in comparison with various others in the game. And you totally blanked on chamber. Go read that this again. WHY? WHY DID YOU SUDDENLY SHIFT FOCUS FROM CHAMBER TO ECTO? From your stated positions in the game, it makes no sense, none at all. Why did you not start pressuring other low content players? In brief, why switch and why ecto? Neither is clear. Neither is obvious.

Damn your manipulative little emotional outburst. Damn it to hell and back. Like what are you hoping to achieve with that? How dare you say I'm insulting you? I am not fucking insulting you. Your play this game IS SCUMMY. Like, there is no other way to describe it.

So what you are saying is scum typed this.

That's pretty paranoid, Ythill.

[Ether]

Obviously the first part of that post was addressed to CES and the second part was addressed to Ythill. I mean, Ythill can have them both if he wants.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Like, I have put serious spadework into these discussions too. It's not obviously untrue, if it were fucking obviously untrue then I wouldn't be fucking saying it would I.

I think Shanba was legitimately annoyed and used that.

Let's ask Shanba: could you've typed something like that as scum, Shanba?

[Ether]

So where the fuck is Crash?

[MrBuddyLee]

Both have made big, well-argued scum cases on a couple of people (inHim and Yos, IIRC) which made me more willing to vote said people and they're liable to do it again at some stage, so I think it's pretty important that I examine how much I can afford to trust them.

You were the one who tried to persuade me to vote inHim. Repeatedly. Didn't you feel strongly that he was scum all game long?

[Ether]

Hi, MBL! Discuss HackerHuck.

I know that chamber's been glancing at the thread lately. I also know that he's due for a prod in about three hours. Hello, chamber.

[chamber]

I am? Well then. Prod avoided.

[Ether]

How's that full reread going?

[chamber]

Not well, I keep trying, but, well, yeah.

[Ether]

Yeah I know that feeling. Way easier to keep track of things by actually being involved in the game.

Anything you wanna note? I think you should move to HackerHuck if you're having issues with your own reads. Hopefully CDB will sort himself out, but I dunno; I'd still give pretty high odds that he's just counting time.

[chamber]

Other than wishing CTD would get, and answer the question I asked, I've got nothing to note. If I did I would have noted it. This reread attempt is fairing better than the last few though. I've made it to page 3!

[Ether]

...

You're...reading it from the start?

[chamber]

If I don't do it in one go stuff doesnt stick properly. 81 pages is a lot .

[Ether]

Jeez. Um, you want me to stay online? You gonna be all right? Are you sure all of this is more important than just isolating posts?

[chamber]

isoing is useless for gaining context, which is what I'm rereading for.

[Ether]

Ah.

You do that. I'm staying on until you find something and note it.

[chamber]

I wouldn't hold my breath too long. While you are here though, are you sure you aren't scum this game?

[Ether]

Quite sure. Why?

[chamber]

You've claimed to be transparent as scum, what game where you were scum would you call your least transparent? Include a link please.

[Ether]

There aren't a whole lot of games to actually pick from. (I did trick Glork in my first newbie game, but I don't think my play there was particularly good, and of course this newbie game is four and a half years old.) Here's Mini 771 (php2 version for the filter), where I tricked Incognito and a couple of other people with metas on me early on before getting caught by a watcher on Day 2. I think the contrast is still pretty obvious after random voting was out of the way.

[Ether]

If I don't do it in one go stuff doesnt stick properly.

Sooooooooo I'm assuming that's a failure then.

[Ythill]

Blech.

I tried to get started but I'm not feeling it tonight. Maybe tomorrow.