Mini 1088: Cookie Thief Mafia (Game Over)

[drmyshottyizsik]

sigh,,, you guys got too hung up on my role name

[RobCapone]

Yes kubla, I am homj

[RobCapone]

@furclow - why did you not realize ever that we had to submit the same name for our action to work?

Why did you refuse to discuss anything in the QT?

yes I was scum but you hurt town, your job was to try and HELP town.

[Elleran]

Wow. By the end, every one of my reads were right. I was seriously posting everything genuinely. The breadcrumb was real, and all my cases were things that I believed. Please, any critiques or things I can improve on? I was pretty unhappy when many of you (lol mostly scums) didn't believe me claim. The towns (Zed, Darox, Lew) seemed to believe me while the scums (Llamarble, Don) didn't. Rob was the odd one that didn't really follow Llamarble right away, which sort of threw me off initially.

Good job Llamarble, you really carried the scums home. GG.

I realized that Don was probably a scum when he said that he would return with a case against me but never really posted anything substantial. i.e. it seemed to me like a scumbuddy following Llamarble's lead.

I liked the setup. Good job, Mod!

I wasn't quite happy with the way some of the people here played, though. :\

Also, I partially blame the town loss to Furc's irresponsible voting and leaving in LyLo. I reread the thread after lewarcher had died and realized that the only one who WOULD have died was either me or lew. xD I should have known..

@Everyone: Do you have a critique on my styles and reasonings to why you didn't believe my case/breadcrumb/claim/reasonings?

[RobCapone]

so you thought Llmarbale was the better player? I was sure I was the most "town" of the scum

[andrew94]

Yes kubla, I am homj

y change alias...

[RobCapone]

Cause I like being called Rob

[andrew94]

if i knew you were homj, i would have rvs'ed you instead of shotty = =

[PoisonIvy]

..and this is why Furcolow should be PLed d1.

Agreed.

Furcolow your..... overindulgence in yourself and excess brute force and refusal to act as a unit is exhausting and deminishing. I'd like to think Rob would have been caught out along the line if we had done so or if you had kept your mouth shut past what was it? Page 5? But realistically, im never going to see how that one worked out. But good play semi halting my lynch Rob. You looked the eppervesence of town imo and once i flipped Furcolow had less influence than he may have otherwise had. Im not saying its a bad thing to be outspoken furcolow but maybe you want to curb it a little.

lewarcher82. You were a solid town read. I think that your game was okay but you took on a leadership role for a part and im not quite sure you handled it well.

PS. Elleran. Sorry, i think i might have tried pushing your lynch a bit. Apologies for that. I was partially trying to save my own skin but on top of that i just really thought you were scummy.

[RobCapone]

I felt my best play was try and minimize the idea that there was scum in the GC

Would have loved to played this out the way it was probably intended, furc outing us ruined some possibilities for sure

[RobCapone]

Oh thoughts on my fake claim?

[andrew94]

i thought that if you were town you better not use it

[drmyshottyizsik]

wtf Rob == HOMJ!?!?!?!?
No wonder I hated you!!!!!
GO AWAY!

[Darox]

Well that was stupid.

Stand by what I said day 1 or 2 or whenever.

Lynching Furcolow is always protown, no matter what role he has.

[Llamarble]

Elleran, I think you played pretty well.
Your defense was mostly good, but I think you would have had a better chance of lynching me if you had gone through my ISO quoting scummy stuff to build a case off of. I never really saw you explain what your reads were based on beyond gut reads and tried to take advantage of that when I was attacking you.
A town with more clearthinkinglistener/analyzer types would have helped you, but that's why we were killing them.
Darox saying I was a waste of a lynch D2 hurt the chances I'd get lynched a lot, and after a townie lynch we only needed one vote in lylo.

[Elleran]

Elleran, I think you played pretty well.
Your defense was mostly good, but I think you would have had a better chance of lynching me if you had gone through my ISO quoting scummy stuff to build a case off of. I never really saw you explain what your reads were based on beyond gut reads and tried to take advantage of that when I was attacking you.
A town with more clearthinkinglistener/analyzer types would have helped you, but that's why we were killing them.
Darox saying I was a waste of a lynch D2 hurt the chances I'd get lynched a lot, and after a townie lynch we only needed one vote in lylo.

Thanks.

Yes, you scums were really good at picking out the right town players. In the end, I was left with... Andrew, Darox, and Furcolow. Basically, my life probably had a better of surviving had I flipped a coin instead. I should have seen the lewarcher kill coming; I thought only slightly about the possible WIFOM scums could have posed and thought more in the line of "how can I confirm my role so that I can get Llamarble (you) lynched" and did not calculate the scum actions into my plan.

Yes, tryng to protect Darox was a pain. I tried my best, seriously. I don't know how someone else could have done better...

Furcolow was the ruining blow in the end. He literally handed the scums the victory by voting me then becoming unresponsive for the rest of the game. No such thing should exist in LyLo...

@Darox: Your role was quite useful, especially the longer you lived. You could have confirmed my role actually, since I was one of the 2 that visited the basket tree on Night 1. I just wish you had played better because your lack of substance made it difficult for me to give good reasoning as to why you were town.

[Elleran]

@Llamarble: Also, your attack on me was impressive. Although I saw through the tunneling and realized that you were most likely scum, I couldn't nail anything other than "you are tunneling" because that's literally all you were doing. Imo, you were sooo focused on getting me lynched that your offense didn't leave any room for me to find a flaw in your character. i.e. to attack you, the only thing you left available to me was to critique and dissect your overly-zealous case against me. But meh... In the end, I had to convince the players who didn't seem to care enough to listen to me.

[Elleran]

@Rob: Yes, you were pretty good as well. You usually did not follow Llamarble immediately, which made it harder to try to nail you along with him.

Unfortunately, I was very suspicious of you from the beginning because of Furcolow's claim that one of the GC was probably a scum. From there, it was hard to stop seeing you as a scum. Your attempt to reduce the possibility of there being a scum actually made it seem like you were the scum trying to take away attention/significance from the speculation. xD Sorry, but perhaps your plan backfired a little?

Otherwise, your play was good.

[RobCapone]

yeah my plan backfired

[RobCapone]

Thanks for ignoring my pm furc

Anyway we need to enforce the furc quitting mafia statement

[Kublai Khan]

Actually, now that the game is over..

Edited out... -mod

I think you're a good mod FakeGod, but I feel this was the wrong move to make. Especially since a town player already saw the information and commented on it. It's unfortunate that furcolow broke a rule (though it wasn't listed as a rule at the time), but I feel that the appropriate action is to acknowledge the damage done and punish the player (modkill or forcereplace). As it was, you created a pocket "informed minority" of GC + lewarcher82 which really screwed with my readings in this game.

The only things that should ever be redacted are inappropriate links (to ongoing games, porn, etc..)

I don't know. Maybe you are right. But I didn't have that in the rule set at the time, so I felt like I couldn't just modkill/punish furcolow.
-mod

[LlamaGod]

What was edited out, out of curiosity?

HI LlamaGod!!!!! -mod

[RobCapone]

What was edited out, out of curiosity?

the girl scouts QT stuff

[Elleran]

Furcolow directly quoted out the QT?

[RobCapone]

Furcolow directly quoted out the QT?

yes