NY129-Mafia on Werewolf Island! (Game Over)

[tclawren]

@Jindori: Read his post again. He said going off of memory. I can't fault him for bad memory.

[Pine]

Not newbTown just failTown >_<

Did you really just hop on the competing wagon started by the person you thought needed to be policy lynched at first, and only backed off when you got an overwhelmingly bad response? C-Worl's vote makes this look like bus city.

Do I look stupid enough to make a mistake that obvious? Okay, if you're thinking 'yes,' then I'd have to let it go. But no, the reason I voted for C-Worl is because, at the time, he was the only one that made real, solid sense to me. There's a couple of others that are starting to make me take a second look, but at the time, just C-Worl.

tl;dr: Why are people voting Pine and not C-Worl? Pine is a decent lynch but it hangs on one point. C-Worl needs to die for multiple reasons.

I think your "one point" was pushing the other biggest wagon in town? Because you aren't doing this at all here, right?

FOS: Shift

[Shift]

I think your "one point" was pushing the other biggest wagon in town? Because you aren't doing this at all here, right?
FOS: Shift

I don't really get what you're asking right there. I've made my stance very clear in the fact that voting for you right now is ridiculous.

As for the "mistake" you obviously made one by pushing RF that you admitted yourself, so I don't see what would make you impervious to a second one.

[gorilla]

pine if you post one more emoticon to show how sad/frustrated you are I'm going to vote for you

[Shift]

pine if you post one more emoticon to show how sad/frustrated you are I'm going to vote for you

Better vote would be C-Worl.

[jindori]

Ok fine point proven
We will know for sure after the first night. But untill more evidence is piled up against him.

Unvote tbone

[Shift]

Jin, even then, the point on T-Bone knowing more than he should is bogus. Let's assume there are 3 kills (more doesn't really make a difference, less throws the point out altogether)

Mafia Kill
Werewolf Kill
??? Kill

??? kill could be either an SK or a vig. Both are common in large games.

T-Bone=Vig

Well, we're obviously not lynching him.

T-Bone=SK

In absolute claim or die mode, he could possibly claim vig (Though that's normally a bad idea for an SK) and guess what? We'd believe him

Chances are he's not even either of the two. I am honestly expecting three or four kills tonight, and at least 1 third party role. T-Bone saying that is a null tell in my book.

[jindori]

he said 3 or 4

[jindori]

whats a sk???

[Shift]

Serial Killer.

[Pine]

Serial Killer.

My point, Shift, is that while your biggest point against me is trying to blend into a wagon, you're pushing

both

of the biggest wagons in Town like it's your job.

[Shift]

That was a small point. The big point was your post against RF, which I stated I found scummy but not enough justification for a quicklynch, especially over C-Worl. And I'm clearly only pushing one wagon, once again. I honestly don't think where I stand on your lynch can get much clearer. Just in case:

PINE SHOULD NOT BE LYNCHED TODAY, C-WORL IS A MUCH BETTER LYNCH AND PINE SHOULD BE GIVEN TIME TO REDEEM HIMSELF

Is that clear enough?

[jindori]

now i feel stupid i thought i did something smart and found a vital piece of evidence but it turned out to eb nothing.

[Pine]

Goddammit. I hate having to apologize.

You're right, Shift. I misread the relevant post, and only the one phrase stuck out in my mind. FOS rescinded.

[C-Worl]

What exactly do y'all want me to do to defend myself? Say I made a mistake by overreacting to something that Frost did? Even, though when I've played mafia I've always considered that to be scum to do. You want me to say I'm a bad player and that I simply made mistakes? Honestly, nothing I say right now will sway your decision that I should be lynched. I will tell you outright that I AM town. Believe what you want but either way look at both wagons. There are scum on them.

[ConSpiracy]

Jin, even then, the point on T-Bone knowing more than he should is bogus. Let's assume there are 3 kills (more doesn't really make a difference, less throws the point out altogether)

Mafia Kill
Werewolf Kill
??? Kill

??? kill could be either an SK or a vig. Both are common in large games.

T-Bone=Vig

Well, we're obviously not lynching him.

T-Bone=SK

In absolute claim or die mode, he could possibly claim vig (Though that's normally a bad idea for an SK) and guess what? We'd believe him

Chances are he's not even either of the two. I am honestly expecting three or four kills tonight, and at least 1 third party role. T-Bone saying that is a null tell in my book.

I love this post. It doesn't explain at all why T-bone said 3 or 4.
jindori, you were right with your slip. Care to explain T-bone?

[kr0b]

C-Worl, who else do you think might possibly be scum, aside from Pine or RF?

I believe you may be an eager-beaver towniepoo but I need to see you actively helping the town, not distract us like you have done so far in this game. At the moment I think the only way you're going to look like you're town is if you actually start helping us, rather than hindering any progress with these self-pity posts such as #189.

[Nobody Special]

unvote

C-worl. Ahh, what a scummy player.

T-Bone, what's your experience level here at this site? Sorry if you've mentioned it and I missed it.

RF: A bit early for VCA, nu?

I'm staying off any wagons for the moment.

[T-Bone]

UHH HELLO?

[quote=MOD]
Red: Mafia
Brown: Werewolves
Purple: Third Party
Green: Town
[/quote]

I said ANTI-TOWN. As in Mafia or Werewolves, or Cult. Guess what? That's EXACTLY what the mod lists on the first post. Notice how I said 3 or 4? There are four factions right there, and THREE are Anti-town. Nice way to not read and try to turn a quick lynch guys.

@NS - Marathon games. First Large game here. I'm not a fool I played elsewhere.

@ Gorilla - I don't like either bandwagon. Why should I?

[T-Bone]

My quote tags failed.

Either way, people should read the Mod's first post again, otherwise, why bother playing? I simply restated the information the Mod gave us when I formed my opinion on the bandwagons.

[Nobody Special]

I didn't call you a fool, nor did I imply it. I simply asked. Defensive much?

[T-Bone]

I didn't imply you called me a fool. That was my way of saying I'm not new.

[DemonHybrid]

VOTE COUNT

Day 1 Vote Count (#8)

C-Worl - 9 (RayFrost, Seraphim, SnakePlissken, MaxKojote, Pine, Lucresia, [Moonstruck], Shift, tclawren) L-4
Pine - 6 (bristep123, ConSpiracy, C-Worl, Nachomamma8, Chronopie, Nero Cain)
Nobody Special - 3 (Lowell, Kise, implosion)
implosion - 1 (gorilla)
Chronopie - 1 (T-Bone)

Not voting - 4 (kr0b, MrZepher, jindori, Nobody Special)

Seraphim is V/LA until Saturday, April 2nd.
kr0b is V/LA until Saturday, March 26th.

The deadline for Day 1 is April 15th, 10:00 AM EDT. With 24 alive, it takes 13 to lynch and 12 to No Lynch.

[RayFrost]

unvote

C-worl. Ahh, what a scummy player.

T-Bone, what's your experience level here at this site? Sorry if you've mentioned it and I missed it.

RF: A bit early for VCA, nu?

I'm staying off any wagons for the moment.

Wasn't really a VCA. Just a convenient spot to grab names from to point out who I don't like due to their posting, etc.

[RayFrost]

What exactly do y'all want me to do to defend myself? Say I made a mistake by overreacting to something that Frost did? Even, though when I've played mafia I've always considered that to be scum to do. You want me to say I'm a bad player and that I simply made mistakes? Honestly, nothing I say right now will sway your decision that I should be lynched. I will tell you outright that I AM town. Believe what you want but either way look at both wagons. There are scum on them.

1. Replying to the point(s) against you.
2. Pointing out who is actually scum rather than just going "scumz on teh wagonz!"
3. Actually making sense in your cases.
4. Not giving a shit if you die or live.
5. Ceasing with the emotional appeals.

You're still scum, but keep this stuff in mind for future games.