Oldy Mafia (Game Over, who won?)

[MrBuddyLee]

Whatever. Claim.

Says the gal who's been "wrong" about everything this game. Nice job on that no-lynch, by the way.

[Ether]

The one that you did your best to fuck up by having Shanba out himself as vanilla first?

Really I just want CES to give some results at this point. Then I'll deal with you whether you've made up a claim or not.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

I already claimed at some point - VT.

[Ether]

Hmm.

Why's MBL town?

[Patrick]

Votecount

No votes!

7 alive, 4 to lynch.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Hmm.

Why's MBL town?

G-g-g-gut.

[Ether]

Any subtleties you may have been trying to get across by stuttering were lost on me. Just so we're clear on that.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

They're lost on me too, so that's fine.

[MrBuddyLee]

The one that you did your best to fuck up by having Shanba out himself as vanilla first?

What are you talking about?

[Ether]

Guess.

[MrBuddyLee]

I'm a VT.

Glrok still needs to die.

[Ether]

Uh...if that was an attempt to be helpful, thanks? That's not Shanba.

[Porochaz]

I dont see the point here, it's not that I dont get what she's getting at, I just see it as completely pointless. I guess she has to say something to make sure noone notices that the HH lynch is yet another tally in her fail collumn.

[Ether]

I don't know what you just said.

[MrBuddyLee]

Uh...if that was an attempt to be helpful, thanks? That's not Shanba.

You said CES hadn't claimed. I thought I might have recalled a claim and checked, and actually, he's claimed. So can you please explain why you thought that Shanba giving his suspects would have been a bad thing yesterday?

Gurgi, do you give a crap whether you or I claim first?

[Zorblag]

So I don't care what order the claims finish up in but sooner is better than later.

For those that were there at the time, why did the Untrod Tripod wagon die on day one? I'll look over it tomorrow but if anyone has insight to share I'll listen to it.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[MrBuddyLee]

Vanilla, like it matters at this point.

Ythill and stark, possibly among others, pushed the argument that the Tripod wagon was weak. CTD disagreed and Glork was on the fence but flopped to Ecto. chamber (your seat) hopped off UT, as did CES, who cited stark as he switched to Ecto.

[Ether]

You were correct about CES having claimed. You just...gave that correction after CES had already done so.

Shanba was the obvious kill last night. If he was a power role, he absolutely needed to claim first. But the converse of that meant him posting

without

a claim pretty much meant softclaiming vanilla. (That made the balance between giving him ample time to claim and not looking like I was giving him ample time to claim kind of awkward. I dunno about Gurgi/Porochaz/CES's votes, but I waited until I knew Shanba had been on AIM for a bit before placing my vote.)

[MrBuddyLee]

I just wanted to see the guy's thought processes on who's scum and who isn't. I don't really get the whole claim obsession.

[MrBuddyLee]

Shanba was the obvious kill last night. If he was a power role, he absolutely needed to claim first. But the converse of that meant him posting

without

a claim pretty much meant softclaiming vanilla. (That made the balance between giving him ample time to claim and not looking like I was giving him ample time to claim kind of awkward. I dunno about Gurgi/Porochaz/CES's votes, but I waited until I knew Shanba had been on AIM for a bit before placing my vote.)

So wait, you suspected Shanba might be a power role, so you urged a fast no-lynch so he could be nightkilled before he gave results or his suspicions? Please clarify.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

That's not what that says at all, MBL.

[MrBuddyLee]

The one that you did your best to fuck up by having Shanba out himself as vanilla first?

Really I just want CES to give some results at this point. Then I'll deal with you whether you've made up a claim or not.

Please explain what results you were expecting from CES and why.

[MrBuddyLee]

That's not what that says at all, MBL.

I see it now. She claims to have suspected you had a role, and thus she wanted Shanba dead instead of you. It smells funny, and I want to see what Ether's up to here. Granted, at least two townies rushed to kill off Shanba, so it's not necessarily a scumtell, but I want to hear people's logic behind their decisions.

[MrBuddyLee]

Porochaz, why am I scum?

Well, I could say the push on the two lurkers and the person Ive found most townie in this game or the fact that you were completely and utterly wrong about Glork and went so far as not to just disagree with the opinion but to strongly defend him.

That first post of starks keeps coming back to haunt me as well.

Porochaz, what post of stark's were you referring to here, and why did it bother you?

[Ether]

CES.

Please

tell me why MBL is remotely townish. What would you expect him to do differently as scum?