American Gods Mafia - Game over

[Seacore]

Ninja'd by gaggle.

Well gaggle, if you want to leave saint alone, I'd like you to say who we should sacrifice.
If MoI is telling the truth but isn't scum, saint might be scum. So it makes sense to sacrifice him now.

Not to mention that if MoI flips scum, we'll argue back and forth tomorrow about whether we should trust his call on Saint, even though they could just be scum and SK. Lets just lynch him now to be done with.

[Seacore]

v/la for the weekend (Australian time). I read along on my phone, but don't expect too much posting unless I find time to jump on a computer.

[LlamaFluff]

Saint should claim if the visited Fate result is actually true or not before we get any further.

[OhGodMyLife]

Unsacrifice, Sacrifice: Saint

[LlamaFluff]

Or we could just flat out sacrafice him without a claim.

[Seacore]

OGML, quality player

At least we have tomorrow's lynch taken care of.

[AGar]

If anyone else has question for me I'll check in once a day or so.

At this stage I'm not going to waste time attempting to get any interactions and reasons since everyone's mind is made up.

Once I flip you can start looking at those who jumped on my wagon with little forethought.

To echo Farside - why watch Fate? From what I gathered you didn't have an exceedingly town read on him at all, so to watch him doesn't make sense to me.

OGML, quality player

At least we have tomorrow's lynch taken care of.

No.

[Jahudo]

”as a pagan, who do you worship?"
"Worship?"
"That's right. I imagine you must have a pretty wide-open field. So to whom do you set up your household altar? To whom do you bow down? To whom do you pray at dawn and at dusk?"
"The female principle. It's an empowerment thing. You know?”

Resurrection Vote Count

7 Votes Required

Apokalyptika (9) – A Gaggle of Geese, Llamafluff, farside22, Seacore, OhGodMyLife, Locke Lamora, LynchMePls, AGar, MagnaofIllusion

Not Voting (4):

SGRaaize, Saint, Kublai Khan, WrathChild

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Sacrifice Vote Count

7 Votes Required

Saint (7) – WrathChild, AGar, MagnaofIllusion, LynchMePls, Seacore, farside22, OhGodMyLife
Kublai Khan (1) – Saint
Seacore (1) – Llamafluff

Not Voting (4):

A Gaggle of Geese, SGRaaize, Kublai Khan, Locke Lamora

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Lynch Vote Count

7 Votes Required

MagnaofIllusion (5) – A Gaggle of Geese, Llamafluff, farside22, AGar, Saint
AGar (1) – OhGodMyLife
Seacore (1) – LynchMePls
OhGodMyLife (1) – MagnaofIllusion

Not Voting (5):

SGRaaize, WrathChild, Locke Lamora, Kublai Khan, Seacore

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Backstage Vote Count:

Top Four Players Go Backstage

Seacore (6) – Seacore, Saint, Locke Lamora, Kublai Khan, farside22, MagnaofIllusion
A Gaggle of Geese (5) – A Gaggle of Geese, Llamafluff, farside22, Seacore, LynchMePls
Llamafluff (5) – A Gaggle of Geese, Llamafluff, farside22, WrathChild, Kublai Khan
Locke Lamora (5) – Seacore, OhGodMyLife, Saint, Locke Lamora, MagnaofIllusion
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Farside22 (4) – A Gaggle of Geese, LynchMePls, WrathChild, Saint
LynchMePls (3) – Llamafluff, LynchMePls, MagnaofIllusion
Kublai Khan (2) – Locke Lamora, Kublai Khan
OhGodMyLife (1) – OhGodMyLife

Not Voting (8):

SGRaaize x3, AGar x3, WrathChild x1, OhGodMyLife x1

Day 3 ends on April 12 at 6:00 PM EST

[farside22]

unvote:

I still want OMGL to reply about what Fate stated. Any reads he had/has.
I also want an answer from MOI about why he "watched" Fate.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Something feels off though, GG just mentioned what feels most odd. Just the result makes me uncomfortable.

Nice soft rhetorical argument (feels odd, you are uncomfortable). Have anything concrete to say? If Saint flips SK and not Mafia this looks like clear distancing from what scum knows to be a ‘bad’ non-Mafia sacrifice to me.

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the whole just for lynches thing sounds incredibly bad too. if town lynch wrong it doesn't matter as we get MOI to take that pr...

Getting a 1-shot use of a PR isn’t the same as taking over the PR. Thanks for more ‘Outguessing the Mod’ …

thanks for permission. at least you got the lack of flavour right.

Yeah, your magical ‘Tarp’ sure was effective. Here’s a hint – Traps only work when you are looking to trap someone who is lying.

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I still don't really buy his claim, seems too convient but the flavor fits because Mr. Ibis was a mortician.

What is convenient about my claim? Please detail why it is ‘convenient’ because it is far from convenient for me. I’d much rather have had a role that people wanted to keep around like Doc or Vig.

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MOI: Why did you "watch" Fate?

Because he was a logical target choice.

1. He got to go to the magical Backstage area and was the only new body there.
2. He soft-claimed roles as per his usual he would be a good target regardless of alignment.

MOI: While I'm asking did you read the book?

Nope have not read it yet. It’s on my list of soon-to-reads based on personal friends who have recommended it.

The rest of this post is horribly scummy given the facts outlined by Gaggle.

Still no comment as to why you had ZERO outrage for SGR’s claimless mistake hammer but mine is a Death Sentence?

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OGML, given that MoI is going to be lynched, would you mind switching your sacrifice vote to Saint. Or provide a good reason why not?

OGML, quality player

At least we have tomorrow's lynch taken care of.

Um, whut? You directly ask OGML (who still is scum, BTW) to move his sacrifice vote to Saint and the moment he does you call him scummy?

Hypocrisy and bad distancing from OGML for the loss here.

Unelect – Seacore

Independent of MoI's claim, we all thought he was scum, and are prepared to lynch him for it.

I’d ask you for reasons but … you know … that’s inconvenient.

[WrathChild]

@MoI: It's convient because it was basically Saint vs. MoI for the sacrifice and you claimed scum result (in a sense) on Saint to save your ass. That being said, I don't like all the flavor-power-level guessing that's going on. The flavor of the role matches the flavor of the book and I also think Ibis was a bigger role in the book than just a "minor character", so I think that's about as far as we should go with the flavor stuff. It's pretty apparent this game is not breakable by flavor, just from what we know already.

[MagnaofIllusion]

@MoI: It's convient because it was basically Saint vs. MoI for the sacrifice and you claimed scum result (in a sense) on Saint to save your ass.

Yet your theory blows right up since my claim ISN’T saving me. If I was faking a claim (I’m not, but I want to discuss the theoretical here) to save myself I would have claimed Vig who shot Ythill or a Doctor role who protected a Pro-Town player.

My role is marginally useful … it depends on the quality of the lynches each Day. We lynch VTs or Goons and I’m no more than a VT myself.

[AGar]

If I was faking a claim to save myself I would have claimed Vig who shot Ythill

Lolwut?

[MagnaofIllusion]

Lolwut?

What about my theoretical discussion confuses you AGar?

[A Gaggle of Geese]

oh good point.

unvote

[A Gaggle of Geese]

nah changed my mind xd

VOTE MAGANOFILLUSION

[A Gaggle of Geese]

ignore the spelling error.

[A Gaggle of Geese]

And yes I'm outguessing the fucking mod. I do not believe your role claim. I think you're scum and have done for some time. TARPS can also fail on competent players even if they're scum though.

Doctor would have bought you a very fucking quick hammer from me, so I see your' i'd not fake claim this' and that and raise you a 'that'd be a worse fakeclaim'

[MagnaofIllusion]

And yes I'm outguessing the fucking mod. I do not believe your role claim. I think you're scum and have done for some time. TARPS can also fail on competent players even if they're scum though.

Doctor would have bought you a very fucking quick hammer from me, so I see your' i'd not fake claim this' and that and raise you a 'that'd be a worse fakeclaim'

So you admit your pointless 'Tarp' was pointless regardless of my alignmnet. Bravo waste of time.

Um ... hard for you to quickhammer when you were already on me to begin with. Don't let reality get in the way of a good story.

If you want to miss the point of the statement that me claiming my role isn't a survival tactic good job. Because I'm not claiming to survive despite the fact that no-one seems to be willing to provide me reasons other than 'Dude, guts says you are scummy', 'Dude you accidently hammered ... yeah I ignored when others did that but you I get riled up about', and 'Dude your claim is fake because I like to outguess the Mod'.

[A Gaggle of Geese]

And yes I'm outguessing the fucking mod. I do not believe your role claim. I think you're scum and have done for some time. TARPS can also fail on competent players even if they're scum though.

Doctor would have bought you a very fucking quick hammer from me, so I see your' i'd not fake claim this' and that and raise you a 'that'd be a worse fakeclaim'

So you admit your pointless 'Tarp' was pointless regardless of my alignmnet. Bravo waste of time.

can fail
can fail
can fail
can fail

can fail = definitely a useless TARP in what language?

You're scum because you're scum. Your roleclaim hasn't changed my mind on that.

[MagnaofIllusion]

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can fail = definitely a useless TARP in what language?

You're scum because you're scum. Your roleclaim hasn't changed my mind on that.

Oh .. I'm scum because I'm scum. Good to know

It's a useless exercise for the follow reason. I'm make it simple so you can follow along.

1. Your Tarp fails when the person claiming isn't fake-claiming.
2. You state your Tarp can also fail when used on 'Competent' scum.

Your Tarp failed. So either I'm not fake-claiming (hint ... this is what happened) or I'm competent scum which I would have been before your Tarp.

So it was a fantastic waste of time and just an excuse for you to spam up the thread. So Bravo.

[A Gaggle of Geese]

MAGNA YOU MEAN...

Traps don't work on comptent players YEAH CLEARLY I WAS TRYING TO SPAM. Fucking wat.

[MagnaofIllusion]

MAGNA YOU MEAN...

Traps don't work on comptent players YEAH CLEARLY I WAS TRYING TO SPAM. Fucking wat.

No ... provided the Mod actually knows what the Hell he is doing and STAYS THE FUCK OUT OF THE THREAD.

Nice try ... sadly you ended up quitting that game and lost ... I've been wondering why.

[A Gaggle of Geese]

Missed my night action and got nightkilled. QUITTER TO THE MAX. FUCKING BLACKLIST ME I'M A SCRUB.

You were getting lynched there regardless, don't flatter yourself Mod just sped the process along. Just proving tarps can work dear. Now sit back like good scum and take your lynch.

[MagnaofIllusion]

You were getting lynched there regardless, don't flatter yourself Mod just sped the process along. Just proving tarps can work dear. Now sit back like good scum and take your lynch.

Continue to believe that Faraday. The only reason anyone jumped on board is the Mod 'counter-claimed' me.

And your logic was fail once again since Booster Gold was the Hero I sent in my PM to Dana