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Post Post #1625 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2011 7:09 am

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It is consistent I guess. I still have massive problems with the fact that you generally refuse to go into more detailed scumhunting tasks when your past games as Town, you do this much more extensively. What's different?

Can you explain the chain of logic leading to how Xtoxm targetted and was thus killed by inHim? I see your post where you do this, but I can't say the logic is jumping out at me. Main problem is that I don't buy the last Xtoxm post as an actual breadcrumb of any sort.
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Post Post #1626 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2011 7:58 am

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What's different is lack of interest.

If you don't buy the crumb as being a crumb, you won't think inhim was targeted.
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Post Post #1627 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2011 9:36 am

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Kmd4390 wrote:If you don't buy the crumb as being a crumb, you won't think inhim was targeted.
Crumb, what crumb? There's a crumb?
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Post Post #1628 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2011 9:42 am

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While I don't object particularly to an inHim lynch, Spyrex would be my personal perference.
This allegedly crumbs inHim as the target that Night. I don't see it, myself.
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Post Post #1629 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2011 11:51 am

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Post Post #1630 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2011 12:58 pm

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yabbaguy wrote:
While I don't object particularly to an inHim lynch, Spyrex would be my personal perference.
This allegedly crumbs inHim as the target that Night. I don't see it, myself.
Oh that, that sounds more like a SpyreX hint.
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Post Post #1631 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2011 12:58 pm

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Actually, we pretty much have to kill SpyreX, come to think of it.
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Post Post #1632 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:57 pm

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Xtoxm wrote:I went for someone who I had a town lean on who I thought would not be NKed.
Xtoxm had a Town lean on neither inHim nor SpyreX according to that last statement. I actually think this is a definitively busted argument.
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Post Post #1633 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2011 4:03 pm

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Wait, that's the crumb? Since when?
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Post Post #1634 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2011 4:58 pm

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Since this.
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Post Post #1635 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2011 5:01 pm

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yabbaguy wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:I went for someone who I had a town lean on who I thought would not be NKed.
Xtoxm had a Town lean on neither inHim nor SpyreX according to that last statement. I actually think this is a definitively busted argument.
I'm sorry, it almost sounds like you're trying to use Xtoxm's reasoning for his night one target to imply his reasons for his night two target... I must be mistaken because Xtoxm couldn't have replaced into this game again on night two to find himself in a similar circumstance... There are too many factors you would have to overlook to think he would have "gone for someone he had a town lean on or thought would not be NKed" night two... unless I've missed your point here.
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Post Post #1636 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2011 5:07 pm

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Maybe he did change tactics. So again, we can't assume anything. :\
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Post Post #1637 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2011 5:21 pm

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Well... I can't argue with you there... I still think it's fair to assume based on his wording that his choice night one wasn't his intended "tactic" at all, but fine, whatever.
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Post Post #1638 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:35 am

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yabbaguy wrote:Maybe he did change tactics. So again, we can't assume anything. :\
I would like to assume that he changed tactics.

Because you know, it makes sense, and I can see Xtomx on a suicide-mission after his premature claim.

Totall makes sense.

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Post Post #1639 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:52 am

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You guys are really going to make me spell this out.

-Xtoxm gave a town/scum list. He said ONLY TOWN order was relevant. Inhim was at the VERY BOTTOM in towniness.
-Xtoxm said he went after someone who he thought was town and wouldn't be NKd. Inhim was at the BOTTOM of his town list.
-Xtoxm later shows some support for an Inhim lynch, someone who was just on his TOWN list.
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Post Post #1640 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:52 am

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Hint: the town list and next quote in my post are the crumbs.
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Post Post #1641 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:57 am

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So that means that it's highly unlikely that Xtomx targeted InHim.
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Post Post #1642 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 3:01 am

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If he fell off the Town list, he doesn't have a Town read on inHim.

But again, I also buy that the tactics changed.

I assume we can assume nothing is my thought.
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Post Post #1643 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 3:17 am

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Closest is still SPyreX.
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Post Post #1644 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 7:32 am

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Inhim was only on the town list as a crumb. Xtoxm didn't think inhim was town. Someone check Xtoxm's ISO and see what his read on Inhim was BEFORE all of this. I don't know if I have time to do it myself, but I bet he called him scum before the list.
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Post Post #1645 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 7:35 am

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Ok, Xtoxm only had one post before his list. Can't show anything there. Still, I don't think he really read Inhim as town.
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Post Post #1646 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:02 am

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Saying he hid behind me, while wrong, at least makes more sense than inHim out of that list.

He said clearly he knew the role and it would be confirmable. Further, he's knowledgeable enough to know if he's attempting a suicide mission
to make it clear.


He hid behind someone in his town group. That means it COULD have been inHim, but good lord that doesn't equate an automatic inHim any more than the fact the OTHER line of thought would have been DGB or SpyreX but yet its been me.
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Post Post #1647 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:05 am

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Unvote, (re)Vote: inHimshallibe


Not in light of any crumb of sorts, I'm just more sure of him now than Kmd.
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Post Post #1648 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 10:10 am

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Post Post #1649 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 10:19 am

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Kmd4390 wrote:You guys are really going to make me spell this out.

-Xtoxm gave a town/scum list. He said ONLY TOWN order was relevant. Inhim was at the VERY BOTTOM in towniness.
-Xtoxm said he went after someone who he thought was town and wouldn't be NKd. Inhim was at the BOTTOM of his town list.
-Xtoxm later shows some support for an Inhim lynch, someone who was just on his TOWN list.
Wouldn't your last bullet point be a reason Xtomx DIDN'T hide behind inhim?
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